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Calling for new tone on immigration debate.
The United Methodist Portal ^ | Dec 31, 2007 | Arthur McClanahan

Posted on 01/02/2008 5:05:12 PM PST by Condor 63

DES MOINES, Iowa—Members of the Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition are urging presidential candidates of both parties to conduct the debate over immigration policy in a civil manner “that respects human dignity.”

In a Dec. 4 news conference, Connie Ryan Terrell, executive director of The Interfaith Alliance of Iowa, led a group of speakers who gathered to “change the negative, public attitudes and rhetoric which demonize and dehumanize our immigrant friends and neighbors.”

Ms. Terrell said this “destructive attitude has permeated our nation,” making the discussion about immigration a more “complex and difficult debate.”

In a four-week period, more than 3,600 signatures from across the state of Iowa were gathered on a “Creating a Welcoming State” petition, the group said at the news conference.

The petition states, “We pledge ourselves as people of faith and goodwill to stand with our immigrant neighbors who have come to the United States from throughout the world. Recognizing the moral imperative to welcome the stranger in our midst, we commit ourselves to support laws that affirm their dignity, preserve their families, and acknowledge the value of their presence among us.”

(Excerpt) Read more at umportal.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; kumbaiowa; umc
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1 posted on 01/02/2008 5:05:13 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: Condor 63

Connie.......


2 posted on 01/02/2008 5:07:14 PM PST by lookout88 (proud special forces dad.)
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To: Condor 63

Oh Jeez.......


3 posted on 01/02/2008 5:07:32 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: Condor 63
Members of the Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition are urging presidential candidates of both parties to conduct the debate over immigration policy in a civil manner “that respects human dignity.”

In short ! Hell No...

4 posted on 01/02/2008 5:07:57 PM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Condor 63

They can kiss the fattest part of my ass.


5 posted on 01/02/2008 5:08:06 PM PST by steve8714 (Build the fence, ship 'em out, legalize teen workers.)
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To: Condor 63

Yeah, let’s all be nice when talking about our illegal aliens neighbors. Doing that will make it much easier to give them amnesty. (BS!)


6 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:06 PM PST by Bob
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To: Condor 63

You must discuss the issue on our terms!! Then you WILL see it our way.

Your way is HURTFUL! We hate to be shown up as LIARS


7 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:13 PM PST by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Condor 63
Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition

Some version exists in every southwestern state too.

Typically a bunch of leftist atheists who use church support groups to cover their activity and legitimize it.

8 posted on 01/02/2008 5:10:38 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Condor 63

I’ll give you the new tone.

You don’t pay your way. We don’t care to carry you. Go home.

No this isn’t Mexico and it ain’t about to become Mexico anytime soon. Democrats and Republicans alike both agree on that amigos. 80% of us do.

We ain’t racist, we just happen to own the place. If you don’t like our rules leave.

Americans first here. Everyone else take a number.

Simple enough?


9 posted on 01/02/2008 5:11:06 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Condor 63

She may as well call me a racist. It is what she thinks. Fortunately I don’t care what she thinks.


10 posted on 01/02/2008 5:11:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: cripplecreek

The Do-Good-ers and We Know Betters are at it again.


11 posted on 01/02/2008 5:15:40 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number 1 FredHead)
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To: Condor 63

I detest the smell of pontification in the evening.


12 posted on 01/02/2008 5:15:58 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Hey Iowans: the only opinions that matter are the ones in the room voting January 3rd.)
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To: Condor 63
Ms. Terrell said this “destructive attitude has permeated our nation,” making the discussion about immigration a more “complex and difficult debate.”

Baloney. There is nothing "destructive" about following the rule of law. And there is nothing "complex" about wanting illegals to obey the law and immigrate to this country the LEGAL way.

13 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:06 PM PST by Sister_T (No Amnesty for Illegal, Lawbreaking, Criminal INVADERS!)
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To: Condor 63
In short ! Hell No...

I knew this thread would blow gaskets but I had no idea how hard and how fast.

...human dignity...

it might be more profitable to squeeze stones looking for blood.

14 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:11 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: Condor 63

When libs ask for a “new tone” what they really mean is that conservatives should shut up.


15 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:37 PM PST by joebuck
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To: Condor 63
New tone: "NO AMNESTY!!!"

New tone: "BUILD THE FENCE!!!"

Capisce. (Lets confuse 'em more. No it's nor Spanish.)
16 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:40 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Condor 63
DES MOINES, Iowa—Members of the Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition are urging presidential candidates of both parties to conduct the debate over immigration policy in a civil manner “that respects human dignity.”

Yeah, well I demand the same thing.  I'm a citizen of a sovereign nation and I deserve to be treated with human dignity as well.  So end the occupation of our nation and the demand that I help cover tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars worth of freebies to illegal alien interlopers.

Now that immigration is front and center, the bleeding hearts are coming out of the woodwork to claim it isn't fair to take illegal alien interlopers to task.

Bull s--t!

They stay home and I'll respect them.  They come here and they'll be dispised for the jerks they are.

17 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: steve8714

Id like to see the tone revolve around EXTRACTION!!


18 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:58 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Condor 63

“We the Members of the Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition, the people who drape ourselves in the clothe, expect you to submit to our charade of pious plausibility given to the rampaging pillaging class of politicians and their ever increasing raping of your financial resources, the assassination of your character, family name, cultural identity and spiritual foundations, all the while with proper meekness displayed in our presence, in an effort to comfort our pathological tendency to blame ourselves for all that is wrong in this world. Further, we espect you to forgo having your own offspring, so that the financial resources you create through your good efforts can be forcibly taken by gunpoint and redistributed to a criminal illegal underclass that we, the Members of the Iowa Interfaith Immigration Coalition, have a tenuous emotional connection to at this particular moment in time.”


19 posted on 01/02/2008 5:16:59 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Condor 63
Connie Ryan Terrell, executive director of The Interfaith Alliance of Iowa, led a group of speakers who gathered to “change the negative, public attitudes and rhetoric which demonize and dehumanize our immigrant friends and neighbors.”

I got yer "new tone".

20 posted on 01/02/2008 5:17:58 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Condor 63
“that respects human dignity.”

Human dignity starts at home, so why don't you illegals go home.

21 posted on 01/02/2008 5:18:53 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Condor 63

Reminds me of a line from ‘Outlaw Josey Wales’

Wales: ‘So, all these people are your sisters and brothers?’

Priest: ‘They most certainly are!’

Wales: ‘Fine, so you won’t mind them staying at your place for the night. . . .’


22 posted on 01/02/2008 5:18:53 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: All

McCain and Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

How quickly we forget.


23 posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:04 PM PST by Owen
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To: Condor 63

By “new tone” they mean “more tolerance for criminals”. Nice church.


24 posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:18 PM PST by Perchant
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To: the invisib1e hand
it might be more profitable to squeeze stones looking for blood.

Why is it always about the dignity of illegals? Never about the dignity of Americans and how they are tired of being invaded? Doesn't wanting to protect your home and country constitute dignity?

25 posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:40 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: steve8714

LOL


26 posted on 01/02/2008 5:21:49 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Owen
McCain and Comprehensive Immigration Reform. How quickly we forget.

I sure don't.

27 posted on 01/02/2008 5:21:53 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Condor 63

I’m as religious as the next guy. How about discussing the immigration issue under “my terms” as I think it is more humanitarian. In short, let’s not disrespect those obeying the law and arrest those who do violate the law. There, done, very humanitarian.


28 posted on 01/02/2008 5:22:15 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Condor 63
BARF ALERT.

These people are traitors.

What about the thousands of victims killed by illegals since 9/11/01? On our OWN SOIL?

OF COURSE, not a PEEP out of these people about those deaths. We need divvvvvvvversity and compaaaaasion. Sick of it!

29 posted on 01/02/2008 5:23:50 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
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To: raybbr

I want to be a Christian about this entire issue but, having someone say this in the face of a mass invasion is insanity at its worst. (conduct the debate over immigration policy in a civil manner “that respects human dignity“.)
Americans respects human dignity, all the Americans I know are asking the same thing!! Why are you violating our laws, why are you insisting that you have a rigth to violate us. Do you not know you are violating the American People when you violate the laws of America you also violate the people!! Stop the invasion! If you bring a disease and spread the disease you are not human yourself.................Stop the madness NOW!!


30 posted on 01/02/2008 5:28:16 PM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Regulator

“Typically a bunch of leftist atheists who use church support groups to cover their activity and legitimize it.”

I doubt that. It sounds just like Huckabee’s stance on immigration and I haven’t heard anyone call him an atheist. He’s an evangelical Leftist, not an atheist Leftist.


31 posted on 01/02/2008 5:28:44 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: Perchant
Just for clarification it is an interfaith organization of various denominations - not just UMC. I just found the article on the UMC Portal.
32 posted on 01/02/2008 5:28:45 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: ontap

The Methodists are talking to the wrong audience. The ‘human dignity’ issue really needs to be discussed with the Government of Mexico.


33 posted on 01/02/2008 5:28:54 PM PST by AIM-54
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To: Condor 63

By desctructive attitude, they mean any opinion which differs from their own...

George Orwell Support Local number 1345 (”couched in Christian love and understanding”).

Let us start with having the illegals respect us, by respecting our laws, and by not requiring us to pay aid to them when I have never voted to authorize that aid, thus requiring me to pay higher taxes for schools, medical costs, public services, and many other areas.

I am out of cheeks to turn...


34 posted on 01/02/2008 5:29:16 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: ontap

“that respects human dignity.”

where is their’s for ours?


35 posted on 01/02/2008 5:35:52 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Condor 63

Tell these people to “bite me”.


36 posted on 01/02/2008 5:36:49 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Sister_T

see, what im interested in is justice....

howzis....?

you refund all my tax dollars spent on illegals so far then when i get my hands on it ...thru my charity i’ll see that the immigration service gets all the help they need to enforce the good laws i hired the US congress to pass in order to ensure safe, sane, orderly processes leading to fine upstanding patriotic American citizens....

howzat?


37 posted on 01/02/2008 5:38:04 PM PST by flat
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To: edcoil

I can’t see where they respect anything.


38 posted on 01/02/2008 5:38:13 PM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Condor 63

Swell. I suppose the next thing they’ll demand is amnesty because it’s the Christian thing to do.


39 posted on 01/02/2008 5:43:40 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Mojohemi

Why do we never hear these people advocating for an increase in LEGAL immigration? Why not enact social policy through laws which encourage the best and the brightest of other countries to immigrate here and help us build a society which serves the greater good of all the world? Why not, if we need more “ laborers”, create rules which bring us, as future brothers and citizens, those who want to be “Americans”?


40 posted on 01/02/2008 5:48:10 PM PST by Gideons Trumpet
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To: Condor 63; gubamyster; AuntB; freekitty; ontap; steve8714; Bob; chesley; Regulator; RKV; ...
Go ahead and e-mail them

email tiaiowa@dwx.com

41 posted on 01/02/2008 5:52:51 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Condor 63
New Tone.

Lets give them new tone by stapling whizz whistles to each of their rectal sphincters, thats the new tone they need!

42 posted on 01/02/2008 5:56:42 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: RinaseaofDs

Are you sure that line isn’t from High Plains Drifter? I don’t recall a Preacher in Josey Wales but I do remember one from HPD. It’s a good line anyway.


43 posted on 01/02/2008 5:56:53 PM PST by joebuck
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To: raybbr
I dont think they will care (if we e mail them in anger) and it is not worth my effort, as it is not a good expenditure of my time. They will not "convert" to common sense despite e mails, because they are way past "gone".

On the other hand, getting their TAX EXCEMPT STATUS REVOKED or something like that WILL get their attention! And would be worth the time and effort.

44 posted on 01/02/2008 5:57:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
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To: JerseyHighlander

I’d love to send them an email of your post. Do you mind?


45 posted on 01/02/2008 6:01:11 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: raybbr

I haven’t read the article yet, I can hardly wait....

I hope it suggests tar and feathers for certain bureaucrats. Several of them are running for president.

I can still dream.


46 posted on 01/02/2008 6:02:15 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Condor 63; gubamyster
"During that conversation, representatives of the Obama campaign pledged to stop using the term “illegal aliens” and to examine their literature and remove offensive language."

The lefties are going to destroy this country!

47 posted on 01/02/2008 6:03:23 PM PST by TheLion
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To: abigailsmybaby

Bit of a run on sentence, but was just a rant. Clean it up a bit and it’s ready to be sent out.


48 posted on 01/02/2008 6:06:34 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: AuntB
I hope it suggests tar and feathers for certain bureaucrats. Several of them are running for president.

LOL I'll get the tar.

49 posted on 01/02/2008 6:06:40 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: TheLion
The lefties are going to destroy this country!

Only if they don't destroy themselves first....

Which is a real possibility.

50 posted on 01/02/2008 6:08:21 PM PST by Condor 63
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