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Muslim "honor" killing in Dallas
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Posted on 01/02/2008 9:39:35 PM PST by gop4lyf

Father May Have Killed Daughters For 'Honor' Last Edited: Wednesday, 02 Jan 2008, 8:21 PM CST Created: Wednesday, 02 Jan 2008, 7:02 AM CST

RVING, Texas -- A Dallas-area father may have shot his two teenage daughters to death because their Westernized clothes and behavior brought him shame, family members say.

Police are still looking for 50-year-old Yaser Said of Lewisville. Tuesday night they found his abandonded taxicab parked near an Irving hotel with his two daughters murdered in the back seat.

Investigators say either Sarah Yaser Said, 17, or Amina Yaser Said, 18, called 911 around 7:30 p.m., saying she had been shot, but could not identify her location. Police were able to trace the call to a general location, but found nothing.

An hour later, someone reported a suspicious vehicle near the Omni Mandalay hotel in Las Colinas, which turned out to be the taxi.

FOX 4 spoke with two of Said's family members who want to remain anonymous. They say Sarah and Amina dressed in Western clothes and listened to pop music. They described Said as angry with his daughters for not acting like proper Muslim girls.

Though police have not named the motive, in some Muslim countries fathers kill their children if they feel their honor has been ruined.

But local Islamic leaders condemn the practice, according to a member of the Islamic Society of North America.

"It has a lot to do with the culture, and nothing to do with the faith," said Azhar Aziz of the ISNA. He admits that American popular culture often clashes with Islamic values, and says local leaders have campaigned against violence it sometimes spawns.

"The right way to address this issue is to educate people, to talk to people," said Aziz. "But to take the law into your own hands is not justified at all."

American clothes, music, MySpace pages-- all of these can cause conflict between parents who want to maintain values and children who want to fit in with friends.

Said was described by neighbors as a quiet man from Egypt. They were stunned to learn police had a capital murder arrest warrant in his name.

Police thought he was hiding in his house in Lewisville on Wednesday morning, and swarms of officers in SWAT uniforms surrounded the place. After bombing the place with tear gas and having snipers on alert for about five hours, officers discovered the house was empty.

Yaser Abdel Said is 6' 2", about 180 pounds, wearing a black turtleneck, brown coat and tan pants. Police say he's armed with a handgun and should be considered extremely dangerous.

The mother and brother of the two girls were apparently not involved, and were uninjured, police say.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: azharaziz; honorkilling; honorkillings; islam; isna; muslim; religionofpeace
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The news report after the Fiesta Bowl game once again spread the lie that "This is not accepted by most muslims around the world."

Until the world actually wakes up this will continue, with greater and greater frequency. They makes apologies and blame this on a misguided culture, not the cult thats is islam. And people say that all cultures are equal.

1 posted on 01/02/2008 9:39:37 PM PST by gop4lyf
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To: gop4lyf
A Dallas-area father may have shot his two teenage daughters to death because their Westernized clothes and behavior brought him shame

Of course, murdering your daughters and hiding from authorities bring no shame.

2 posted on 01/02/2008 9:41:50 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

actually, allowing them to live would have brought shame upon him. that is how twisted and perverse that religion is. as for him hiding, well, he’s just a massive p——.


3 posted on 01/02/2008 9:44:30 PM PST by thefactor
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To: gop4lyf

The right way to stop this is for Muslims to move back to a Muslim country. Then their children will not attempt to become Americanized.


4 posted on 01/02/2008 9:44:56 PM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: gop4lyf
American clothes, music, MySpace pages-- all of these can cause conflict between parents who want to maintain values and children who want to fit in with friends.

Teenage girls liking clothes, music, and MySpace? Is there anything worse?

These are totally grounds for killing them.

< /sarc>

5 posted on 01/02/2008 9:45:15 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: gop4lyf

The right way to stop this is for Muslims to move back to a Muslim country. Then their children will not attempt to become Americanized.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 9:46:28 PM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: SIDENET

these ignorant primitive towelheads...why did he bring his daughters to America? They actually try to assimilate into our society by adopting America’s culture and dress, and daddy kills them...then goes into hiding like the coward he is, as are ALL muslims who find it convenient to kill unarmed innocent people as often as possible....the religion of pieces....pieces of filth


7 posted on 01/02/2008 9:46:28 PM PST by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: gop4lyf

At least Texas knows how to hold people responsible for murder.


8 posted on 01/02/2008 9:46:51 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: SIDENET

Imagine the wrath of allah (pigs be upon him) if they wanted to go to a Hannah Montana concert!


9 posted on 01/02/2008 9:47:32 PM PST by gop4lyf
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To: SIDENET

This kind of thing may be excused in savage uncivilized locations like London or Oxford, but it just won’t be tolerated in Texas!


10 posted on 01/02/2008 9:48:11 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
daddy kills them...then goes into hiding like the coward he is

Yeah, what gets me is that these types of murders are referred to as "honor killings".

The crowd that goes for this stuff wouldn't know what honor was if it bit them on the ass.

What honorless swine.

11 posted on 01/02/2008 9:52:17 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: glorgau

The shocking thing here is that this Muslim thought he could come here to raise an Islamic family!

I really think that America is attracting the extreme Muslims. There are girls in Iran who are risking their lives NOT to live like Muslims, and there are people here in America who are killing to live like Muslims.

WTF is going on?!?!


12 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:01 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Dustbunny
The right way to stop this is for Muslims to move back to a Muslim country. Then their children will not attempt to become Americanized.

Oh yeah? They are seriously having that "problem" in many Muslim countries, as kids get ahold of various bits of Western culture through various means. They control TV, Internet, printed works, etc., but it still slips through.

They also sometimes let them come to the West to study, and the girls don't want to come back.

13 posted on 01/02/2008 10:01:15 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
these ignorant primitive towelheads

It has been shown that what moose limbs wear around their heads are not towels but little sheets. Please do not call them "towelheads". The correct term is "little sheet heads".

14 posted on 01/02/2008 10:03:18 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck is the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aren't going.)
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To: gop4lyf

Religion of honor, religion of peace...


15 posted on 01/02/2008 10:05:00 PM PST by Zeon Cowboy (Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW! // Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: antiRepublicrat; yorkie; TigersEye
They also sometimes let them come to the West to study, and the girls don't want to come back.

I don't blame them..I wouldn't want to go back & live like they are forced to either. We shouldn't allow them here if we are going to corrupt them & they are going to end up dead.

16 posted on 01/02/2008 10:05:43 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: gop4lyf

Coming soon to an America near you....


17 posted on 01/02/2008 10:05:58 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: gop4lyf
Local Islamic leaders condemn the practice...

when talking in English to American press. In Arabic they are promoting it.

18 posted on 01/02/2008 10:09:34 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

you mean “go” back right?


19 posted on 01/02/2008 10:10:09 PM PST by robomatik
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To: gop4lyf

I suspect the gentleman has already departed on an extended leave-of-absence to somewhere around The Holy land.


20 posted on 01/02/2008 10:11:06 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: gop4lyf
The mother and brother of the two girls were apparently not involved,

If the brother is over 10 he may well have been in on it. Mm may have agreed to it or suggested it.

21 posted on 01/02/2008 10:13:03 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Dustbunny

I think their motive for moving here is to attempt to spread Islam, not to assimilate.


22 posted on 01/02/2008 10:17:01 PM PST by KittyKares (.)
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To: gop4lyf
They say Sarah and Amina dressed in Western clothes and listened to pop music. They described Said as angry with his daughters for not acting like proper Muslim girls.

Why did he come to America if he didn't want his daughters to be American? I hope they execute him and bury him in a pig skin!! LOL

23 posted on 01/02/2008 10:17:30 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: gop4lyf

He is busted it if he convict Texas has that little thing called death penalty


24 posted on 01/02/2008 10:18:06 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: gop4lyf

Muslims are honorable people.

They don’t want their daughters dressing as they please and prefer obedient submissiveness from their women because muslim culture is an honorable one.

Disobedience to the will of the family can lead a father to take his two unarmed daughter (teenage girls) to a remote area and shoot them to death. An honorable feat.

There is so much honor associated with this crime that the father is now in hiding, for fear that the rest of us dishonorable rogues might contaminate the fresh glory and honor from his slaying his family members with our music and dress.

He should come out of hiding! He should proclaim to all the world with the blood of his daughters on his hands, “I killed my daughters!!! I am an honorable man!!!”

I should like to see the response he gets.


25 posted on 01/02/2008 10:21:32 PM PST by Live free or die (The stupidity and cowardice of your enemies does you greater honor than their honesty or courage.)
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To: KittyKares
I think their motive for moving here is to attempt to spread Islam, not to assimilate.

Ditto to that !!!

26 posted on 01/02/2008 10:22:38 PM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: gop4lyf

Hmm, he dumped his cab not too far from DFW airport.


27 posted on 01/02/2008 10:24:57 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: arthurus

Actually, revenge against the mother may have been part of the reason for the father killing his daughters. In Texas, the mother would have probably homeschooled the girls rather than send them to public school if she didn’t approve of Western mores. In this case, the family appears to have been Westernized, so it is highly likely that the man disapproves of his wife’s tacit approval of his daughter’s behavior.


28 posted on 01/02/2008 10:24:57 PM PST by dandelion
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To: gop4lyf
"The right way to address this issue is to educate people, to talk to people," said Aziz. "But to take the law into your own hands is not justified at all."

That statement is a bit ambiguous. I've been trying, without much success, to parse the meaning of his words. Is he actually saying that the man killing his own daughters was "taking the law into his own hands"? If so, then what 'law' might that be? It certainly wouldn't be anything recognizable as an American law...

29 posted on 01/02/2008 10:26:26 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: SIDENET

There was a case some years ago where the FBI, listening on a wiretap for other reasons, heard a father stabbing his daughter to death for “honor” reasons.


30 posted on 01/02/2008 10:27:28 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: The Electrician

Good point. I glossed over that.


31 posted on 01/02/2008 10:28:24 PM PST by KittyKares (.)
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To: gop4lyf
....because their Westernized clothes and behavior brought him shame,

Imagine that, teenage girls wearing western clothes in ....the west, of all places!

32 posted on 01/02/2008 10:31:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: gop4lyf
Those poor girls. Local rag's update.
33 posted on 01/02/2008 10:36:52 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

I agree Muslms are subhuman pieces of trash. The Quran is useful only for toilet paper.


34 posted on 01/02/2008 10:43:26 PM PST by SALChamps03
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I fear that by now, this guy is gone: he’s in Cairo, Karachi, London or some other third world Muslim hellhole. Unless of course the cops had the presence of mind to alert ICE and police authorities at airports and border crossings. I hope they didn’t expend all their mental energy on the Rambo-like siege of an empty house.
The Islamic society rep appears to suggest that the cold blooded murder of two innocent girls falls under the category of “taking the law into your own hands.” This tells us all we need to know about Muslim culture.
35 posted on 01/02/2008 10:44:47 PM PST by Godwin1 (merican restaurant.)
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To: gop4lyf

The Christian churches and Jewish Synagogues of every city that has a large Muslim population should adopt and advertise a sanctuary policy to give Muslim girls and wives a safe haven from abusive male fanatics.


36 posted on 01/02/2008 10:57:13 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: Zeon Cowboy
Religion of honor, religion of peace...

Religion of Perpetual Outrage..

37 posted on 01/02/2008 10:58:42 PM PST by Wil H
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To: 1066AD
The only reason the FBI happened to be listening was because the “father” was a Palestinian terrorist sympathizer who was sending money to terrorist organizations in Palestine. Money he had made from his illegal activities, such as stolen cigarettes, sale of stolen goods, etc. His only reason for coming to America: There are so many ways to make money-—illegally! I’m still trying to understand why he was allowed to come here in the first place.
38 posted on 01/02/2008 10:59:48 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.....for without victory there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: pandoraou812
"It has a lot to do with the culture, and nothing to do with the faith," said Azhar Aziz of the ISNA.

He admits that American popular culture often clashes with Islamic values, and says local leaders have campaigned against violence it sometimes spawns.

Well, which is it? The culture or the faith? His statements seem self-opposed to me.

39 posted on 01/02/2008 11:05:18 PM PST by TigersEye (In my heart is a wellspring of sorrow. My joy is in seeing the emptiness of it.)
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To: singfreedom; pandoraou812
I’m still trying to understand why he was allowed to come here in the first place.

Maybe he just came here accross our open border, as millions before him have.

40 posted on 01/02/2008 11:10:41 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

Just shaking my head again ...


41 posted on 01/02/2008 11:20:49 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: TigersEye; yorkie
Seems very easy to me. Stay in their backward countries where its normal to be a savage. They can't have it both ways. Either come here & adapt or stay where this bs is the normal way of life. I think they're here for a number of reasons & money tops the list.

We need to get the message out strong & perfectly clear, We will not allow these honor killings & we will take them very seriously. Enough is enough with the Muslims IMHO. I am sick of "their ways & demands". Either be American & adapt or stay the h=ll out.

As for Azhar Aziz of the ISNA, he is just a tool. shaking my head again.

42 posted on 01/02/2008 11:27:41 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast

Liberals must love this. An end to the theory
of “multiculturalism”.


43 posted on 01/02/2008 11:44:20 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: gop4lyf

All of you Michael Savage supporters need to
know that he said ,today, that Islam may have a point
against the decadence of western excess.


44 posted on 01/02/2008 11:49:25 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: pandoraou812

Pandy, your head’s gonna fall off, if you keep shaking it like that! LOL


45 posted on 01/02/2008 11:59:52 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie

I know! One day its just going to fall off. I have to stop it asap lmao! But it keeps me from posting stuff I can’t post...


46 posted on 01/03/2008 12:02:33 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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To: pandoraou812

What happened to America.......I never read anything this crazy before 9/11.........Islam has infested the country and the federal govenment shoulders the blame.

The federal government shoulders the blame for the invasion from Mexico.

Taxpayers continue to provide funds so the politicians can continue to destroy the homeland.


47 posted on 01/03/2008 3:04:32 AM PST by Mojohemi
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To: Romneyfor President2008

“I really think America is attracting the extreme Muslims.”

You sir have nailed it! Proclaim it!

(There aren’t any footbaths in the Baghdad airport.)

This is a paradox and it’s true. Thoughts, anyone?


48 posted on 01/03/2008 3:11:56 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: gop4lyf

Yes, while the father was working hard and HONORABLY to earn money to send back to palestine or crazemuslimistan to fund suicide bombers , his shameless daughters were spending money on clothes! The shame.....

as many of you others have said, WAKE UP AMERICA!


49 posted on 01/03/2008 4:08:32 AM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: elcid1970
Because too many of the "elite" in this country have openly accepted living as dhimmi.

"For centuries dhimmi communities in the Islamic world learned to live in peace with their Muslim overlords by acquiescing to their subservience. Some even actively identified with the dominant class, and became strenuous advocates for it."

Dhimmitude.

50 posted on 01/03/2008 4:46:20 AM PST by PogySailor (Murtha'd: To be attacked by a corrupt politician for doing your job.)
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