Posted on 01/03/2008 8:43:55 AM PST by Lorianne
Female clit removal is NOT circumcision. It is mutilation.
Male circumcision is no big deal except to obsessive-compulsive arguing-for-the-sake-of-arguing types.
Such is the awful and precarious state we find ourselves in with Political Correctness.
OH... this is so wrong!
But we've seen a lot of people equating FGM with male circumcision. That completely cheapens the discussion and allows proponents of FGM to make cultural comparisons.
Why do people feel the need to even mention male circumcision on a thread like this?
I would think something like say... I dunno castration would make alot more sense comparison wise.
To be more graphic, after the surgery these girls are “sewn together” so there is but a little hole for urine and blood to pass through. Then, on the wedding night, the groom is given a single edge razor blade to “open” his bride up. Has to have constant sex so she doesn’t grow back together.
Sounds like heaven on earth, doesn’t it??
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071008102334.htm
Except you would be wrong. Castration would be the analog to removal of the ovaries.
Or the Female Genital Alteration types.
They make it sound like a girl's going to the tailor to have a hem fixed.
"You just relax miss, we'll have your clitoris let out a bit here....."
(I know, it isn't funny. But you just have to laugh at the linguistic contortions some people have to go through to make it sound less heinous.)
Once you lose your...you know...
you don’t....you know...
kind of like when you lose your clitoris when you’re a female. It’s just not the same as before.
On the other hand, you can go at it ALL day long without ovaries.
Think....pleasure/pain/orgasm and not function so much.
Parting gifts back stage to your right...;)
Thus, our modern health care and sanitation practices may account not only for the lack of a need for an appendix in our society, but also for much of the problems caused by the appendix in our society."
Which negates the "it's there for a reason" argument.
No wisdom teeth rebuttal?
Wrong.
And since we vaccinate for chicken pox, you could make the argument that we do "(g)ive 'em chicken pox" when they're young.
The vaccine is not mandatory, nor should it be. I do not vaccinate my children against chicken pox, and my pediatrician agrees with me. If you get vaccinated, that is no guarantee that you won't get cp anyway. In addition to that, you have to have boosters on the chicken pox vaccine, and there is no clear cut decision on how often that should be. So, say you forget your cp booster, and you get cp while pregnant, then your baby has problems.
You are talking outta yer butt on these two. Sorry, but you are factually wrong on both statements.
BTW, no where did I ever say that FGM and circumcision were the same, nor did I say that we are just as bad.
Sorry, as a mother, seeing my newborn shrieking over an unnecessary procedure IS most certainly a big deal.
Because they are both procedures involving sexual organs as directed by religion.
OMG, you are such a tool, you know that????
NO ONE ON THIS THREAD, OR ANY OTHER I AM QUITE SURE ON FR, HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING OF THE SORT.
You are so incredibly dense.
You've gone off the reservation, I'm afraid. Are there adults that are confronted with the choice of whether to get chicken pox? Are there adults that wrestle with such a decision?
As noted on the above thread, though, there are adults that wrestle with the decision of whether to get circumcised. My response was simply to point out that personal biases often play a role in circumcision arguments, whether the person is or is not circumcised.
I suppose that the position you're trying to argue, though unrelated to my post (a common theme of yours on this thread, I've noticed) is that we because don't necessarily insulate child from adult maladies like chicken pox, we shouldn't do the same for circumcision, which, done as an adult, would require an extremely painful procedure.
If this is indeed your argument (I may have admittedly misconstrued it--you are not precisely clear), my response to this is there are indeed some parents who send their children to "chicken pox parties" in an effort to allow the disease to work its course at any early age. I'm not necessarily in favor of such a course of action, and anyhow, such a debate is well beyond the scope of this thread.
I wasn't initially going to say anything, but since you've posted to me, I was curious:
When you said this to your husband: I have three girls, but I told my hubby I would not circumcise a boy, did he reply "I didn't ask?"
just a little nip/tuck
take a little off the top
and the sides
I want to look good for my close up
Speaking of dense. This is what I said:
They make it sound like a girl's going to the tailor to have a hem fixed.
I didn't say someone said it, I said it SOUNDED like it.
Reading comprehension 101.
I said that in response to someone trying to mitigate the horrors of Female Genital Mutilation by calling it the less-heinous sounding "alteration". Which, of course, SOUNDS like a trip to the tailor.
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