Skip to comments.Kosovo train-wreck warnings
Posted on 01/03/2008 9:12:28 AM PST by Bokababe
It is expected that early on in 2008, probably February, the United Nations-supervised Albanian Muslim Administration of the Serbian province of Kosovo will make a unilateral declaration of independence (UDI).
The United States has said it is prepared to recognize Kosovo, despite the objections of the Serbian government and more importantly, despite the fact that Russia, a key ally of Serbia, does not want Kosovo independence.
While unclear, it is likely a number of European countries starting with the United Kingdom, France and Germany will follow Washington's lead. Several other countries, notably Spain, Cyprus, Romania, Slovakia and Greece say they will not recognize Kosovo's UDI. The UDI would be undertaken without approval from the U.N. Security Council because of the vigorous objection of Russia and China, who claim no sovereign state's territory can be detached without its consent. Further, as pointed out by George Friedman in his Stratfor article, there was an absolute consensus that post-World War II borders of Europe were sacrosanct. Therefore, no borders would shift.....
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That is because we made this so easy for the Russians. The Russians just waited until we screwed up six ways from Sunday, dug in defending it, and then they shined a spotlight on it.
Ironically, all that the Bush Administration has to do to get us out of this, is reevaluate our Clintonian position --which he should have done in the first place. But instead Bush is arrogantly trying to pretend that "Kosovo independence is the right thing to do". It's like we would rather shoot ourselves in the foot than admit that the US once screwed up and long run, lots of people-- including our guys-- are going to die over this if Bush doesn't wake up!
Funny how nobody has asked Hillary whether she was involved (and supported) the “Clinton-Lied-People-Died” Wag-the-Dog 78-day attack in Belgrade, which ultimately brought the Kosovo mess to where it is now.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. This is the kind of STUPID diplomacy the State Department loves. But where the hell is Bush?
This is a DELIBERATE PROVOCATION which invites the Albanian terrorists to break international law and declare independence. It is an INVITATION for them to do it.
Bush is saying, "Do it, break international law, violate every precedent of justice, and we will RECOGNIZE you." How dumb can you get?
Clinton did it for his share of the Albanian drug money. They doubled their heroin smuggling into Europe after he handed them the province. Also, he seems to love Muslim terrorists. But why is Bush doing it?
Hillary thinks that Kosovo was "a screaming success" and openly advocates it culminating in Kosovo independence.
What some Americans don't realize is that, not only has our behavior in the Balkans broken every rule of Constitutional and international law, if allowed to continue it will set the precedent for our own politicians to say, "there aren't any rules for what we can do. We do what we want."
Getting his watch stolen -- again!
During the 2000 Presidential Debates, GWB stated that our policy in Kosovo was something with which he agreed whole-heartedly with Clinton. I decided right then and there that I would not vote for GWB, as he was no better than a Dem. He tried to warn us of the shakiness of his "conservative" credentials way back then, but so many conservative voters just refused to believe it. Today, there are still a handful of die-hards that refuse to believe it.
By the way, Kosovo all by itself should prove to anyone, even without the results in Iraq, that our government is not serious about stopping the spread of Islam, and is not fighting a war against the people that attacked us on 9/11.
Only one candidate for president today agrees that we should not be involved in pushing Islamism on the Balkans, and that is Ron Paul. That's just the facts, man!
I think the Russians have already said they will recognize California’s independence once the illegals have taken over.
There is one simple solution for Bush. Just tell everybody that if they declare independence, the U.S. is leaving and the beds will be made and the fridges stocked for the Russians who will replace us. That’s all.
the US has about 1600 troops in kosovo. i´m shure it would hurt if they leave (by the way they do not leave) but this wound not prevent kosovo from declare it´s independence. there are about 19.000 european soldiers in kosovo and 2 battle groups on stand by.
Sorry, but recent history has shown the European troops would not be effective against either the KLA or Serbia’s army if it would come down to a shooting war. Also, would the EU troops really want to get in the way on the ground rather than just bombing from the air?
Or perhaps you'd rather we shed American lives to further the cause of Islamists' expansion into Europe? And these are Islamists who cannot support themselves because they have no economy other than sexual slaving, drugs, and illegal weapons trading (including those used to attack the US Embassy in Greece), so the Kosovo Albanians will be sucking off the American taxpayer teat for many decades while they plot to take over parts of Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro and the rest of Southern Serbia with the same strategy that worked so well for them in Kosovo.
Unfortunately, those are the alternatives we have left ourselves with. We've painted ourselves into a corner -- and it really, really, really sucks.
Sorry, but recent history has shown the European troops would not be effective against either the KLA or Serbias army if it would come down to a shooting war. Also, would the EU troops really want to get in the way on the ground rather than just bombing from the air?
It’s a matter of willingness to fight. The KLA wants the territory, Serbia believes that Kosovo is it’s cultural heartland. The European soldiers don’t have a reason to fight nor do they for the most part have actual combat experience as the other parties do. It’s not a matter of them being European, it’s a matter of motivation.
Also, as regards air superiority, this did the US no good until civilian targets were bombed. Would the European public support bombing civilian targets to help the Albanian mafia? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this.
So I guess we’re going to start bombing Arizona soon, since those racist genocidal Arizonans are ethnicly cleansing the poor invading Mexicans.
If Euroweenies support bombing Serbia again, then they better start bombing France.
I don’t see any big difference between Muzzie invaders snatching a province of Serbia and Muzzies snatching a few suburbs of Paris.
The precedent of “You Snatch It You Keep It” has already been made. A second attack on Serbia will codify it in international relations.
And Bush is either an idiot or a partner with the Clintons.
sorry but what do you mean by “it´s a matter of willingness to fight? do your soldiers have a special willingness to fight in iraq for example? and if so what for they are willing to fight? this are professional soldiers. it´s their job to fullfill their duty in several parts of this world. so i don´t think it´s a question of willingness or not. it´s their job. no one forced them to join the military. and for combat experience. i guess before the iraq and afgansitan war started most of your troops did not have combat experience too. but still they did not preform bad. or did they? and NO european public would not support bombing civilan targets. but why should europe bomb targets in kosovo or serbia. the troops are allready there. the other side would have to attack our troops. not the other way around. and serbian air force for example is no match for a combinded european army.
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