Posted on 01/04/2008 5:07:51 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
And so it begins.
We wanted exciting, we got exciting.
As this is written, late on the night of the caucuses, the outlines of the decisions seem clear: Barack Obama won.
Hillary Clinton, the inevitable, the avatar of the machine, lost.
It's huge. Even though people have been talking about this possibility for six weeks now, it's still huge. She had the money, she had the organization, the party's stars, she had Elvis behind her, and the Clinton name in a base that loved Bill. And she lost. There are always a lot of reasons for a loss, but the Ur reason in this case, the thing it all comes down to? There's something about her that makes you look, watch, think, look again, weigh and say: No.
She started out way ahead, met everyone, and lost.....[snip]
[snip]....My sense is that Mr. Huckabee's good supporters deserve a better leader.
His next problem may be not so much New Hampshire as Ed Rollins, the Reagan White House political aide who came in a week ago to manage his campaign. Mr. Rollins began his tenure announcing to respectful young reporters that he--"the grizzled veteran," the "old battler"--would like to sink to his knees and "shoot Romney in the groin" and "punch his teeth out." Such class is of course always welcome on the trail, but one senses the verbal ante will constantly be upped, and I'm not sure that will work well for Mr. Huckabee. Self inflated dirigibles, especially unmoored ones, can cast shadows on parades.
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I want her to win the democrat primaries.
Conservatives can easily beat her.
People are stupid. They'll easily elect the first black president.
Obama will be harder to beat.
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Self inflated dirigibles, especially unmoored ones, can cast shadows on parades.
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What could she possibly mean by that!
I have said this before but this woman is TOO CEREBRAL. Her use of language is so-o-o creative it makes me cringe.
Well, it was nice to see Hilliam Jefferson Rodham Clinton lose in their third Iowa Caucus, but the real question is:
Will ANY of the current candidates (from either criminal syndicate... I mean political party) actually “support and defend the Constitution” if they are elected President of the UNited States of America?
The 2008 “crop” certainly apperas, to me at any rate, to be THE WORST batch of presidential contenders this country has fielded in my lifetime (which started during the Johnson administration).
He might do well in polling, but he'll lose at the polls. Hes an out and out socialist.
Agreed. Obama sounds good superficially, if you look no deeper .. and many easily-led Americans will not, since the alphabet media will fawn all over him and puff him up just like they did the Clintons.
If she is saying Rollins is too nasty, maybe, but much of the so called outbursts are calculated. Huckabee must have someone to take the lowroad as he must always appear to take the high road.
If you saw Obama’s victory speech last night, you would be tempted to send a donation to Hillary this morning. He is a TERRIFIC orator and would be much harder to defeat than Hillary, with all her baggage. And that includes her HINO. Think of it...67% of the 220,000 Iowa Dem caucus goers voted against her last night. If she weren’t Mrs. Clinton, she would be finished this morning, but the msm will keep propping her up as long as she’s breathing.
You say creative and I say pretentious. Sort of like the writer who uses a really long word where a really short one will do as well.
Yeah, I know. But I’m talking about Peggy Noonan’s writing; it drives me CRAZY!!
THey don't care that he is a socialist. Most people couldn't tell you what one is, anyways.
In fact, they'll be glad to elect him if he promises more milk from the government t!t.
He's black, he's handsome, he's young.
Black is the new . . . black.
Haven't you noticed.
It's cool to be black -- even if your white.
Have you noticed something weird about Obama’s speeches? He never says “how” he is going to do these miraculous bipartisan miracles of cooperation.
If he somehow pulls off being elected President he will be an utter failure and result in a tragedy for this nation.
Perhaps, but he'd still be a lot percent better than Hillary in the White House. I heard him on "Meet the Press" last Sunday with a counter to her forced health care plan. Naturally, Hillary will make it mandatory, by force of government, that people are in the program (and, just as naturally, you'll probably be seeing a doctor named "Mohammad" who graduated from the University of Nairobi medical college). Obama, at least, wants to make health care more afordable and still give Americans a choice.
This is in no way an endorsement. He'd be a complete failure when it comes to foreign policy and we'd be primed for numerous 9-11s. He has stated that he intends to dog OBL to ground (at the risk of a nuclear exchange with Pakistan) IOW, points for bravado, but at the price of pure stupidity.
That's one common point both Obama and Huckabee share so far with the memory of Ronald Reagan; he never came across as mean or unpleasant.
The other good news from this Iowa party is that money was not the deciding factor. That is a good thing for America.
“He is a TERRIFIC orator and would be much harder to defeat than Hillary, with all her baggage.”
I listened to his speech. I agree with you.
He may just be the best orator since Ronald Reagan.
He’s scary.
I’m so hoping for a Clinton/Obama ticket. If he won’t consent to playing second fiddle, he might should stay clear of all planes and parks and hire a great tax attorney.
Exactly. Out of the dem 3, Hillary would have been the easiest to pick off in November.
Why care!?
I'm tired of electing the lesser of two evils. They're still evil (metaphorically)
We need to elect people that truly understand the constitution and long for liberty; people that understand a long-term local & global vision that protects that liberty and saftey of america from all enemies foreign and domestic.
Shouldn't be too difficult, he probably has a key to OBL's crib.
Yikes. The kiss of death from Ms. Noonan. Wonder who she supports?
It’s a fairly direct reference to Ed Rollins, who she knew personally from the Reagan years. Rollins is a egotistical blowhard (self-inflated dirigible) who will harm Huck in the end (shadow on the parade). Although, IMO, Huck will bring the shadows onto his own parade.
I would suggest that this same “sounds good superficially” applies to Huck as well. This too shall pass.
Where in the world did this rumor get started? He may be charismatic, a socialist, a great orator. I don't know - I've never listened to one of his speeches. But handsome? Why does this keep being repeated? He is NOT handsome. Not in any sense of the word. His wife is more handsome than he is. For that matter, his wife is more manly than he is too.
If Obama is handsome, then Huckabee's a hunk. (And he's not.)
Why? Because, despite all of their posing to the contrary, people just won't vote for the black guy. I can think of plenty of Southern Democrats who will find a reason to vote (R) this year. "Obama - bless his heart, nice guy, but I like Fred Thompson because of his stance on blahblahblah.".
It will be fun to watch hypocracy explode the Democrat party.
I hope so. The Huckster is just as bad as the Clintons IMO
Huckabee has a nasty mean streak.
Name your poison?
That is, you know the dems are going to win the general election. As a crossover voter whom do you choose?
1. Richardson
2. Obama
3. Hemlock “Pay it and do not neglect it”.
Agreed, but IMHO, it's better to take her out early and not give her the chance.
Rudy would have stomped her in the 2000 Senate Race; instead, he came down with Prostate Cancer.
In a two party race, Hillary loses, but, all it would take is an idiot like Bloomberg to jump in, and we could have another Clinton presidency.
Better to end her campaign early. And expediently.
Nobody should be afraid of the lightweight Obama. He was always Hillary’s first choice for an opponent because he would be the easist to knock off at the end.
No, I don’t know that the Dems are going to win the election. But I do remember how perfectly sane conservatives went out and stupidly voted for Jimmy Carter in ‘76. Some people, I’m sure, will look at Obama and say, “how could someone who sounds so right be wrong”.
And wanting to believe the blather, they vote for him.
It would be a big mistake.
One word answer, HELL NO! Okay, sorry, two words.
That is the conventional wisdom. I wish Obama well, just long enough to destroy Hillary in this election.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. What a sad time for our country.
PS - Thank you for your service.
I don't know where it comes from. There must be some segment of women that think he is handsome.
I'm a man so I'm not moved by his appearance, but objectively speaking I did not find him repulisve. I assumed women thought him attractive and repeated the rumour.
Ultimately, the "race card" that Obama is playing now will be used against him.
And justifiably so.
Conservatives will be FOOLS if Obama is nominated and they don't subtly play the race issue against him. You do what you must to win - ESPECIALLY since Mr. Obama will himself be playing that very same card.
And before you label me "racist!" (which makes no difference to me), I will admit that I voted for Gary Franks for the House of Representatives, here in Connecticut. Mr. Franks was a black running on the Republican ticket.
But I will not, and would not, vote for a black to be president. Sorry if that offends some here.
- John
Media: "Obama handsome."
Normal Woman: "Obama NOT handsome."
Take a poll. Obama looks nice enough. Certainly not repulsive. But he's no Denzel. No matter how much the media want to paint him as such. Obama is weak. Obama looks like a little boy. Obama has a smooth voice. But his physical appearance is gray. His wife is stronger and more handsome than he is. He's probably a nice dad. An attentive husband. An obedient husband. But he's no Cary Grant.
I asked my wife. Her response, “He is repulsive.”
IMO, polling will overestimate his support by at least 5 %, like it did to Wilder in Va. What you wont tell a pollster, youll act out in the voting box..
While I dont think Obama demagogues much on the race issue,he does pull the cord on the War and other issues. And it still is the only reason he has any viability. Demagoguery in general cuts both ways...
I haven’t heard any women describe Obama as specifically ‘handsome’ but I have heard them call him ‘cute’, ‘sexy’, and ‘good looking’. IOW, it adds up to the same thing. Either that or you’re just splitting hairs.
Obama has a lot of appeal to women. He is good looking. He’s non-threating. He’s for ‘change’. A lot of women think he would tone down the partisanship (can’t we all just get along). I think a lot of women think they could trust him.
Hillary, OTOH, turns off most women (outside the NOW contingent). She’s shrill. She’s confrontational. And, I think, a lot of women still haven’t forgiven her for not kicking Bill out of the house.
Now, the question becomes which GOP candidate does best against Obama? I think the electorate is looking for a ‘change candidate’ who is also non-confrontational.
“Obama will be harder to beat.”
This is the conventional wisdom right now and I don’t necessarily disagree. It will depend on the extent to which the electorate is provided with a clear and honest picture of Obama’s beliefs, philosophies, and leftist policy stances.
If his policies are properly revealed and scrutinized he will lose. If the media can successfully prevent the electorate from learning about his leftism he has a good chance.
JMHO.
Either he hid it pretty well, or found somebody else to blame, or the media just didn't talk about it very much. Perception is reality.
Yesterday, Fox was interviewing two young college kids who both said, "Obama is just like JFK!" Really? Those two 20 year olds remember JFK? Even their parents weren't born yet. JFK is OLD news. Guess that makes Michelle Obama Jackie O? The media is so see-through. Trying to return the country to Camelot.
Here's the spin: Bill Clinton was the First Black President. Barack Obama is the Black JFK.
I'm for FRED. Who needs cute? The strong quiet type is sexier.
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