Skip to comments.Muslim Claims of Accomplishment--What Arab Civilization?
Posted on 01/04/2008 5:22:04 AM PST by SJackson
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Arabs did accomplish a lot...until Islam came along.
You hit the nail on the head.
You mean huge oil money can’t buy you a little respect (even if it has to be invented)?
I’m sure the creative writing staff of Pravda is available for hire for such projects. They will do a bang up job of inventing whatever “facts” you need to get your propaganda across.
Any thoughtful person who knows history and religion would be anti-Islam. Along with Communism, Naziism, and the Black Death, Islam has been responsible for more death and destruction on the face of the planet than just about anything else since the last asteroid impact. Islam was started by predators. It has spread by predation. It has lived off the decaying corpses of the civilizations it has destroyed. It is a vast, ancient sea of corruption, oppression, fanaticism, and ignorance lapping up against the shores of the present, kept alive by the fortuitous accident of living above huge reserves of petroleum.
Genesis 16:12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.".............
History BUMP! Thanks for posting.
The rest of “Islam’s accomplishments” were identical: they were the vestiges of the accomplishments of whatever society Islam had recently subjugated, which normally managed to limp along for 50-100 years after the imposition of Islam. Then true Islamic darkness settled over those societies, as well.
The other thing you must know is that they will never respond to a letter such as this. In fact they will never read it. It is not part of their job description to do so because we all know how "busy" they are.
It’s kind of a shame. Given the advances in mathematics, etc that occurred in the Middle East, it’s a shame that Islam has pretty much squashed the advance of that society.
Just think where they might be had Islam experienced a reformation similar to that of Christianity.
You can group Communism and Naziism together as Socialism.
What I’d like to know is how the Assyrians knew about all the of planets in our solar system and that Saturn had rings, Uranus was blue-green and there was a missing planet. Is this a hoax? Bad interpretation of something else?
Yes, Islam swallowed any hopes of of a continuing Arab legacy. Although, we benefit from some of their discoveries still. What would life be like without Arabic numerals?
Mr. BetBasoo said it perfectly: “Arab/Islamic civilization is not a progressive force, it is a regressive force; it does not give impetus, it retards.”
An Arabist I worked with in the Navy told me once that the word for “change” in Arabic was synonymous with “evil”.
We should never give up the fight against them.
See my post 12.
Islam is just as accomplished as the Borg, but is more self-destructive.
yup. It is unlikely that a reform would ever take place in Islam.
Well they were instrumental in winning the Democrat Iowa Caucus.
lol...I had to teach our Sr. VP of Marketing how to cut n’ paste a line of text.
Weren’t they the ones who taught a Camel to go 7 days without drinking? /sarc
Being successful and productive is not possible for Arabs.... it’s against their religion. They have only anarchy and misery as their legacy.
It is something else. Such information are hints, little teases, that there may have existed far in the past, before the great meltdown at the end of the last ice age, highly developed civilizations.
Around 15,000 years ago, sea level was 500 feet lower than that of today. Archaeologists in India have been discovering sunken cities of stone, with pyramids, offshore of southern coastlines. Their Vedas have hinted at such things but western academics pooh-pooh the idea.
Portolan maps are reputed to show the shorelines that existed 15,000 - 8,000 years ago (pre-inundation). Columbus supposedly possessed one. All this is pretty far out, but the Assyrians weren’t the only ones who knew about the actual configuration of the solar system. So did ancient peoples in Central America.
“Muslim Spain was a perfect example of a flourishing society in which Jews, Christians and Muslims lived in mutual respect and cooperation.”
Muslim Spain was Christian Spain for over 400 years before being conquered by Islamic Armies in the 8th Century. That is the way the Islamic Religion has been historically spread, though military invasion and occupation. Treatment of conquered people has the same goal, the minimizing of other religions and conversion of the indigenous people. Among other rules for non Muslims in Muslim Spain; Christians and Jews could not bear arms — Muslims could; Christians and Jews could not ride horses — Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to get permission to build or fix places or worship — Muslims did not; Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not; Christians could not proselytize — Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters; Christians and Jews had to live under the laws set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law; Christians and Jew’s word in a court of law was not equal to a Muslim’s Word; Christian and Jewish families had to give up a son for conversion and military service in Muslim armies and the most beautiful and largest Christian Churches were converted to Mosques. And the list goes on.
Today, 1300 years later, a Christian or Jew living in an Islamic country will still have to live nearly under these very same laws. I can see why the head of the Philadelphia chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations would want us all to do “our part” to create such a world.
No, it's not a hoax. They learned these things from the Sumerians, who learned it from the Annunaki.
bump for later read.
Actually, Catholic Christianity was very interested in philosophy and science, and just before Islam invaded Spain, Southern Spain was the one bright spot in the Dark Ages. St. Isidore of Seville published his huge compendium of “all human knowledge,” including the work of Aristotle and Classical scientists and philosophers, only decades before the Muslim invasion.
For various reasons, Southern Spain had not been thoroughly conquered in the barbarian invasions. The invaders were Germanic tribes that were mostly Arian Christians. They were similar to Muslims in their rejection of the Trinity and hence, of created nature, and as they spread across Europe, the effect of Arianism and other variants that followed it destroyed much of European/ME Christian culture and unity, particularly among the Byzantine churches. This in turn was one of the factors that made it much easier for Islam to pick up momentum.
The problem with Islam is that it can’t be “reformed.” Reform means that the essence of something is good and all you have to do is get back to that essence; the problem with Islam is that its essence is evil, and in fact Islamic “reform” movements are actually those that seek to root out any moderation or reason and go back to the purity of the vicious, superstitious theocratic political system dreamed up by Mohammed.
bump for posterity......
Mr. BetBasoo confirms it. Islam needs to be eliminated from the earth, as surely as the Nazis and the Soviet Communists (and, soon, the Chicoms).
Thanks for the first laugh of the day!
They were my ancestors, too.
After reaching a zenith in 15th century Moorish Spain, Muslim civilization retreated back to the 7th century and had no Renaissance, Reformation nor Enlightenment. It was the Renaissance, Reformation and Enlightenment that in the west lead to all the things that have advanced our civilization to where it is today.
Before-and-after pics of the Great Pyramid offer a good example of the influence of Arab rule. Before them, it was smooth white limestone all over, the most perfect structure man had ever built. After they skinned it and hacked a hole in the side, searching for loot, it looks like a mountain of perfect rubble.
What's amazing about this is that the Annunaki supposedly created the double helix to create man (the intertwined snakes) and the modern day inventor of the double helix discovered it while taking LSD. And then there's a hypothesis that the Lion at Giza actually had a Lion's head (based on measurements of the body vs. the head) and was altered by the Egyptians. Also, the weathering on the Lion's body is eerily similar to water erosion, which means the date is before 10,000 years ago. For me what's amazing is the fact that the pryamid sank 6 inches since its creation and the angles of the hole relative to astrology match exactly to 12,500 years ago.
Sure, Arabs did accomplish a lot. They ran caravans through the desert, and attacked and pillaged other people’s caravans. There wasn’t much else you could do in that environment.
Then along came Mohammed, an illiterate eccentric from a single-parent family, who hit on the right combination: fanatical religion as a cover for a thriving business of conquest and enslavements.
Considering how sly Arabs can be, it is remarkable how uncreative and uninventive they have been for all these years. One author has noted that the total gross domestic products of all Arab countries (not counting petroleum income) is less that the GDP of tiny Finland. Islamic Arabs are among the worlds most notable underachievers. Where they go, poverty follows.
“”... Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard Corporation, in response to a speech she presented in Minneapolis on September 26, 2001. It is reprinted by permission. Please read and pass it on to others.””
don’t you remember ALL the scatology on PBS etc immediately following 911 ?
aRab contributions /history ?
we went wild.
I told my kids they couldn’t even invent a bobby pin or a Qtip.
cement “shoes” - Ha! That’s funny.
Islam is undergoing its reformation NOW! However, that’s not a good thing. A reformation restores the faith to its core values, and islam’s values are evil. The last 400 years of relative peace with these people were an anomaly; they have always been at war with us, and always will be; until either they or we are destroyed.
And then there’s FGM, the ritualistic mutilation of young girls, a practice that is reported to be on the rise in Britain.
The left and the Islamists have the same first goal -
Destruction of Western Civilization.
Leftists are too short-sighted, however, to realize that they won't be able to replace our culture with a Secular Socialist one because the Islamists will enslave them first.
About just the same, because what the Arabs call "Arabic" numerals, were in fact invented in India. Look it up.
I wouldn’t know about the 12,500-year-old events, but the Hyksos invasion of Egypt was probably by Arab invaders. Pre-Islamic, around the 17th century BC, but it appears they took over a flabby, complacent Egypt without much of a fight.
Eurabia, take note. :(
Thanks for the education... however, I think that using “Arabic” numbers is much simpler than Roman numerals.
Such a reformation would not be possible, as Islam today is the same as the Islam of Mohammed: designed to offer three choices: convert, submit (dhimmitude) or die. The only reformation is conversion, which is a death sentence.
“Among other rules for non Muslims in Muslim Spain; Christians and Jews could not bear arms Muslims could; Christians and Jews could not ride horses Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to get permission to build or fix places or worship Muslims did not; Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not; Christians could not proselytize Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters; Christians and Jews had to live under the laws set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law; Christians and Jews word in a court of law was not equal to a Muslims Word; Christian and Jewish families had to give up a son for conversion and military service in Muslim armies and the most beautiful and largest Christian Churches were converted to Mosques. And the list goes on.”
Just change Muslim to democrat or RINO and you can see why so many of us are concerned about the future.
“Italians! The fun fun people who brought us organized warfare, organized religion, and organized crime.”
My reply.....”What can I say? We gots talents for organization; you gonna disagree?”
ارقام هندي ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ - (Indian numbers - traditional Arabic numbers)