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Posted on 01/04/2008 10:12:27 AM PST by Leisler
Never mind,I don`t remember having to access an existing thread to post an article.
Not a good day for me to read this kind of crapola. Our water pump went out Wednesday night - we only got heat and water back this afternoon.
My thermostat is cranked up, there is a fire going in the wood stove and I have a space heater going in my little attic office.
I’ve been keeping my thermostat at 58 to 60 degrees this winter, and wearing a lot of fleece.
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And most importantly....your wallet.
The article offends me on several levels. The biggest one is that the author seems to think the other provisions mentioned in the first couple of chapters are “reasonable”. Like the water pipes and roof covering color.
They are not. They are fascism.
This particular frog is not being slowly boiled alive. Either this article is a joke, like the Onion articles, or it really IS time to start shooting the Ba$tards.
First it was toilets, then shower heads, light bulbs, and now this?
Seriously, this is becoming an incredibly fascist state. Good news is that with the coming economic collapse, the government will either lose its power (or will) to take on this stuff, or they will be concerned about armed uprising over a myriad of things.
The times they are a changin’.
You might not buy it, but the inside temperature is not a problem, due to my idea of using a two stage furnace. The low stage, the one used to meet the facist temperature code (read cold!) was 80k BTU. That’s the output of the furnace.
The high output, the one to meet my own ‘code’ (because it is me they will call from their shivering beds, not the nazis) is high enough, 120k BTU, to keep the house a comfortable 75 degrees, even at 20 below, if they are willing to pay the heating bill. The furnace automatically goes to high heat if it gets too cold for the lower setting.
The lower level has it’s own furnace, and I managed to sneak in a 75K unit there. Not much resistance from the code guy after we ‘worked through’ the upstairs furnace. Wonder why.
I’m threw this out there after reading a bunch of people post “well they aren’t going to touch MY thermostat”. They have just removed any chance of you touching it.
Building a new home? Better check out the heat system, or you may wake up some night with your new tiny furnce working it’s heart out as the water freezes in the toilet.
BTW, I think you’d like the house. Two 3 car garages, one heated and can be used as a shop........that’s the part that captures the guys. The rest of it matches the luxury of the garages.
See post #69.
In this case, temperature rise is the temperature that the heating unit is able to raise the temperature of the house above the outside air temperature, taking into account (primarily) the amount of heat that is lost due to infiltration, such as window, doors, walls, and ceiling heat loss. That varies by the number of windows, insulation thickness, types of doors, etc. Each of these items must be individually accounted for in order to determine the total amount of heat loss for each floor. It tries to include all the things that allow the heat to escape to the outside. Naturally those are invisible to the naked eye, but are calculated from manufactures specs of all the houses components.
The only outside air that’s purposely introduced to the house is the make-up air for the furnace and water heaters.
In concept, my only objection is the heavy handed way this is being administered. There is very little ‘wiggle room’, and If I hadn’t come up with the two stage furnace idea, and if the temperature hadn’t been what was on that very day, and if I hadn’t had a guy who was sympathetic to all that, someone would be buying a cold house.
Somewhere, someone is doing just that.
It wasn’t the two stage furnace. It was 50 degrees over 40 that I meant it about.
Gotcha!
I like the seasons, and even the cold weather. I came here (Colorado) from Minnesota about 20 years ago. It seems like paradise!
I have always said how racist your rank and file liberal really is.I was born,raised,and have lived/worked my entire life around them and the one and true trait they all share, above all else,is their deeply felt and all abiding hatred for others not of their own group,its one of the reasons they have such a blind hatred of us.When I`ve asked my white democratic coworkers and acquaintances what they think of Obama`s victory,they don`t mince words about there hatred of him, either he`s that N-word,or that rag-head,or both!You should have heard all the vitriol I have,and thats just in one day!A majority have said they would rather stay home than vote for him,the level of visceral hatred I`ve heard is really surprising,and this is from people who often can`t say enough expletives before or after GW`s name.
If I`m right,an Obama primary victory for the democrat candidate for President would drive liberal whites away from the polls in droves,question is,would it be enough to warrant an attempt at raiding their primaries to help him along?As long as our respective candidates,whoever they may be,are winning,a quick primary foray into enemy territory to upset their apple cart could be a risky but strategically significant play.
Since our brains are liquid, chemical things, and we are not that long since caves, I don’t get too upset about us so-called humans. Like, where am I going to go? Can’t get off the planet.
So, do what you think is right, with what info you have at the time, and the person you are the time, and then hang on and enjoy the human circus.
Read The Prince of Darkness by Robert Novack. You’ll see since FDR that Presidents are pretty powerless, by and large.
Leave space for your own life. The space shouldn’t be politicized. Politics isn’t that important to you and yours.
Be happy.
I don’t mind cold; just not 5 months of it. If winter lasted only 6-8 weeks, that’d be fine with me. Snow for Christmas and spring by February. Long enough to keep you appreciating the warm weather.
I’m the author of the American Thinker piece that’s the subject of the thread.
Sorry if you’re offended. I’m an engineer and used to working to codes and standards. The two I mentioned were examples that make engineering sense to me based on my own experience. The swimming pool standard is a codification of good practice - I guess if you REALLY wanted smaller pipes and higher velocities and higher electric consumption you should be able to calculate your own pipe diameters. But you probably won’t - some swimming pool salesman will look at a chart and pick them for you.
The roof color thing might be a bit much - there are aesthetics to consider that are a factor. But I’m a renter and when the house I’m renting needed a new roof I implored the rental agent to get light-colored shingles. But NOOOOO! I wind up with black ones which will make it hotter on summer days and colder on winter nights. Guess I could move but that would take 100 years to payback.
To all - the PCTs will be mandatory under the proposals. The state doesn’t have the rules figured out for who or when the button is pushed (except it won’t be you.) I predict it will be the California Independent System Operator, the state agency that runs the grid that will give the supreme order. Your local utility will just have to follow orders.
I say call your state legislator and ask him if he voted to have the state control your room temperature. I don’t think that the California Energy Commission has statutory authority and I bet politicians won’t stand up and give it to them.
The deeper plan is to get the PCTs into everyone’s home and business. They will be able to do LOTS more than set temperatures eventually. Real time pricing is a prime motivator. Want to bet on whether your electric bill will go UP or go DOWN under real time pricing? Poor folk will find themselves cooking dinner at 10 pm and doing laundry after midnight.
The basic problem is a refusal to build new nuclear power plants. Do that and we don’t need no stinking PCTs.
When we had a freeze in central Florida, the local electric co-op just shut down the power for four hours.
Eezy-peezy.
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