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Posted on 01/04/2008 4:22:53 PM PST by Jay777
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Oh, not for not caring less about Fred's status as an actor. For finally being the first I've seen use the proper term "could['nt]" instead of the improper "could".
Everytime someone writes "I could care less that..." it gets my dander up. What they're effectively saying is, they COULD care less; just the opposite of what they intend to say.
Sorry for the rant. It's a real pet peeve I have.
I hope that such a bill, if passed, would be upheld by the Supreme Court. However, I'm afraid it would hit the wall built around Court decisions by other Court decisionslike PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF SOUTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA, ET AL., v. ROBERT P. CASEY, ET AL, and this odd little comment:
These matters, involving the most intimate and personal choices a person may make in a lifetime, choices central to personal dignity and autonomy, are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. At the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life. Beliefs about these matters could not define the attributes of personhood were they formed under compulsion of the State.
And I don't believe that it would work to immediately end abortion in any State, because it would be set aside like the Partial Birth Abortion ban was, until sent to the SCOTUS. It could start the process to overturn Roe. Or it could force a confrontation that was promised in Casey, where the Court sees an attempt to over-rule prior Court rulings as an attack on the Court itself.
However, it can't be passed until 60 percent of Senators and a majority of the House endorse it. A President can't introduce or make such a bill law.
This Fredhead has naturally been aware of his TV appearances on Law & Order because my wife watches it occasionally. And I know he's been in some movies (I was aware of that when he was still in the Senate), but until someone posted graphics relating to "Hunt For Red October", I couldn't name one. This background was certainly not part of my decision process.
No, I haven't seen anyone star struck on any Fred threads. I have seen comments such as "oh, isn't he the guy who's on tv" or such. That doesn't equate to "star struck" in my book. That simply indicates someone gaining recognition of him.
A lot of silliness has gone on about Fred and us Fredheads. And some rancor. Oh, well. We just show we give as good as we take. But when someone is seen crying about the unfairness of it all, it isn't us. It's the gnats. And that's why we refer to them as such.
Same goes for me. The Swift Vets got my first ever political contribution. This year, Fred Thompson was the first campaign/candidate I ever donated to.
I was listening to my radio after Iowa and the news didn’t mention Thompson’s name at all (WMAL in DC).
In a way it may help Thompson, as the media will be the echo chamber for all the gaffes and missteps the front runners will be making in NH as they beat each other over the head.
The virtual media blackout on Thompson I think will benefit him in the long run, especially if he beats the other candidates to SC and starts capturing hearts and minds without any media interference.
Abortion WILL NEVER be stopped in Washington DC on our current course.
HOWEVER, what if it were passed off to the states? Yes there will be a few, like the east and west coasts, that will still have abortion as the laws come on line. BUT it is very possible that the vast majority of states will ban it, and in the same numbers as would be needed to ratify any Human Life amendmentment. Then what happens? You got it, the ball drops back to DC. How can any sitting congressman or Senator from any state where the PEOPLE have banned abortion not now vote to move forward on a bill.
The power to stop abortion only exists with the people in the many states, it is the ONLY way we will see it end. Looking to DC as we have for 40 years has gotten no where. They are too locked in to the special interests and have to be hit with a 2 by 4.
I think if it goes to the states we could see an end to abortion in the next two decades. If we maintain the status quo our great great grandchildren will still be having this discussion.
It is time to fight smarter not harder. If Dr. Franz and the others at NRTL, who have dedicated their lives and careers to this effort trust Thompson, perhaps we should give benefit of the doubt that the man maybe onto something.
The day he spun FreeRepublic into a 'hate site' is the day I lost the remaining respect I had for the man.
He is, IMHO, a complete buffoon.
Which policies of Hunter and Huckabee will result in abortions becoming illegal in Washington State?
Fred said, at the time, that he didn’t remember ever having seen that form. It is more likely that a staffer filled it out for him. Who knows why. I’m not interested in some anonymous check on a form somewhere. Fred’s votes in the Senate hold a LOT more weight for me, and they were consistently pro-life.
Your memory must be failing you, because those of us who have supported him since the first idea of his entering the race, are not doing so because we were fans of his acting gigs. We've been noting his Senate accomplishments, and his stands on the issues, as noted in his ABC commentaries and his appearances on the Paul Harvey show. I'm not going to say that some are fans of his work in TV and movies, and may be inclined to support him for that, but the vast majority of us are in it because of his IDEAS.
Sure, Huckabee and Hunter support a Human Life Amendment, but until that passes, millions of babies will continue to die. As Fred pointed out last month, even when we had a Republican in the White House, and Republicans controlling the House and Senate, we couldn't get a Human Life Amendment up and running. It is extremely unlikely, given the national attitudes, that we'd get 2/3'ds of both Houses of Congress and 3/4th of the states to pass the HLA. Instead of waiting for that to happen, and allowing babies to continue to die, I'd just as soon support someone who is willing to try another tactic. Fred has said he'd appoint Justices to the Supremes who would be willing to overturn Roe, and send the decision back to the states. That way, individuals will have the chance to voice their opinions, and cast their votes, and the tension created by removing the issue from voters will be diminished.
At that point, pro-lifers in each state can speak directly to their friends and neighbors, and convince them of the need to restrict the procedure, with the idea of eventually outlawing it. But most folks will not go along with outlawing it for any reason, because they'll have compassion for those women who have become pregnant by rape or incest, or those for whom continuing their pregnancies will threaten their lives. Since the numbers of abortions done for those reasons is less than 2% of ALL abortions, allowing those exceptions will still save over 98% of babies, and that's a great start.
Huckabee does not excite me as a candidate, for reasons that have been cited by numerous FReepers countless times, but does support the Human Life Amendment. However, one can make a strong case that this is an excuse to do nothing, given the high support threshold required for a change to the Constitution.
Abortion is an evil sold as a good. The unpleasant imagery, while probably not healthy to dwell upon, is out there for all to see.
That said, if the loophole could be adequately covered - and the much more serious and likely-to-be-exploited "health" (sic) loophole - I am ok with any pragmatic approach that would spare women this experience and save innocent lives. I would predict, moreover, that teen pregnancies would drop in a culture which frowned upon abortion, as did pre-1970 America.
From what I've heard, that's because the Iowa delegates aren't bound by the caucus results and are free to change their mind.
I think Liz Cheney does though, IIRC.
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