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Evangelicals Sent Some Messages to the Repbulicans, but was Anyone Listening?
The Common Voice ^ | January 4, 2008 | Dan Burrell

Posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:25 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

Please allow me to slip on my political commentator hat for a few minutes if you will. At one point in my life, I was content to be known as somewhat of a political "activist" from the religious right point of view. A couple of years ago, I "retired" from that hobby believing that my time would be better spent on ministry than politics. However, my withdrawal from the activism does not mean that I am disinterested in the process whereby we select our leadership.

So, it was with attentiveness I observed the results from the Iowa caucuses last night -- particularly those from the Republican side of the aisle. While I am philosophically independent politically, I'm far more likely to find candidates who identify themselves as Republicans that match the minimum basic requirements for me to want to vote for them. This cycle, I'm thus far extremely underwhelmed-to-disgusted by the choices the Grand Old Party has managed to conjure up for a run at the White House.

But as the results rolled in from Iowa, I do believe we saw something that was quite interesting unfold. Every pundit and their dyslexic cousins noted today that Iowans voted for "change" rather than "experience" this time around, so I'll skip that obvious conclusion. Less noticeable was a message -- or perhaps messages that I believe that evangelicals, values voters, the so-called Religious Right, sent last night and that's what I want to discuss in this article.

Basically, from my perch, I see several messages that someone in the upper echelons of the Republican Party needs to read if they want to have any hope of keeping the White House this year.

Message One -- Social conservativism still matters.

Huckabee is not a fiscal conservative. That's one of the reasons I remain extremely wary of him. But when it comes down to a fiscal conservative/social liberal vs. a social conservative/fiscal moderate --- the evangelical block is going to support the social conservative and by no small margin. If the Rockefeller Republicans prevail and their boy Guiliani (extreme), the "converted" Mormon alternative Romney (moderate) or the maverick McCain (conservative, but viewed as hostile to evangelicals) is given the keys to the nomination, they should not expect the evangelicals to fall into line and pull the GOP levers. Expect them to stay home or go third party -- even for a nutjob like Paul. Prolife, profamily, pro-traditional marriage issues MATTER to these folks and they aren't going to be bought off with deathbed "conversions" and a backseat on the ticket. They are simply not going to compromise on these core philosophical issues. Period. Even if the nominee is Hillary which seems to have been their silent hope, they won't. Nominate Guiliani and watch Obama capture a shockingly significant portion of the evangelical vote.

Message Two -- Compassionate Conservativism has taken root in the evangelical community.

There is a shift going on in evangelical circles. Consider Rick Warren's P.E.A.C.E. initiative and his decision to publicly cowtow with Obama and Bono and others. Think the "Greening of Evangelicals". Consider (alleged) evangelical liberal Tony Campolo's harping on social activism. Those of us who live in the most conservative shadows of evangelicalism may not sense it as much as those who are part of the "new" evangelical wave of the megachurches and the sycophants of blown-dried personalities like Osteen and the Whites, but there is a move leftward when it comes to how many evangelicals view the government's view of helping the "underprivileged" and impoverished. They are not impressed with a culture of big business hard-nosedness that sends jobs overseas, invests in high-profit/low morals industries like porn and booze for the sake of profit, and hyper-inflates CEO salaries while single moms can't put food on the table. They may not understand the consequences of a "nanny state", but they don't like what they see happening either. Thus, a Huckabee message that would translate to bigger government and even higher taxes does not frighten them like it once may have.

Message Three -- Don't take evangelicals for granted.

The Reagan coalition of Country Club Republicans, working class/middle class and religious conservatives worked. But the evangelicals are more loyal to ideals than party affiliation. The Blue-Blood Republican set that summers in the Hamptons can't win without the evangelicals and they know it. The religious right has become very astute at turning out the vote. It's an uncomfortable marriage -- but everyone has a lot at stake in keeping it together. Evangelicals will never write the big checks that the Fortune 500 guys can and most of them wouldn't do it even if they had it -- they'd give it to or through their church instead. But the CEO's and summer-house Republicans can't do what the evangelicals can -- organize, network and get their constituency to the polls on election day in a massive way. For all the talk that the Republican subgroups are heading for divorce, they'd both better be fully cognizant that they may split the sheet, but in doing so, they'll insure that a Democrat ends up laying in the bed. The thought of having Rudolph Guiliani in the White House is as distasteful to many Religious Conservatives as the thought of having James Dobson on the ticket would be to Arlen Spector and Olympia Snow. In their failure to groom or recruit a Reaganesque or even "Bushesque" candidate for this year's election who is both fiscally and socially conservative (with a proven track record, who didn't malign the leadership of a major portion of their constituency ala McCain 2004 and who isn't from some cult where the adherents wear magic underwear and a history of polygamy and racism), they have endangered this delicate alliance and perhaps their hopes of retaining the Presidency.

There are other messages -- some of them perhaps subliminal -- and it is still early in the cycle, but I'll stop with these three. Today, I happened to be in my vehicle that isn't equipped with XM Radio and thus ended up listening to Limbaugh and his local conservative equivalent on AM for a couple of hours as I ran errands. Limbaugh has been spending so much time in Palm Beach in recent years that he now thinks a lot like the establishment Republicans. His local wannabee conservative pundit basically parroted what he was saying. Neither of them got the message as they savaged Huckabee directly and through inuendo. I'm not a particular fan of the former Arkansas Governor myself. But like those in the RNC, even the pundits are missing the point as they attack the mailman without reading the mail.

I don't have a solution for the Republicans any more than I have a candidate that resonates with me. My interest in the spectacle of the primary process actually excites me as I view the dysfunctional dilemma that lies before both parties. Both parties may see their futures tied to who got the message the voters sent to both headquarters first.

One thing is for sure. It's gonna' be interesting!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianvote; elections; evangelicals; huckabee; ia2008
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1 posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:29 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

What’s a Repbulican?


2 posted on 01/05/2008 12:05:24 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Ol' Sparky

I think the people are misinterpreting the Iowa caucus. With the exception of one, there has been no other candidates since 1976 that have won Iowa and have gone on to be the party’s nominee.

And that does include President Ronald Reagan who came in second place in Iowa to George H.W. Bush. Only George W. Bush came in first in Iowa and went on to be the party’s nominee.

Iowa is a Democrat state that has a horrible time selecting Republican Presidential Candidates. But now the conventional wisdom will be on New Hampshire, and Huckabee’s record will become a factor very soon.


3 posted on 01/05/2008 12:06:34 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: writer33

The Huckster has already decreed that any examination of his record will be called “negative campaigning”.


4 posted on 01/05/2008 12:09:00 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Barry Goldwater once said (and I am paraphrasing here, anyone with the actual quote handy, I’d appreciate it) that “the religious are going to ruin the GOP”. Now, I’m more than aware of how Goldwater drifted left for lack of a better term later in his life, but last night I couldn’t help but wonder about Goldwater’s remarks on what we now call the “religious right”...

...did he happen to foresee the day where a very sizable portion of the GOP would simply vote for somebody (like Huckabee) because he’s a preacher?


5 posted on 01/05/2008 12:10:18 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Don't panic, folks. Rush Babies Will Save America.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Then let the negative campagining begin. You can’t run for POTUS without a thorough examination of your record and everything else under the sun.


6 posted on 01/05/2008 12:11:06 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: GOP_Raider

Repeat after me: Single issue voters.

They see Christian and forget about just how bad an overbearing, meddling federal government can be.


7 posted on 01/05/2008 12:12:31 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
So I must be a practical evangelical type. I believe strongly in as little government intervention as possible when it comes to 'compassion'. That is what churches and people's giving is all about. Business is about making money. It is called profit. What is Caesar's is Caesar's brother.

Maybe in the mega churches they need to start teaching economics, business, and politics 101. The churches are not taxed so of course they can get away with dismissing this pragmatic reality and preach idealism until the cows come home. If this person and evangelicals he is writing about are so worried about Mom's being able to put food on the table they better consider what 'compassion' costs in taxes first as one third of what everyone earns ATLEAST is taken out of our paycheck. This is saying they want to increase the money taken out of that Mom's paycheck even more. Go figure on how all that makes sense in the real world. Maybe add accounting classes too.

I am an evangelical. This is why I want as little government in my life. PERIOD. Balance the budget. Maintain our military. Simple tasks. Then get the heck out. Be green all you want on your own. Free country.

8 posted on 01/05/2008 12:14:05 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: writer33

I agree. But it won’t stop the whining. Huck is a crybaby.


9 posted on 01/05/2008 12:14:22 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
The Huckster has already decreed that any examination of his record will be called “negative campaigning”.

If the records of the candidates are going to become off limits to discussion during a campaign, we might as well just put all their names in hat and draw one on election day.

10 posted on 01/05/2008 12:18:03 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: GOP Poet

Oh yeah and the country should maintain the boundaries of our border. Number three. That is about it for this Social and Fiscal conservative. The man who wrote the article is describing Democrat party policies. Bye, bye evangelicals if this is your philosophy, do not let the door hit you in the as-. By the way kiss all the people at the gay church weddings as well with your fellow Dems.


11 posted on 01/05/2008 12:18:46 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Route66
Reminds me of the 92 campaign when Hillary called the examination of the Arkansas education system under the Clintons an assault on the good people of Arkansas.
12 posted on 01/05/2008 12:24:34 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
A vote for Duncan Hunter or Fred could also have been a socially conservative vote. But it also would have been a vote for closed borders, lower taxes, 2nd amendment rights, traditional marriage, and a better choice to kick the raghead head choppers in the teeth. I'm sure the Huckster is a nice man and probably a capable preacher, but we are voting for more than that. Tancredo was right on EVERY issue I ever heard him talk about, but was labeled a one issue candidate. A very important issue, but still only one. He was the first one out, and Hunter and Fred aren't getting much traction.

I've said since the beginning, if Guliani or Mitt is the candidate, most likely enough evangelicals will stay home or vote 3rd party, we will have a Dimwit as president. They don't want Hillary or Obama, but they don't have anyone to vote FOR. If the Repubs want to go back to oblivion, just stick with tax cuts and Wall Street and ignore the social issues. Most Christians can't tell the difference between Guliani and Hillary. We have a different measuring stick. Republicans couldn't win anything until they got fed up with immoral, unpatriotic, paganistic, diversity, claptrap. Then they got traction from people that had some core belief systems. All belief systems are not equal. These "people" are not throw away's. We will be a permanent minority party if the Repubs think killing babies or anal sex is a "moderate" position. The "solid south" turned Republican when they got fed up with flag burning, gun grabbing, baby killing, communist leaning, prayer forbidding, God hating, fag lovers. These blue collar workers weren't changing parties by a tax cut proposal.

If the Repubs think Guliani or Bloomberg is a "good" Republican, their asses will be handed to them. They had better court the social conservatives or they will die a slow mediocre death.

13 posted on 01/05/2008 12:36:20 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Ol' Sparky
Compassionate Conservativism has taken root in the evangelical community.

"Compassionate conservatism" is liberalism. I don't appreciate leftists trying to use government to take my money and meddle in my life, and I won't appreciate evangelicals trying it any better.
14 posted on 01/05/2008 12:38:48 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: GOP_Raider

Here’s the quote:

“Religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy.
They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives.”


15 posted on 01/05/2008 12:40:23 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: MetaThought

Okay, thanks.


16 posted on 01/05/2008 12:41:15 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Don't panic, folks. Rush Babies Will Save America.)
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To: writer33

” You can’t run for POTUS without a thorough examination of your record and everything else under the sun” and no fire in your belly....Sarcasm


17 posted on 01/05/2008 12:42:52 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: writer33

” Repeat after me: Single issue voters “ who have drank the koolaid of Huckaberry


18 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:02 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Nominate Guiliani and watch Obama capture a shockingly significant portion of the evangelical vote.

Can I stop laughing now?

In a real campaign, Barack Hussein Obama will be cut to shreds.

Do you really think there are no cached copies of the websight from his "Afro-centric" church?

Do you think no one will point out that according to all islamic sects, he is islamic, because his father was? You do realize that the penalty for apostasy (conversion to another religion, in this case) in islam is death.

Do you think that each & every facet of his background will not be examined in detail and the many, many islamic ties pointed out?

While many evangelicals consider Romney's Mormonism to be heretical, it is not considered hostile to Christianity. Islam is considered just downright hostile.

Guiliani may be considered a sinner, but there are many biblical leaders who were sinners, but still effective leaders.

Given the choice between Romney's Mormon religion and Obama's faux Christian church (which may be even more heretical than the LDS, once examined) or his likely, or possible, remaining islamic ties, evangelicals will hold their noses and pull the Guiliani or Romney lever.

19 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:18 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Ol' Sparky

HUCKABERRY Koolaid voters


20 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:32 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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