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Transgender woman sues hospital (Catholic-Owned Seton Won't Let Her Get Breast Surgery Eeewww!)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 1/5/08 | Barbara Feder Ostrov

Posted on 01/05/2008 10:01:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

"God made you a man." That's what Charlene Hastings said she was told when she called to inquire about breast enlargement surgery at Seton Medical Center, a Catholic hospital in Daly City. Now the San Franciscan is suing the hospital, claiming officials there discriminated against her because she had a sex-change operation.

Hastings, 57, had already had the major surgery she needed to become a woman. She had chosen a San Francisco plastic surgeon with privileges at Seton to perform the breast augmentation in October 2006. But the surgeon, Dr. Leonard Gray, told her that Seton no longer allowed him to operate on transgender patients, Hastings said. "It's a blatant case of discrimination."

The lawsuit pits the rights of transgendered people against the hospital's rights to operate according to its religious principles.

State law allows religiously affiliated hospitals to refuse to provide abortions, but there is no specific religious exemption allowing hospitals to deny elective surgery to transgender people. Seton is a member of the Daughters of Charity Health System, which operates five Catholic hospitals in California.

"Seton Medical Center provides medically necessary services to all individuals," Nikels said in a prepared statement. "However, the hospital does not perform surgical procedures contrary to Catholic teaching; for example, abortion, direct euthanasia, transgender surgery or any of its related components." The hospital did not comment directly on the lawsuit.

Wertz thinks Seton's policy violates the Unruh Act, a state law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of gender, gender identity or sexual orientation. "There's simply no religious exemption in the Unruh Act," Wertz said.

"This is a civil rights story," he said. "It is about transgender people being able to use businesses and other facilities on an equal basis as other people. If you took out 'transgender' in the lawsuit

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: catholichospitals; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; yuck
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"God made you a man" -- Love it! Right to the point. The next sentence should have been "Now act like one."

There's a pic of "Charlene" in the paper today, but it's not online. Probably a good thing, too. If you haven't hurled after reading the story, the pic would have certainly sent you over the top.

The lawsuit was filed Dec. 21 in San Francisco Superior Court. How do you suppose it will turn out? [purely rhetorical question]

1 posted on 01/05/2008 10:01:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Why is it that it’s the ‘you can’t legislate morality’ liberals who are always trying to use the law to force their values on others? [Rhetorical question]


2 posted on 01/05/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by Spok
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Hastings, 57, had already had the major surgery she needed to become a woman.

Radical cutitoffomy, to be precise.

3 posted on 01/05/2008 10:10:14 AM PST by Sender (Feel like, I feel like a poke chop san'wich)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"It is about transgender people being able to use businesses

I've been waiting for this type of slippery slope with the words again. The same thing that invented words like "Undocumented immigrant."

Trangenderism has nothing to do with this. The item in question is a transsexual.

That's what Charlene Hastings said she was told when she called to inquire about breast enlargement surgery at Seton Medical Center, a Catholic hospital in Daly City.

Cut or not, you are still a dude. And you do not pass. - Sorry.

4 posted on 01/05/2008 10:10:22 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

As opposed to the opposite procedure, addadictomy.


5 posted on 01/05/2008 10:10:42 AM PST by Sender (Feel like, I feel like a poke chop san'wich)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The hospital should simply revoke Dr. Gray’s practicing/affiliation rights. He should no better than even attempt to perform this type of butchery at a Catholic Hospital.


6 posted on 01/05/2008 10:12:13 AM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Sender
"God made you a man Amen to that

cutitoffomy Priceless!

7 posted on 01/05/2008 10:12:48 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It doesn’t matter what these misguided souls do, at the end of their lives they still have the original DNA that they were born with. It would probably be a whole lot better if they tried therapy to accept their birth gender.


8 posted on 01/05/2008 10:13:52 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
She had chosen a San Francisco plastic surgeon with privileges at Seton to perform the breast augmentation in October 2006.

Reporters these days! They don't even tell us which breast the sick man wants augmented.
9 posted on 01/05/2008 10:14:49 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"There's simply no religious exemption in the Unruh Act," Wertz said.

Then that law is abhorrent to the Constitution and should be struck down.

10 posted on 01/05/2008 10:28:15 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

RomneyCare.


11 posted on 01/05/2008 10:34:37 AM PST by Leisler
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Nothing wrong with these "people"....wouldn't you hire them in YOUR business?


12 posted on 01/05/2008 10:34:52 AM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Whatever differences I have in theology with Catholics I cannot deny their good works. Building hospitals in virtually every major city in the world, missions, soup kitchens and every other kind of good work. This is how I know them. And here comes the world, in its most perverted face, to fight the Church in its mission to heal the sick in Jesus' name. The world hates the light. The light convicts them and they seek to extinguish it wherever it is found.

Satan's battle against the bride of Christ is in full force both from without, and more dangerously, from within. The pressure on the saints to conform to the world increases every day with the force of the state being advanced incrementally to accomplish this. Our communities have been infiltrated with wolves in sheep's clothing preaching a worldly Gospel, "having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power." We are seeing the chaff blown away and those of true faith must remain strong and steadfast.

13 posted on 01/05/2008 10:37:57 AM PST by joebuck
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I think this has less to do with getting the operation than it has to do with forcing another institution to bow to the perverted desires of a slim sub-set of society.


14 posted on 01/05/2008 10:39:08 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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Without a doubt. He could easily have sought his operation at another hospital more obliging to his aberrant group.


15 posted on 01/05/2008 11:22:50 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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"I think this has less to do with getting the operation than it has to do with forcing another institution to bow to the perverted desires of a slim sub-set of society."

Exactly. Why should a hospital be forced to perform surgery it doesn't think necessary anyway? What if someone wanted a breast implant on the top of his head? Should the surgeon be forced to do that?

16 posted on 01/05/2008 11:24:51 AM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Spok

How about the other argument used....

“well, my genes make me a homosexual, and you can’t change
that...but if my genes make me feel like a women ,
well I have to change that...” bunch o’hypocritical sophists.

The best argument is this,IMHO,...since the person who wants
the sex change operation usually tells the doc that they
(the patient) feels like a member of the opposite sex already,
than it is apparent that their physical structure does not
effect how they perceive themselves. Therefore changing their organs
will not effect them. So, therefore it is an elective
cosmetic surgery(fill in the word mutilation, for accuracy)


17 posted on 01/05/2008 12:02:14 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"There's simply no religious exemption in the Unruh Act," Wertz said

How about:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ...."

I'm certain that there is another hospital in San Fagcisco where the doctor can do his little nip/tuck.

19 posted on 01/05/2008 12:17:26 PM PST by reg45
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If the hospital is a private one is it still liable?


20 posted on 01/05/2008 12:28:16 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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