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New Spot: "Troops Support Ron Paul"
The Washington Post ^ | January 4, 2008; | Sarah Lovenheim

Posted on 01/05/2008 12:35:42 PM PST by Baladas

Republican Ron Paul is out with a new TV ad, set to run in New Hampshire through Tuesday's primary, stressing his military credentials.

Patriotic music booms. Soldiers salute. The announcer begins: "A proud military veteran who served our nation. Ron Paul salutes and supports our troops who protect and defend our freedom." A flag waves. The announcer continues, "But who do the troops support? Ron Paul. The record shows they're standing up for him." The ad concludes: "Ron Paul is their choice for commander-in-chief."

His campaign spokesman Jesse Benton said Paul "has long been a praised as staunch advocate for veterans' issues." Still, he "wants to bring the troops home from Iraq" because he would rather America "never again sends out brave soldiers to war unless doing so is necessary for our defense," according to Benton. Whether his anti-war message will appeal to New Hampshire veterans is hard to say.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: ads; bravosierra; chutzpah; kucinichpaul08; militaryvote; nh2008; nhprimaries; paulkucinich08; ronpaul; usmilitary
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Suuuuuuuuuure they do.

This is McCain territory as far as NH is concerned - it won't appeal, maybe repel.

1 posted on 01/05/2008 12:35:43 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Baladas
The same guy who thought Clintoon didn’t go far enough in troop and military cuts in the 90s.. yea right.. heck, we can find troops that support Hilldog, Obama, even Kucinich. Statistically they are all such insignificant numbers, they cannot be used to judge the whole.
2 posted on 01/05/2008 12:39:27 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Baladas

I outed Ron Paul on WRKO in Boston this morning regarding my questionn to him two days ago in Iowa. I asked if, knowing the position of Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, if the North Koreans sent a ship to Iran with nuclear missiles, would you stop or sink that ship? His answer was, “Why would we?”


3 posted on 01/05/2008 12:41:07 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: SJackson; Allegra; lormand; wideawake; ejonesie22

Ping for a laugh


4 posted on 01/05/2008 12:42:29 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Baladas

Great ad by Dr. Paul, thanks for the post.


5 posted on 01/05/2008 12:42:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: doug from upland

I wonder what the troops in Iraq think of Paul knowing he has voted over and over against funding the supplies they need, like bullets and body armor.


6 posted on 01/05/2008 12:43:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Baladas

This was outed as a lie long ago.
The tards faked the whole thing claiming to be military.

The one fact we know is this:
Tards, Nazis, and conspiracy nuts vote for Ron Paul.
Patriot soldiers do not.


7 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:21 PM PST by Cyclops08
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To: mnehrling

Good grief...they’re still trotting out that old, many-times-debunked myth.


8 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:57 PM PST by Allegra (Back in the Middle East....that was a SHORT vacation.)
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To: mnehrling
I wonder what the troops in Iraq think of Paul knowing he has voted over and over against funding the supplies they need, like bullets and body armor.

Political discussions come up frequently in the chow halls, MWRs and the office, etc. I have yet to meet one military member in Iraq (or anywhere else, for that matter) who supports Ron Paul. I haven't met any Americans in Iraq at all who support him.

9 posted on 01/05/2008 12:47:48 PM PST by Allegra (Back in the Middle East....that was a SHORT vacation.)
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To: Cyclops08
Some do, but it is statistically insignificant (something like .0016% based on their own numbers- if memory serves me correctly.)
10 posted on 01/05/2008 12:48:26 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Baladas
It's about time the Ron Paul campaign spotlights the broad military support he has to combat the neo-con interventionist war boosters.
11 posted on 01/05/2008 12:49:03 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Nephi; Allegra
LOL, Allegra, just as you mention it, they trounce out that number, even though they were embarrassed to learn some kids put their band USAF down as an employer, only a couple had APO/AE addresses, and weren’t listed as military members on military.com.

They probably stick their fingers in their ears when they see polls like this:

http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2007/08/vets-find-republicans-more-favorable-but-paul-who/

Preference for 2008 Republican Nomination,
by Veteran Status (among Republicans and Republican leaners)

Giuliani Veteran 28% Non-Veteran 34% Total 33%
Thompson Veteran 25% Non-Veteran 19% Total 20%
McCain Veteran 13% Non-Veteran 14% Total 14%
Romney Veteran 12% Non-Veteran 10% Total 10%
Hunter Veteran 3% Non-Veteran 1% Total 1%
Huckabee Veteran 2% Non-Veteran 3% Total 3%
Hagel Veteran 2% Non-Veteran 1% Total 1%
Paul Veteran 1% Non-Veteran 3% Total 2%
Tancredo Veteran 1% Non-Veteran 1% Total 1%
Brownback Veteran <1% Non-Veteran 2% Total 1%
Other Veteran 3% Non-Veteran 2% Total 2%
No opinion Veteran 9% Non-Veteran 11% Total 11%

..oops

12 posted on 01/05/2008 12:53:42 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Nephi; mnehrling
It's about time the Ron Paul campaign spotlights the broad military support he has to combat the neo-con interventionist war boosters.

Wow. You almost got all of them in one sentence. I've noticed the favorite insults Paulies use against those of us who have the good sense not to support Ron Paul.

They are "neocon," "warmonger," "statist" and "big government supporter." You got two out of four, but the impressive thing is that you did it in one sentence.

You guys really need to get some new material. And some new myths. This one's been around so long, it has grey whiskers on it.

13 posted on 01/05/2008 1:02:59 PM PST by Allegra (Back in the Middle East....that was a SHORT vacation.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Nephi
"Ron Paul salutes and supports our troops who protect and defend our freedom."

That's hilarious! How can Paul's campaign say this with a straight face?

Paul believes the Cold War was a mistake and the War on Terror is a mistake.

Paul says Vietnam is better off as a united communist country, and wishes the same for Korea.

I guess Paul has his own meanings for words like "salute" and "support".

14 posted on 01/05/2008 1:04:53 PM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; Allegra
I guess Paul has his own meanings for words like "salute" and "support".

Paul just uses fewer fingers to salute our troops.

15 posted on 01/05/2008 1:05:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Nephi
“Constitutional conservatives have so little in common with freerepublic. It took 15 posts before a freeper acknowledged Ron Paul actually follows the constitution. I remember when freerepublic was a conservative forum...of course, that was before Jim Robinson embraced undeclared pre-emptive wars.”
16 posted on 01/05/2008 1:08:29 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Nephi

Whats funny is that I personally know military people who have donated to Thompson yet his reads 0. Hmmmmm
I also know that for these guys Ron Paul is last on their list.
Very interesting spin.


17 posted on 01/05/2008 1:11:25 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: Baladas

Iranian, Syrian, Hamas, and Al Queda troops support him, no doubt. Our troops: Not so much.


18 posted on 01/05/2008 1:13:37 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Nephi

Oh wait I see why no numbers for Thompson...this was from an old quarterly report and the Thompson listed is actually Tommy Thompson. lets see updated listings...


19 posted on 01/05/2008 1:16:27 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: mnehrling

Damn, just damn...


20 posted on 01/05/2008 1:16:59 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Allegra
The military supports (Cut 'n)Run Paul...

(Cut 'n)Run Paul doesn't accept money from the KKK, Stormfront and the likes of David Duke...

(Cut 'n)Run Paul doesn't actively court financial donations from the aforementioned KKK, Stormfront or David "The Nazi" Duke...

Run Paul really does support Israel and his votes in The House to the contrary are "misunderstood"...

(Cut 'n)Run Paul has much more support than the media credits.....

(Cut 'n)Run Paul is "under-represented" in the polls because ALLLLLLL the polling companies and ALLLLLL the media and news organizations got together and colluded in "under-representing" his support.....

(Cut 'n)Run Paul doesn't REALLY agree with the 9/11 Truthers he just appears on their radio shows...

(Cut 'n)Run Paul doesn't REALLLY solicit financial support from those very same Truthers that he disagrees with....

Those who disgaree with (Cut 'n)Run Paul are just "neo-cons" (code for Jews), "statists" and big government supporters".

Those who agree with Run Paul really are not acolytes and cultists but are "principled" Americans who "believe in the Constitution" except when it comes to "The Jooos"...just ask David Duke and Run Paul's fellow travellers over at Stormfront.

21 posted on 01/05/2008 1:17:36 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: Allegra
and last, but by no means least....

(Cut 'n)Run Paul isn't really a lunatic....he just plays one on TV.

22 posted on 01/05/2008 1:20:37 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: Baladas

Ron Paul was drafted into the army and never saw combat. Duncan Hunter enlisted and served in Vietnam.

Why would I vote for someone who doesn’t know who the enemies of this country are?

Ron Paul is a kook, a fool, and the last thing this country needs.


23 posted on 01/05/2008 1:21:25 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: sofaman

LOL! You would be an excellent candidate to head up Ron Paul’s Ministry of Silly Explanations, should he be elected, when hell freezes over and pigs are flying all over the place.


24 posted on 01/05/2008 1:21:50 PM PST by Allegra (Back in the Middle East....that was a SHORT vacation.)
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To: Allegra
the official name of that Ministry is the Ministry of Silly Buggers ...

Good to see you, btw, Ms Allegra. I hope that you are keeping well and safe...

25 posted on 01/05/2008 1:27:13 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: Baladas
Why would our proud pro American troops support an anti-American who votes to prevent them from getting the funding they need to survive and win the WOT? I doubt if anyone other than the paulbots will believe it.
26 posted on 01/05/2008 1:30:05 PM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: sofaman; Allegra
Ron Paul supports the troops, that's why he is holding rallies with the anti-war protesters outside Walter Reed hospital.

And always with his pal Cindy Sheehan.


27 posted on 01/05/2008 1:37:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
Game, Set & Match. I'm really interested in seeing what the RuPaul acolytes on FR have to say about that....

Although, come to think of it, they'll probably tell us that the photographs were actually fakes perpetrated by the CIA and that if it wasn't for the cover-up by the media the world would know the truth.

I just gave myself a headache.

28 posted on 01/05/2008 1:40:43 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: Nephi; Extremely Extreme Extremist; mnehrling
Hellooooo! How about those photographs, huh?

Cindy "It's the Joos" Sheehan ... 9/11 Truthers ... demonstrating outside Walter Reed.

You guys have so much to be proud of... but, nary a comment. You should be ashamed and embarrassed, but somehow I doubt it.

29 posted on 01/05/2008 1:43:55 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: sofaman
The standard explanations are:

They support the troops by wanting them to come from an illegal war.
The campaign is not responsible for all of the people who support it; they have a diverse background of followers who all believe in freedom.
I’m an evil, neocon liberal zionist who probably is pulling for Rudy.

30 posted on 01/05/2008 1:44:45 PM PST by mnehring
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To: sofaman
FYI, the Sheehan pics aren’t from Walter Reed. One is at a Ron Paul rally in Ft Worth (the guy next to her in the Ron Paul shirt is Stormfront leader Jamie Kelso, the other is at a protest in Deleware.)
31 posted on 01/05/2008 1:46:04 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling; sofaman
I’m an evil, neocon liberal zionist who probably is pulling for Rudy.

And you love big government, you warmonger. ;-)

32 posted on 01/05/2008 1:46:08 PM PST by Allegra (Back in the Middle East....that was a SHORT vacation.)
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To: Baladas
A proud military veteran who served our nation

An Air Force doctor.....please!

33 posted on 01/05/2008 1:48:57 PM PST by chesty_puller (70-73 USMC VietNam 75-79 US Army Wash DC....VietNam was safer.)
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To: Allegra; sofaman
Did you see this?

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/01/05/18470186.php

"Paul is a white nationalist of the Stormfront type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position." -American Nazi Party Commander, Bill White

For the record, I don't believe he is a nazi, but he sure does attract them.

34 posted on 01/05/2008 1:49:39 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Cyclops08
Patriot soldiers do not.

Maybe, but a 7 yr veteran spoke on behalf of RP at our caucus meeting and another vet stood up when he'd finished.

I don't know what it is about RP that appeals to them, but according to the stats, RP has quite the following of veterans and current enlisted. Far be it from me to say that they aren't all patriots just because they support RP.

36 posted on 01/05/2008 1:53:30 PM PST by radiohead ("Dissolution of the IRS as we know it." Fred Thompson. Stop...You had me at "dissolution.")
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To: radiohead
See the link in post #12, the real polling disagrees with Paul’s propaganda.
37 posted on 01/05/2008 1:54:39 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Thanks. I’m reading the additional posts now.

I was surprised to see these young men support Paul; I truly don’t understand it.


38 posted on 01/05/2008 1:56:40 PM PST by radiohead ("Dissolution of the IRS as we know it." Fred Thompson. Stop...You had me at "dissolution.")
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To: Admin Moderator

Hmmm, I thought you were going to use your vast resources to post a link disputing Ron Paul’s military donations. Well, at least you didn’t just ban me.


39 posted on 01/05/2008 1:59:53 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: radiohead

What stats are you talking about? From the Truth and the Spin? They look totally bogus. As a veteran myself, I can tell you that Paul would not be appreciated in the military by very many folks. In fact, as a Texan, he won’t be appreciated by many of us.


40 posted on 01/05/2008 2:04:59 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: chesty_puller
An Air Force doctor.....please!

What's wrong with that?

What is it you find objectionable, the Air Force part or the doctor part?

41 posted on 01/05/2008 2:22:31 PM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Nephi
From the link you provided:
NAME:  TOTAL  ARMY  NAVY  AIR FORCE  VETERAN  USMC**
RON PAUL:  24,965  6,975  6,765  4,650  5,075  1,500
McCain:  17,475  6925  6305  1795  800  1600
Romney:  3,551  2,051  0  1500  0
Giuliani:  2,320  1,450  370  250  250
Hunter:  1000  0  1000  0
Huckabee:  750  250  0  500
Tancredo:  350  350  0  0
Brownback:  71  71  0  0
Thompson:  0  0  0  0
Units are contributions in dollars by employees of the respective military organizations.
I have to say, "WOW!". Eight figure campaign receipts for most of the candidates and we're suppose to get excited about military contributions to Ron Paul because he leads with just shy of $25K?!

42 posted on 01/05/2008 2:23:33 PM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: BufordP
I have to say, "WOW!". Eight figure campaign receipts for most of the candidates and we're suppose to get excited about military contributions to Ron Paul because he leads with just shy of $25K?!

I agree, WOW!! but apparently there is some question as to the validity of the donations. I haven't seen any proof, yet, just anecdotal consternation.

So, in the mean time, yes, you're right, it is an impressive endorsement for a campaign run by 7 computer hackers in some dark basement, texting online polls overtime, in between bong hits, being coached by Cindy Sheehan.

43 posted on 01/05/2008 2:35:28 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: Baladas

I think Ron is thinking of baboons... not soldiers.


44 posted on 01/05/2008 2:36:51 PM PST by Porterville (Don't bug me about my grammar, you are not that great.)
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To: BufordP

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/10/the_fantasy_of_ron_pauls_milit.asp

At every military site I’ve ever been to, the people there hate him. They’re McCain, Thompson, or Hunter supporters.


45 posted on 01/05/2008 2:42:34 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Nephi
...So, in the mean time, yes, you're right, it is an impressive endorsement for a campaign run by 7 computer hackers in some dark basement, texting online polls overtime, in between bong hits, being coached by Cindy Sheehan.

Debate your red herrings with the fish merchants. I prefer steak and potatos.

Ron Paul's Fair Weather Friends

46 posted on 01/05/2008 2:52:01 PM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: RedRover
That's hilarious! How can Paul's campaign say this with a straight face?

Well, it's easy. Paul has always supported a strong national defense. Just ask Reagan.

Paul believes the Cold War was a mistake and the War on Terror is a mistake.

The Cold War comments were taken out of context and he said Iraq is a mistake, not the overall War on Terror. He supported going after bin Laden.

Paul says Vietnam is better off as a united communist country, and wishes the same for Korea.

Yes, it is. Vietnam is communist in name only. It is a very capitalistic nation in which the people enjoy broad freedoms. And the sooner we leave Korea, the sooner that nation can be united as well.

47 posted on 01/05/2008 3:02:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: mnehrling
Ron Paul supports the troops, that's why he is holding rallies with the anti-war protesters outside Walter Reed hospital.

His official campaign didn't coordinate those rallies.

48 posted on 01/05/2008 3:02:58 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: Baladas; trooprally; Jimmy Valentine's brother; bmwcyle; kburi; Chief; cindy-true-supporter; ...

I took a poll at our last Walter Reed FReep. All veterans in our group (except for me) agree Ron Paul is a nut. I on the other hand would prefer Ron over the current POTUS. But I also prefer Hunter, Thompson, and Romney over Paul.

http://www.geocities.com/buford_p/FR/WRFreeps.html

Let’s save any disagreements over those choices for another day. I’d prefer to keep the discussion on this thread germane to the assertion that Paul is the “preferred” candidate by veterans.


49 posted on 01/05/2008 3:05:40 PM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: radiohead

“a 7 yr veteran spoke on behalf of RP”
You can always count on a few ‘tards to show up.
Sorry not impressed.

Ron Paul supporters are an embarrassment.


50 posted on 01/05/2008 3:18:15 PM PST by Cyclops08
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