Great Britain: Bishop warns of no-go zones for non-Muslims (Too dangerous to enter)

The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | January 5, 2007 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

[Stoat]

Bishop warns of no-go zones for non-Muslims

By Jonathan Wynne-Jones
 

Last Updated: 7:53pm GMT 05/01/2008

 

 

Islamic extremists have created "no-go" areas across Britain where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter, one of the Church of England's most senior bishops warns today.

• The Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester and the Church's only Asian bishop, says that people of a different race or faith face physical attack if they live or work in communities dominated by a strict Muslim ideology.

  	Bishop Nazir-Ali warns that attempts are being made to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character

  Writing in The Sunday Telegraph, he compares the threat to the use of intimidation by the far-Right, and says that it is becoming increasingly difficult for Christianity to be the nation's public religion in a multifaith, multicultural society.

  His comments come as a poll of the General Synod - the Church's parliament - shows that its senior leaders, including bishops, also believe that Britain is being damaged by large-scale immigration.

  Bishop Nazir-Ali, who was born in Pakistan, gives warning that attempts are being made to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character by introducing the call to prayer and wider use of sharia law, a legal system based on the Koran.

  In an attack on the Government's response to immigration and the influx of "people of other faiths to these shores", he blames its "novel philosophy of multiculturalism" for allowing society to become deeply divided, and accuses ministers of lacking a "moral and spiritual vision".

  Echoing Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, who has said that the country is "sleepwalking into segregation", the bishop argues that multiculturalism has led to deep divisions.

  David Davis, the shadow home secretary, has accused Muslims of promoting a kind of "voluntary apartheid" by shutting themselves in closed societies and demanding immunity from criticism.

  In the Synod survey, to be published this week, bishops, senior clergy and influential churchgoers said that an increasingly multi-faith society threatens the country's Christian heritage and blamed the divisions on the Government's failure to integrate immigrants into their communities.

  It found that more than one in three believe that a mass influx of people of other faiths is diluting the Christian nature of Britain and only a quarter feel that they have been integrated into society.

  The overwhelming majority - 80 per cent - said that the Government has not upheld the place of religion in public life and up to 63 per cent fear that the Church will be disestablished within a generation, breaking a bond that has existed between the Church and State since the Reformation.

  Calls for disestablishment have grown following research showing that attendance at Mass has overtaken the number of worshippers at Church of England Sunday services.

  Bishop Nazir-Ali, whose father converted from Islam to Catholicism, was criticised by Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "It's irresponsible for a man of his position to make these comments.

  "He should accept that Britain is a multicultural society in which we are free to follow our religion at the same time as being extremely proud to be British. We wouldn't allow 'no-go' areas to happen. I smell extreme intolerance when people criticise multiculturalism without proper evidence of what has gone wrong."

  But the Bishop's concerns are shared by other members of the General Synod.

  The Rt Rev Nicholas Reade, the Bishop of Blackburn, which has a large Muslim community, said that it was increasingly difficult for Christians to share their faith in areas where there was a high proportion of immigrants of other faiths.

  He believes that increasing pressure will be put on the Government to begin the process of disestablishment and end the preferential status given to the Church of England. "The writing is on the wall," he said.

  Gordon Brown relinquished Downing Street's involvement in appointing bishops in one of his first facts as Prime Minister - a move viewed by some as a significant step towards disestablishment.

  Last night, Mr Davis said: "Bishop Nazir-Ali has drawn attention to a deeply serious problem. The Government's confused and counter-productive approach risks creating a number of closed societies instead of one open, cohesive one. It generates the risk of encouraging radicalisation and creating home-grown terrorism."

[blam]

Anthropologists 500-1,000 years from now will be hard pressed to explain how and why Western civilization committed suicide. It’s already too late to recover...we’re done!

[SALChamps03]

I frequently write editorials to my local newspaper. I wrote one recently about the violent nation of those who follow Islam by citing multiple examples. I rarely get calls back before they publish since I am a regular contributor.

I got a call back on this article. The lady wanted me to cite news sources so she could be sure that the claims I was making were facts. I spent over an hour last night searching for multiple sources for each example.

It's my personal opinion that they don't want to publish it because they are afraid it will stir up any Muzzies we have locally. I think she was just hoping I would quietly go away. No such chance. I plan to write at least one a year on Muslim violence, lest anyone forget what a subhuman group of murderers these pieces of trash are.

[Stoat]

rather late me thinks

Obvious conclusions that the thoughtful public has long accepted are traditionally late in coming from "Official" channels such as a Bishop of the Church of England, but they are helpful nonetheless in that they have the effect of bringing essential, if long overdue, topics to the table.  In this instance it's quite telling to see the Islamofascist Response to the Bishop's rather hesitant, weak and tentative yet glaringly obvious conclusions:

 

Bishop Nazir-Ali, whose father converted from Islam to Catholicism, was criticised by Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "It's irresponsible for a man of his position to make these comments.

"He should accept that Britain is a multicultural society in which we are free to follow our religion at the same time as being extremely proud to be British. We wouldn't allow 'no-go' areas to happen. I smell extreme intolerance when people criticise multiculturalism without proper evidence of what has gone wrong."

So, according to Ibrahim Mogra, the Bishop of Rochester is lying ("We wouldn't allow 'no-go' areas to happen.") and such statements shouldn't even be uttered ("It's irresponsible for a man of his position to make these comments. ")

As usual, anyone who dares say anything negative about Islam or muzzies is a liar and Islam is, apparently, perfect and not in any need of greater scrutiny, self-regulation or adjustment.

Exchanges such as this on the "Official" level are helpful in that they remind those of us who are not political and culture-war junkies that intolerant Islam is very much a fact and remains a dire threat, despite the slavish pronouncements of it's apologists.

[Biggirl]

Pray for a return to faith in Christ in the UK as for the Gospel to go out to non-Christians.

[Biggirl]

That is what will make all the difference between America and the UK, there are many Americans who have guns and the Muslims that are here for this reason mind their P’s and Q’s.

[Capt. Tom]

They cannot impose their totalitarian system on the world.

They can die trying , and take us along with them. - tom

[elpadre]

IMO the British model is the one being pursued by Islam in every free (Western) country. Look at Europe, i.e. Germany, France, Holland etc. - same pattern. There was a map published on FR last year that showed Muslim groups have already been established in every city of consequence in the US already. Are they of the radical philosophy or not - I don’t have a clue. But they are there and probably growing.

[Gritty]

[Capt. Tom]

It's my personal opinion that they don't want to publish it because they are afraid it will stir up any Muzzies we have locally. I think she was just hoping I would quietly go away.

If that is the case tell them to fess up to it like the (Boston) Phoenix did when they wouldn't publish the Danish Muhammed cartoons because of a fear of reprisal from the Muslims...

The Phoenix- World of pain
The space between free speech and respect in the ultimate culture war February 10, 2006 3:01:12 PM

snip- Out of fear of retaliation from the international brotherhood of radical and bloodthirsty Islamists who seek to impose their will on those who do not believe as they do. This is, frankly, our primary reason for not publishing any of the images in question. Simply stated, we are being terrorized, and as deeply as we believe in the principles of free speech and a free press, we could not in good conscience place the men and women who work at the Phoenix and its related companies in physical jeopardy. As we feel forced, literally, to bend to maniacal pressure, this may be the darkest moment in our 40-year publishing history.

[Stoat]

Anthropologists 500-1,000 years from now will be hard pressed to explain how and why Western civilization committed suicide.

Actually, as long as references to Socialism, Marxism and Communism survive the next thousand years (and hopefully ONLY as "references") I believe that it will be glaringly obvious to anthropologists, in that the dots will be terribly easy to connect.

Socialism is a natural ally of Islamofascism as well as political correctness and a host of other social and societal cancers.  Hardcore, unrepentant Capitalism is one excellent part of the cure, as Islamofascism is not only an unsalable commodity but has no investment potential.  It only serves to suck all positive energies, including economic ones, out of the atmosphere.

[Fred Nerks]

[weegee]

I looked up the vote on the UN resolution. The West consistently rejected it. Muslim nations and third world countries passed it.

[weegee]

There is no England now. I’m talking spirit of the nation, not the name. There are entertainers who let it slip that this is not the England they grew up in. There was a British aire.

It is gone. Sometimes the entertainers find that they have to back pedal on their words but the belief is there.

[weegee]

Keep writing (and make use of FR bookmarks and keywords to help yourself and others in researching old threads).

You can also find articles by searching FR via google and yahoo. I will say that Yahoo has a deeper search than google now (google has trimmed their DB of the older content, but it will find FR posts that are just minutes old now).

Anyway, keep writing. The editor who reads your letters may have his/her eyes opened; eventually. There are nagging truths that just won’t go away. They may eat at the editor as (s)he lies on his/her pillow at night. Be respectful in tone in your letters, be thorough in your sourcing, and be steady; keep going. Thanks.

[weegee]

Let me amend that to say “they cannot be permitted to try to impose their totalitarian system on the world.”

[weegee]

And yet there are those on FR who defended Will Smith when he said that Hitler wasn’t “evil”, that he did what he thought was morally right.

I knew the quotes were out there but couldn’t/didn’t search for them. Thanks.

[cmotormac44]

“then there are the cowards——who couldn’t care if they live under democracy or communism-—”

along with the great mob of Americans who only care about drinking their beer,burping and watching overpaid athletes perform, smoking their pot while listening to their idiot music pounding in their ears——no real surprise as every great civilization has ended in the same manner——we will be no different, as history has proved time and again—

[kalee]

Just the same it passed and we as members of the UN will be expected to uphold it.

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