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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 6 January 2008
Various big media television networks ^ | 6 January 2008 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/06/2008 4:13:42 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: Sunnyflorida
Two different worlds, the left coast has the cool pacific waters cooling it all the time while we have the 80 degree Gulfstream always warming us.
I just want a whole day off.
461 posted on 01/06/2008 10:32:09 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: penelopesire
"I have a new slogan (wish I knew how to put a tagline next to my name?)"

Right below the box where I am typing this reply is the Tagline box. Put it in there ad it will show up in your posts from now on.

462 posted on 01/06/2008 10:33:16 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Not the way you think. At least for Colorado.

We are divided in both county and US House districts.

Our precincts elect delegates to our county assembly. At the county assembly delegates are elected to the state convention or assembly and/or the district assembly. (Convention on presidential election years and assemble on the off years.) Our county delegates go to state and vote for national delegates. District delegates stop at that point because their job is designed for US House elections.

The concept is the Republican party is driven from the bottom up, not the top down. We elect our party representatives but also vote on the party platform as well as by laws and rules. All of it moves from the bottom up with exceptions for procedural rules or submitted changes coming from the leadership. But even those have to be approved by delegate vote.

For example, if you have an issue you believe should be in the state or national platform, you would submit it to your precinct and get others to submit it to theirs. If there is support it is then submitted to the county, and the same thing happens for the state as well as national. To the best of my knowledge all of these issues come from the ground up.

At the precinct level our neighbors pretty much know which candidate a delegate will vote for because we’re asked in a smaller, informal setting. At the county level it’s like a Chinese fire drill with people running around asking for votes and declaring what we stand for or who we would vote for. At the state convention/assembly those people who want to go to the national convention cross the stage and have thirty seconds or a minute to make their pitch while the delegates vote. In each case it’s time consuming to tally all the votes but that’s grass root politics at its finest.

By the informal nature of the above, there is rarely time to print a ballot. At the county level all delegates are listed and we put check marks by the ones we want to elect. That means there can easily be sixty to a hundred names on the list and we choose forty or more depending on each counties allocated numbers.


463 posted on 01/06/2008 10:34:54 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Laverne

It is so warm here (Dallas area) that, even though the wind is so strong I could hardly open the car door, it is still hot!


464 posted on 01/06/2008 10:35:50 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: Gondring

Interesting links.

Did you see this in the notes:
“There are currently 2,380 total delegates to the Republican National Convention, including 1,917 pledged delegates and 463 unpledged delegates. The total number of delegate votes needed to win the nomination is 1,191.
• Unpledged delegates in the Republican Party do not have to indicate a candidate preference, but a majority are elected just like pledged delegates. Of the 463 unpledged delegates, 123 are RNC members who become delegates automatically. “


465 posted on 01/06/2008 10:36:18 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Sorry, I forgot.

At the state convention delegates do vote for individual candidates. The vote is similar to the electoral college in that we are really electing delegates who will support the nominee chosen. So although national delegate names are not on a list, the candidate is.


466 posted on 01/06/2008 10:37:18 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: SW6906

Thanks.


467 posted on 01/06/2008 10:39:05 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Morgan in Denver

At what point do the CO delegates get “unbound” / “unpledged” if there is a deadlock and no majority for any candidate at the convention?


468 posted on 01/06/2008 10:40:50 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: Sunnyflorida

The pledged delegates are only locked into their candidates for the first 2 votes. Then I believe it is an open convention and all bets are off.

Pray for W and Our Troops


469 posted on 01/06/2008 10:43:46 AM PST by bray (Fred, the Law and Order Candidate)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Wiki is pretty accurate from what I understand. CO is a caucus state but candidates have an option to get on a ballot by petition if they want to forgo the caucus.

You’re right, it is complex but easily understood once you’ve gone through it once. But, as I said, each state has its own quirks as to how they get to the end.

I strongly recommend everyone get involved in the grass root aspects of our party. We can complain but change comes from this ground up efforts.


470 posted on 01/06/2008 10:44:00 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Sunnyflorida

Delegates are generally bound for their first ballot vote.


471 posted on 01/06/2008 10:46:17 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: bray

Thanks for correcting me. I thought it was the first vote only.


472 posted on 01/06/2008 10:47:20 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Morgan in Denver

“I strongly recommend everyone get involved in the grass root aspects of our party.’

Oh, absolutely. We are a Republican County and City but there are GOP big-government types embedded that are always ready to run wild and they just love to expand government.

Plus, we have all of a sudden gotten a well organized and active Sierra Club (some under the cover of other organizations, like the stupid Manatee Club for one). They are co-opting the anti-growth people and gullible northerners into a populist coalition to steal property rights.


473 posted on 01/06/2008 10:50:32 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!!)
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To: bray

“Will she get turd in NH too??”

No, and she won’t be turd in Oregon either. That designation has already been assigned.


474 posted on 01/06/2008 10:51:20 AM PST by Cedric
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To: anita; All

Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, everyone!

Anita, thanks again for the amazing work you do every week to produce your nuggets. I LOVE to read every week such quotes in the fourth link (from the “American Thinker”): “When things are going poorly for the Left, count on it to change the subject.” Your nuggets are a wonder weekly “reality check” that document trends and developments that (somehow/sarc) the MSM ignores or spins.


475 posted on 01/06/2008 10:55:01 AM PST by CDB
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To: Sunnyflorida

We have problems here too. That’s why it’s important to keep conservatives involved. We tend to lose some of our more conservative members to people more liberal.

It’s hard in Denver too. Denver is very liberal and Republicans are in the minority behind Democrats and Independents.

McCain/Finegold nationally followed by a state campaign finance law change has hurt Republicans. While the Democrats here geared up for the change, Republicans failed to learn what to do or how to overcome the changes. The result has been more Democrats elected while Republicans sit around complaining about it.

Look at both websites and ask yourself which party is doing best. Better yet, review and evaluate your own state to compare.

http://cologop.org/ for Republicans (Under change. For the better I hope.)
http://coloradodems.org/ for Democrats, but they also have http://coloradodems.com to use as a hit site.


476 posted on 01/06/2008 11:01:14 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: seekthetruth

Thanks for the link!

I don’t know what prompted Jeri to call in (I doubt it was Fred) but maybe O’royalty had made some reference to Fred.

Anyway, he certainly didn’t defer to her but he was no ruder than usual and I thought she handled it extremely well.

She’s a very charming person.

I wonder how many candidates have appeared on Bill’s show...I quite often manage to miss him.

Has Hillary appeared? Obama? Mitt?

He acts like Fred is the only holdout, so I just wondered.


477 posted on 01/06/2008 11:03:23 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: rodguy911

Obama got Blacker before our very ears in that speech.


478 posted on 01/06/2008 11:05:14 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: seekthetruth

Yes, Fred’s plan will work. He refuses to offer pie in the sky stuff like the dems do. He just makes a sensible do-able plan.

I can’t believe people believe Huckabee can magically abolish abortion in the country. He can’t walk on water either.


479 posted on 01/06/2008 11:09:14 AM PST by altura (Go, Fred!)
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To: altura
He has also complained that Hilliary and Obama will not appear he may major more on Fred knowing that the majority of his audience are likely to be Republican than Democrat but he does very often comment that the other 2 will not appear on his show yet will go on shows such Leno and Letterman which in his opinion make the candidates seem light weight.
480 posted on 01/06/2008 11:10:17 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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