Posted on 01/06/2008 7:23:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
The pure democracy you suggest would result in that. In fact, it may already have happened.
Your posts are evidence.
You didn’t make it far enough in the thread, but I’ll give you credit for being more civilized than most.
So you’re equating majority voting with mob rule.
What would you propose as an alternative?
it has been quite a while since I have encountered one of the frauds here, and in fact I will admit I was the one that turned him into the mods and got him banned....but that was several years ago. I haven’t encountered it here since, but have elsewhere.
I don’t deny that I smoke, but my argument here has nothing to do with that. My argument is that I don’t believe that I have the right to dictate the clientele of another businessperson. I have been self-employed for far too long to be comfortable with others dictating my clientele, which is why I have such problems with your support of voter referendum on smoking bans. I have never owned a bar or restaurant, but have worked in my fair share of both and I have never encountered ANYONE who was forced to patronize one.
The definition of a “public place” has been bastardized from a place “owned” by the public, i.e. the taxpayers (courts, DMV, any other government buildings) to one that is privately owned, but INVITES the public to enter.
I agree with you in regard to people needing to get away from the idea government is there to save them.
On your distracted driving premise, laws against that are already on the books, I don’t see a reason for anymore. I know I got a ticket for distracted driving, long before there were cell phones.....so the laws are already on the books. BTW, that ticket was over 20 years ago :)
Confine your comments to the knitting circle rather than advocating impimging upon my freedoms, and I will be happy to comply with your request.
Why, thank you.
Bladder infections smack the recipient in the face with reality.
What we used to have and what was designed, a representative republic.
Like many issues, there are more than enough laws on the books regarding distracted driving. Of course, they are almost meaningless (as they are more or less unenforceable). It’s frustrating to me because I encounter so many people driving erratically who are talking on cell phones. I’d prefer that they be smart enough to not talk on cell phones (or send text messages, or whatever) while driving.
Fortunately, like most things, the free market is solving this. Hands-free devices are cheap and widely available, and Bluetooth is making that even easier.
I don’t knit, I freep and I will comment on any thread I choose, whether you like it or not. Now go have a smoke and leave me alone.
Correct me if I’m wrong, Mr. Quinn, but this very thread is about elected representatives in Wisconsin acting on behalf of the people. Simply because you don’t like what they are trying to do doesn’t mean they aren’t acting in their official duties (even though they’re almost certainly overstepping their bounds).
I suggest referendums, by the way, as a way to allow the public to voice their opinions on matters which they are qualified to judge. Elected representatives are supposed to inform themselves on the issues they are voting on so the public don’t have to do; that’s why they’re elected.
Gleefully polluting an environment of my choice with first-and second-hand smoke as we speak.
Annoys you, doesn't it?
Except the people who smoke, which is by the way, LEGAL in all 50 states and most of the world.
You got that right.
No not in the least, now leave me alone.
Gladly, as soon as you do the same.
Thank You. However, that isn’t an answer!
Those arguments are still working great for the smokers. Keep up the good work.
...which is why I said they’re overstepping their bounds.
Actually, I think any arguments pro or con concerning The Constitution and Personal Freedoms fall upon deaf ears both here and also in my Politically Correct, Sheeple-Filled town.
Can’t wait until they start taxing the h#ll out of Tea and Coffee. Boy, Howdy! That’s gonna be fun, fun, fun, LOL!
I already said the free market should dictate bans as far as restaurants go. The owner decides, and if people don’t like it they speak with their dollars.
Why is government inclined to pass all-or-nothing legislation? That’s a great question, one I certainly wish I knew the answer to. You could start with the catch-all that government, given a choice between acting or doing nothing, will always choose the worse of the two options. In this case, as most, acting is the worse of the two.
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