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Smoking Ban Dragging? Bill Faces Fight, but Gets 1st Vote Tuesday (WI)
Madison.com ^ | January 5, 2008 | Judith Davidoff

Posted on 01/06/2008 7:23:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: gidget7

You have a good point - that I don’t deny. There is a chance that if cell phone use while driving was illegal at the time we might not have been hit. Of course, there’s a chance they could’ve been doing something else that would’ve caused them to hit me. I don’t know. I do know there are plenty of hands-free devices that make cell phone use no different than talking while driving. Remember that “distracted driving” is against the law in most places. Citizens pay for those roads, and we expect some measure of safety. If you ask me, people who talk on their cell phones pose a far greater hazard than people driving 46 in a 40.


81 posted on 01/06/2008 5:35:52 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7

What happened to the mom & pop restaurants (which happened to have the best food)?


82 posted on 01/06/2008 5:36:35 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: flintsilver7
The only sort of smoking ban I would support is one in which the people decide through voter referendum that they would prefer it.

Mob rule. Always a good prospect.

83 posted on 01/06/2008 5:38:50 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Well, as I’m sure you know, the anti-smoking lobby believes it’s their liberty (a right to clean air or some such) that they’re fighting for. That’s an appeal to tradition that you’re using by saying that they are people who value liberty. I assure you plenty of proponents of various anti-smoking policies do in fact value liberty.

I continue to believe that the biggest opponents of smoking bans are themselves smokers. Of course, most of the people who would oppose a Twinkie ban would likely be avid Twinkies eaters. All of them? No, of course not. Again, that’s a bad example, because I don’t think the majority of people would ever support such a nonsensical movement.


84 posted on 01/06/2008 5:42:08 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: at bay
Nanny staters please hold near.

What is next is something you hold dear.

85 posted on 01/06/2008 5:42:28 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Are you suggesting that the United States is ruled by the mob?


86 posted on 01/06/2008 5:42:47 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: elkfersupper

Not quite sure what you’re asking, but I didn’t list the various local establishments as unless you’re near me you won’t have any idea what they are.


87 posted on 01/06/2008 5:44:27 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7

At what time do we load do we load smokers into boxcars, freedomlover?


88 posted on 01/06/2008 5:46:31 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: at bay
And I supported your bid to quit smoking and will support another experiment, perhaps this time for good...the experiment, I mean.

A whole lot of us would support your experiment to STFU (to no effect of course).

89 posted on 01/06/2008 5:46:46 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: KC_Conspirator

Thank you for making it all the way to post 8 to judge me.


90 posted on 01/06/2008 5:48:00 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: at bay
Best look for your rights as enumerated in the Constitution rather that in your imagination.

The Constitution doesn't enumerate individual rights, it enumerates government powers; which people like you have usurped gleefully.

91 posted on 01/06/2008 5:50:03 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: at bay
Modesto routinely bans fireplace use and any fires during times of extreme pollution.

Thank you for letting us know where the forces of freedom need to attack first.

It is........Modesto.

92 posted on 01/06/2008 5:53:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: flintsilver7
Many of these threads get quite emotional, and many of the people involved are smokers statists.

There, all fixed.

93 posted on 01/06/2008 5:58:57 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Ditter
one side of the line was smoking and the other side was non smoking. The only customers that pleased was the smokers because the smoke was still there.

Why do you care, and why do you want to legislate your concerns?

94 posted on 01/06/2008 6:02:04 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

The majority on FR are statists.


95 posted on 01/06/2008 6:02:44 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: elkfersupper

Don’t talk to me.


96 posted on 01/06/2008 6:02:47 PM PST by Ditter
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To: flintsilver7
90% of people on Free Repulic would like to ban flintsilver7.

Now, what?

97 posted on 01/06/2008 6:04:30 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“We know what the public wants..”

Yeah right.


98 posted on 01/06/2008 6:05:17 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: elkfersupper

Good response to my arguments (or at least the ones you must have read, since your comment shows you don’t understand the others). I like your capability for logical reasoning and ability to produce and convey a civilized counterargument.

By that I mean you’re about as endearing as a bladder infection.


99 posted on 01/06/2008 6:07:54 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7

Is it unlawful for any restaurant or tavern to declare themself a no smoking facility? The answer is “no”. No legislation, no laws, nothing is required for this simple expediency. Everything else is sophistry.

You have to ask yourself why the various governments are inclined to pass all or nothing legislation, then. Why do you suppose that is?


100 posted on 01/06/2008 6:07:54 PM PST by Freedom4US
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