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Fred Thompson: Romneycare At A Glance
Upper Cumberland Daily News ^ | 120607

Posted on 01/06/2008 2:30:43 PM PST by Fred

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To: Mojave

You’re calling the Heritage Foundation liars. It was only a matter of time.


201 posted on 01/06/2008 6:33:11 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
If you’re backing Williams, you’re backing a liberal Democrat who wants to empower a party where almost HALF its Senate members have been either convicted, are on trial, or are about to be indicted. You seem to be the last person in TN who claims to be Conservative who doesn’t see how much of a Judas he is. You better get with the program.

Hey McGoo put on your glasses. I told you I'm not in his district. But hey you wanna win hearts and change minds? Try this. Go to a town in Union County called Luttrell and preach to them about what all you want them to do. Saturday nights are your best bet.

202 posted on 01/06/2008 6:50:02 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

If I am a liberal than you must be uninformed.


203 posted on 01/06/2008 7:08:10 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: claudiustg
You’re calling the Heritage Foundation liars.

Nope. But you just lied. Again.

204 posted on 01/06/2008 7:22:25 PM PST by Mojave
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To: cva66snipe

Union County supports criminal-party empowering back-stabbing liberal Judases like Mike Williams ?


205 posted on 01/06/2008 7:36:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Union County supports criminal-party empowering back-stabbing liberal Judases like Mike Williams ?

Gee why not just go to Luttrell one Saturday night and ask them for yourself. Please put the question to the kind folk in the same manner as you did me.

you don't know local politics. Let's see who was from Union County politically? Oh yea Jake Butcher was. Half still wanna hang him half say he's a saint. If the most damage the area can do ya is Mike Williams be thankful for it. This isn't the suburbs of Nashville these are rural communities with many families established up to several hundred years in the area including my own. I don't think what you want matters much to them. If Mike Williams takes care of business in his home district his seat is safe. They will not boot him out over a party feud in Nashville.

206 posted on 01/06/2008 8:15:22 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: 2111USMC

I think everyone should know how gov’t works in a state where the votes are split. The Mass legislature and senate are so Democrat that they can override vetos. The choices are compromise or not get anything through. Does anyone here think that Reagan wanted all that spending he got with his tax cuts?

To get the cuts he had to yield on spending bills. That is how things work and I’m really surprised that so few here think that Mitt can just ram anything through in Mass.


207 posted on 01/06/2008 8:19:48 PM PST by byteback
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To: cva66snipe

Jake Butcher is 30 years ago. This is 2008. We’re gonna run Judas Mike’s crook-supporting liberal ass out of office on a rail.


208 posted on 01/06/2008 8:30:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: claudiustg
“Because that was mandated by the court and not subject to negotiation.”

The courts didn’t mandate consultation with Planned Parenthood, only that insurance plans not discriminate against abortion. Besides, how exactly could the courts force the state to require coverage of abortion? Romney could have followed the grand tradition of Andrew Jackson (”John Marshal has made his decision, now let him enforce it>”) He was always free to say that the court rulings were wrong and that, as Governor, he would not agree to any plan that conformed with them. He could have done the same thing with respect to gay marriage. He didn’t, because he was the liberal Governor of a liberal state and apparently quite comfortable in that role.

Fair enough. But don’t turn around two years later and run for President as a conservative. That is an insult to the voters’ collective intelligence. Worse yet, it can’t possibly work.

The only plausible rationale for the Romney campaign is that Lincoln Chaffee and Jim Jeffords didn’t run and somebody has to carry the banner of the New England Republican. Any conservative who supports Mitt is a pathetic fool.

209 posted on 01/06/2008 8:42:18 PM PST by fluffdaddy
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Jake Butcher is 30 years ago. This is 2008. We’re gonna run Judas Mike’s crook-supporting liberal ass out of office on a rail.

Thats right Jake was 30 years ago and is still a legend up there to many. YOU are not going to run anyone anywhere and If YOU and others think you can force persons in the area to do as you say well YOU are drinking strong party Kool Aide.

Hey has it ever occurred to you that you are getting all bent out of shape over Wilder who is what now 87 years old? He isn't going to be LT GOV any more and he even likely has faced that reality. He may well not live another term if he even runs again.

Williams is Independent because his area is no mans land as far as party loyalty goes. This isn't the Nashville suburbs nor is it even Knoxville. Sounds to me like you are so frustrated at your own local situation which should be the focus of your energy that you instead choose to try changing an area you likely have never even been in much less a snowballs chance in changing minds.

I know the area because I live in walking distance of Williams district. If the party tries an outsider that will not work. Party doesn't win the election there reputation for job performance, friendships, and what comes back to the district does. His district is fairing pretty good in improvements. IOW you're wasting your time.

210 posted on 01/06/2008 9:12:26 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Fred

This needs to be broadcast far and wide.

See tagline.


211 posted on 01/06/2008 9:14:50 PM PST by Antoninus (If you want the national GOP to look more like the Massachusetts GOP, vote for Flip Romney)
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To: claudiustg
Let’s run a candidate that’s against doing anything about healthcare.

Nothing is better than this PoS plan.
212 posted on 01/06/2008 9:15:34 PM PST by Antoninus (If you want the national GOP to look more like the Massachusetts GOP, vote for Flip Romney)
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To: Diogenesis
“Romney arrived on the scene with great promise, but is leaving the Republican Party here in shambles. Not only are the Republicans yielding the governor’s office for the first time in 16 years, but registered Republicans have fallen by 31,000 since Romney took office, and their legislative presence is at historic lows. But it worked out fine for him: He is now chasing the prize he really covets, the presidency.”

See tagline.
213 posted on 01/06/2008 9:17:15 PM PST by Antoninus (If you want the national GOP to look more like the Massachusetts GOP, vote for Flip Romney)
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To: cva66snipe

Since you didn’t hear me the first few times, I’ll repeat it for your benefit. We’re gonna run Judas Mike’s crook-supporting liberal ass out of office on a rail. You may not have a problem with the criminal rodent party in absolute control of TN state government, but I sure as hell do, and so do many others. So get with the program or get out of the way.


214 posted on 01/06/2008 9:23:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: cva66snipe

BTW, FRiend, Judas Mike is an “Independent” like Judas Jim Jeffords. He is a crooked sleazebag rodent like all the rest. In fact, he’s so deceitfully sleazy, he doesn’t even have the common courtesy to officially join the criminal party despite CAUCUSING with them.

Next up, you don’t know where I’ve visited in my own state. I’ve been in almost every county. Have you ? You have only a tenuous grasp of political history in this state, of which I’ve had to correct you many times. This isn’t 1978 and Judas Mike isn’t invincible. After next January, he can go back to cleaning toilets at Hooters.


215 posted on 01/06/2008 9:27:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: cva66snipe
IT WAS FEDERAL DOLLARS what part do you not yet understand?
Yes, it was federal dollars the state needed to fund the program. Fred's job as Tennessee Senator was to go to Washington and secure those federal dollars, and he did. I'm not going to argue the merits of TennCare itself. I'm sure it was a crappy program and was terribly mismanaged. It wouldn't have gone insolvent and kicked everyone off had it not been. But it wasn't Fred's role as elected US senator to decide the merits of the program either. It was for the governor and the state legislature. State officials, not the federal representatives. They are called representatives for a reason - because they are sent by the state to represent the state and its interests in the federal government. Period. The state had a program that for better or for worse needed federal funding. Fred was chosen by the people to go to Washington and get it. And so he did. It wasn't his constitutional role to veto the program. What part of that do you not understand? It sounds to me like you wanted Fred to act like one of those activist judges he despises and start rewriting state law by fiat. There is nothing conservative, federalist, or republican about that.

 
216 posted on 01/06/2008 9:45:30 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 Go For Brokered!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You need professional help.


217 posted on 01/06/2008 10:41:34 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Fred

It’s easy to look at Romneycare and see the bad news.

The good news is that abortion/Planned Parenthood is the poison pill which will kill any prospects for socialized medicine on a national scale.

The left will endlessly insist these be included in any program, and this insistence will ultimately prevent passage.

Electing pro-life candidates is about much more than just abortion.


218 posted on 01/06/2008 10:54:09 PM PST by judsonlegacy
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’ve been in most Tennessee counties and every state in the union except for Hawaii and Maine plus about 8 foreign nations as well. And I sure as the dickens know a lot more about this area than you ever will. BTW I knew enough politically to know the Butchers was going down months before the FDIC and feds ever raided the banks :>}

My wife's family is an old political name in Knoxville as well as co-founder's of Sevier County itself. Now go away I hear yer glorious leader is calling for you Field Marshal.

219 posted on 01/06/2008 10:57:30 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; wardaddy; GailA; Blood of Tyrants

Since you folks are some of our top TN posters, I invite you to take a look here starting with post #51. How many of you share snipers opinion of the heroism of Judas Mike Williams in siding with the rodent party ? Think I need professional help in wanting to keep back-stabbing liberal weasels out of our state government ? I’m sure he’d love to hear your opinion on the subject.


220 posted on 01/06/2008 11:04:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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