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Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided" focus group members (September 5 vs January 6)
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Posted on 01/06/2008 11:41:17 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided' focus group members

Sept 5 group

vs Jan 6 group

YOUTUBE VIDEO LINK

Fuller video of tonight's Luntz focus group


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; debate; debate2008; duncanhunter; elections; elections2008; foxnews; frankluntz; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; huckabee; hunter; johnmccain; keyes; luntz; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; nh2008; paul; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; thompson
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1 posted on 01/06/2008 11:41:18 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

That dude must be having a hard time making up his mind.


2 posted on 01/06/2008 11:44:25 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!

I absolutely guarantee he’s not the only one!!!

This needs to be EXPOSED!!!


3 posted on 01/06/2008 11:45:24 PM PST by Onerom99
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To: trumandogz

Probably needs another ten debates to make up his mind. < smirk >


4 posted on 01/06/2008 11:45:53 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: rineaux; Nephi; Revelation 911; traviskicks; Bokababe; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Duchess47; ...
Your thoughts?

:-)

5 posted on 01/06/2008 11:55:57 PM PST by incindiary (don't tax me, bro!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

There are “professional” undecideds? That seems odd.


6 posted on 01/07/2008 12:02:09 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank the debate was one sided in the number of questions given to Rudy and Fred but the majority went to Mitt, Mike and McCaniac.

Popeye, me smells a rat.

Surely Fox News would not sell out their base like McCaniac and Limply Gramnesty tried to do, Surely.

Tel me it’s not true.

7 posted on 01/07/2008 12:08:18 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

bookmark


8 posted on 01/07/2008 12:09:17 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Ha! Great catch. Fox pulls a SeeBS. Too bad , but it just proves what we already suspect.


9 posted on 01/07/2008 12:10:04 AM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for congress, Pray for our nation.)
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To: OKIEDOC
Surely Fox News would not sell out their base like McCaniac and Limply Gramnesty tried to do, Surely.

What is truly amazing is FoxNews is so arrogant in their bias and dirty tricks this campaign season like we are all idiots and cannot see it!
10 posted on 01/07/2008 12:19:40 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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bttt


11 posted on 01/07/2008 12:19:53 AM PST by Doofer
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To: SoConPubbie
I just wrote Fox News an Email outlining my concerns for the biased debate and the Frank Luntz focus group plants as exposed on FR.

Please take the time and send an Email and maybe we will get their attention.

For sure Fox is acting arrogant just as they did during the immigration debacle.

I am still pied at Fred Barnes and his condescending stupidity for buying into the amnesty sham.

12 posted on 01/07/2008 12:24:44 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

That’s ‘goatee guy’ he shows up everywhere ol’ Frank does one of his bogus polls.

I wonder how much he pays ‘goatee guy’? Let’s see if we can pick out the other paid shills in his scripted shell games.

This time his poll was scripted against Huckabee. As Penn and Teller says; F*^! ^U<! Frank!

BTW, check out the windows in the back of the room. I wonder who’s signs are those in the windows?


13 posted on 01/07/2008 12:39:46 AM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Wow, thanks....Fox News:Anything but a real conservative network.


14 posted on 01/07/2008 12:46:38 AM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: Rick_Michael; CounterCounterCulture; CourtneyLeigh

Faux News; “we distort you comply”


15 posted on 01/07/2008 12:54:17 AM PST by the irate magistrate
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I emailed this to Shawn Hannity and asked him to discuss this...

I won’t hold my breath.

16 posted on 01/07/2008 1:41:16 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Didn't catch this thread or I would have posted this here. Those "undecided" voters are self-selecting.
17 posted on 01/07/2008 2:00:40 AM PST by MitchellC (FILL THE TANK ON FRED'S PICKUP - Fred08.com)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

At least that explains why Luntz knew Chuck’s name.


18 posted on 01/07/2008 2:04:33 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Nice Catch!

I always thought Franks, dial a meter was a parlor trick anyway.

19 posted on 01/07/2008 2:15:56 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

bttt


20 posted on 01/07/2008 2:27:50 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Cross link.
21 posted on 01/07/2008 2:50:19 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: alaskamomma

What channel has the Shawn Hannity show?


22 posted on 01/07/2008 3:00:01 AM PST by AKSurprise ("Massachusetts: 10,555 Sq. Miles surrounded by reality.")
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Well the guy is probably still undecided. Why are there so many conspiracy theorists propagating to FR recently?


23 posted on 01/07/2008 3:01:20 AM PST by AKSurprise ("Massachusetts: 10,555 Sq. Miles surrounded by reality.")
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To: AKSurprise

AKSurpise: “Well the guy is probably still undecided.”

That’s sarcasm, right?


24 posted on 01/07/2008 3:08:26 AM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: CounterCounterCulture

A professional “undecided” repeatedly for Romney. What a surprise!

/sarcasm


25 posted on 01/07/2008 3:19:28 AM PST by Mojave
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To: OKIEDOC
Why blame FNC for what Luntz does? Is FNC supposed to vette all the members of the focus group assembled by Luntz?
26 posted on 01/07/2008 3:20:42 AM PST by aroundabout
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Is Fox News taking lessons from CNN on plant life?


Concerned Young Undecided Person “Journey” = John Edwards supporter “Journey”


Concerned Undecided Log Cabin Republican supporter David Cercone = Obama supporter David Cercone


Concerned Undecided Mom LeeAnn Anderson = Activist for the John Edwards-endorsing United Steelworkers union LeeAnn Anderson


Concerned Undecided Gay Military Retiree Brig. Gen. National Guard Colonel Keith H. Kerr = Hillary/Kerry supporter and anti-”Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” activist Keith H. Kerr

27 posted on 01/07/2008 3:27:43 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: CounterCounterCulture

These focus groups are nothing but shams. For Fox to engage in this sort of nonsense and allow itself to be manipulated like this is the final nail in its coffin as far as I’m concerned.


28 posted on 01/07/2008 3:38:38 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: AKSurprise

So, the guy is still undecided. Where’s the conspiracy?

Sheez, maybe I should start wearing one of those face masks while viewing FR. There seems to be a bad case of the vapors going around.


29 posted on 01/07/2008 3:41:27 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Politicalmom; rintense; silent_jonny

Ping!


30 posted on 01/07/2008 3:42:06 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Timeout
So, the guy is still undecided.

An "undecided" who got caught promoting Romney on national TV twice, months apart.

He's as phoney as Willard's alias.

31 posted on 01/07/2008 3:45:03 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Actually, in the first video, he was promoting McCain. And in the second video, he was an "undecided" who decided on Romney.

Still though, aren't these supposed to be random people in these focus groups? And is it believable that "Chuck" was still undecided, 4 months later?

Something there smells rotten, to a lot of people. It's not just Fox, people need to wake up and take everything you hear from these networks with a grain of salt. There's so much manipulation and propaganda going on.... it's a bit frightening to see, in what is supposed to be a free country.

32 posted on 01/07/2008 4:08:15 AM PST by incindiary (don't tax me, bro!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Fox is in the “Nursery Business” also?


33 posted on 01/07/2008 4:08:35 AM PST by tiredoflaundry (And so it begins............)
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To: incindiary

Perhaps I should have said McRomney.


34 posted on 01/07/2008 4:14:34 AM PST by Mojave
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To: AKSurprise
Because if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it’s probably a plant!
35 posted on 01/07/2008 4:22:37 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Fix News


36 posted on 01/07/2008 4:22:56 AM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: hsalaw

No, these are professional plants promoting a network agenda, no different than CNN.


37 posted on 01/07/2008 4:26:48 AM PST by rintense (Ab)
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To: hsalaw

I considered beign a professional undedcided when I was last looking for work, but I couldn’t make up my mind.


38 posted on 01/07/2008 4:27:55 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: Onerom99

luntz is a lib... 100% proven in Iowa debates... he is a dim and media whore (but lies about it).

LLS


39 posted on 01/07/2008 4:42:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: trumandogz

Their state mascot should be the guy in the Taco Bell drivethrough who holds up the line because he can’t make up his damned mind if he wants a taco or a burrito.


40 posted on 01/07/2008 4:50:36 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: AKSurprise
Maybe he isn't a plant, but how representative do you think that group really is if they use the same guys every time, and those people prefer the same candidate every time while remaining "undecided".

At the very least, it's a shoddy excuse for political "journalism", which wouldn't be a first for Fox.
41 posted on 01/07/2008 4:57:57 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Luntz may have a dog in the Republican race that he wants to promote, but he’s not a Democrat. He used to advise Gingrich and other Republicans, and he supposed to be the man who came up with the term “death tax” to refer to the estate tax.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 5:01:42 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Onerom99
""This needs to be EXPOSED!!!"

It just has been and it's going to take off like WILDFIRE!! :O)

43 posted on 01/07/2008 5:03:17 AM PST by Old Badger (Both houses of Congress: Clean sweep-down Fore and Aft!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m guessing that’s not him, but we did have an undecided Freeper make one of Luntz’ focus groups, and he reported that at the end Luntz said he loved what he said, and would like to have him back.

I can’t remember who it was though.


44 posted on 01/07/2008 5:18:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture

BTW, it’s not interesting that they same guy was there twice — the question is did he say he had committed by the end of the previous debate?


45 posted on 01/07/2008 5:19:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mojave

Does the september transcript show him saying he was for Romney at the end of the debate?


46 posted on 01/07/2008 5:21:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture
I nearly burst my cork when Luntz called his focus group “A sophisticated group”. These folks, idiots all, were impressed by all the wrong things (flash over substance, mostly). They were about as sophisticated as Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.
47 posted on 01/07/2008 5:23:55 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: The Pack Knight

He was for McCain last time, and now he was an undecided. Did he actually end up for Romney at the end?

Both debates were in New Hampshire, so it’s not like they brought him in from another state.

If he was articulate in the first focus group, and was undecided, Luntz would bring him back.


48 posted on 01/07/2008 5:24:04 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Awesome catch!!....the only thing he appears UNDECIDED about is whether to sit in the front or middle...lol


49 posted on 01/07/2008 5:27:40 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
This is a great example of RDS.

In november, when Luntz' focus group picked Thompson, the focus group was the best thing since sliced bread.

It's a shame how every supposedly rational view on an issue, personality, or position is now decided on a simple binary scale here -- based solely on how it relates to Fred Thompson.

50 posted on 01/07/2008 5:28:33 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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