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Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided" focus group members (September 5 vs January 6)
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Posted on 01/06/2008 11:41:17 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided' focus group members
Sept 5 group

vs Jan 6 group

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Fuller video of tonight's Luntz focus group
TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; debate; debate2008; duncanhunter; elections; elections2008; foxnews; frankluntz; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; huckabee; hunter; johnmccain; keyes; luntz; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; nh2008; paul; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; thompson
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To: CounterCounterCulture
That dude must be having a hard time making up his mind.
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posted on
01/06/2008 11:44:25 PM PST
by
trumandogz
(Hunter Thompson 2008)
To: CounterCounterCulture
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!
I absolutely guarantee he’s not the only one!!!
This needs to be EXPOSED!!!
3
posted on
01/06/2008 11:45:24 PM PST
by
Onerom99
To: trumandogz
Probably needs another ten debates to make up his mind. < smirk >
To: rineaux; Nephi; Revelation 911; traviskicks; Bokababe; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Duchess47; ...
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posted on
01/06/2008 11:55:57 PM PST
by
incindiary
(don't tax me, bro!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
There are “professional” undecideds? That seems odd.
6
posted on
01/07/2008 12:02:09 AM PST
by
hsalaw
To: CounterCounterCulture
Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank the debate was one sided in the number of questions given to Rudy and Fred but the majority went to Mitt, Mike and McCaniac.
Popeye, me smells a rat.
Surely Fox News would not sell out their base like McCaniac and Limply Gramnesty tried to do, Surely.
Tel me it’s not true.
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posted on
01/07/2008 12:08:18 AM PST
by
OKIEDOC
(Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
To: CounterCounterCulture
8
posted on
01/07/2008 12:09:17 AM PST
by
GOP Poet
To: CounterCounterCulture
Ha! Great catch. Fox pulls a SeeBS. Too bad , but it just proves what we already suspect.
9
posted on
01/07/2008 12:10:04 AM PST
by
Pajamajan
(Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for congress, Pray for our nation.)
To: OKIEDOC
Surely Fox News would not sell out their base like McCaniac and Limply Gramnesty tried to do, Surely.
What is truly amazing is FoxNews is so arrogant in their bias and dirty tricks this campaign season like we are all idiots and cannot see it!
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posted on
01/07/2008 12:19:53 AM PST
by
Doofer
To: SoConPubbie
I just wrote Fox News an Email outlining my concerns for the biased debate and the Frank Luntz focus group plants as exposed on FR.
Please take the time and send an Email and maybe we will get their attention.
For sure Fox is acting arrogant just as they did during the immigration debacle.
I am still pied at Fred Barnes and his condescending stupidity for buying into the amnesty sham.
12
posted on
01/07/2008 12:24:44 AM PST
by
OKIEDOC
(Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
To: CounterCounterCulture
That’s ‘goatee guy’ he shows up everywhere ol’ Frank does one of his bogus polls.
I wonder how much he pays ‘goatee guy’? Let’s see if we can pick out the other paid shills in his scripted shell games.
This time his poll was scripted against Huckabee. As Penn and Teller says; F*^! ^U<! Frank!
BTW, check out the windows in the back of the room. I wonder who’s signs are those in the windows?
To: CounterCounterCulture
Wow, thanks....Fox News:Anything but a real conservative network.
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posted on
01/07/2008 12:46:38 AM PST
by
Rick_Michael
(The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
To: Rick_Michael; CounterCounterCulture; CourtneyLeigh
Faux News; “we distort you comply”
To: CounterCounterCulture
I emailed this to Shawn Hannity and asked him to discuss this...
I won’t hold my breath.
To: CounterCounterCulture
Didn't catch this thread or I would have posted
this here. Those "undecided" voters are self-selecting.
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posted on
01/07/2008 2:00:40 AM PST
by
MitchellC
(FILL THE TANK ON FRED'S PICKUP - Fred08.com)
To: CounterCounterCulture
At least that explains why Luntz knew Chuck’s name.
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posted on
01/07/2008 2:04:33 AM PST
by
hocndoc
(http://www.LifeEthics.org)
To: CounterCounterCulture
Nice Catch!
I always thought Franks, dial a meter was a parlor trick anyway.
19
posted on
01/07/2008 2:15:56 AM PST
by
Kakaze
(Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
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posted on
01/07/2008 2:27:50 AM PST
by
kalee
(The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
To: CounterCounterCulture
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posted on
01/07/2008 2:50:19 AM PST
by
spunkets
("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
To: alaskamomma
What channel has the Shawn Hannity show?
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:00:01 AM PST
by
AKSurprise
("Massachusetts: 10,555 Sq. Miles surrounded by reality.")
To: CounterCounterCulture
Well the guy is probably still undecided. Why are there so many conspiracy theorists propagating to FR recently?
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:01:20 AM PST
by
AKSurprise
("Massachusetts: 10,555 Sq. Miles surrounded by reality.")
To: AKSurprise
AKSurpise: “Well the guy is probably still undecided.”
That’s sarcasm, right?
To: CounterCounterCulture
A professional “undecided” repeatedly for Romney. What a surprise!
/sarcasm
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:19:28 AM PST
by
Mojave
To: OKIEDOC
Why blame FNC for what Luntz does? Is FNC supposed to vette all the members of the focus group assembled by Luntz?
To: CounterCounterCulture
Is Fox News taking lessons from CNN on plant life?

Concerned Young Undecided Person Journey = John Edwards supporter Journey

Concerned Undecided Log Cabin Republican supporter David Cercone = Obama supporter David Cercone

Concerned Undecided Mom LeeAnn Anderson = Activist for the John Edwards-endorsing United Steelworkers union LeeAnn Anderson

Concerned Undecided Gay Military Retiree Brig. Gen. National Guard Colonel Keith H. Kerr = Hillary/Kerry supporter and anti-Dont Ask, Dont Tell activist Keith H. Kerr
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:27:43 AM PST
by
SkyPilot
To: CounterCounterCulture
These focus groups are nothing but shams. For Fox to engage in this sort of nonsense and allow itself to be manipulated like this is the final nail in its coffin as far as I’m concerned.
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:38:38 AM PST
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
(“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
To: AKSurprise
So, the guy is still undecided. Where’s the conspiracy?
Sheez, maybe I should start wearing one of those face masks while viewing FR. There seems to be a bad case of the vapors going around.
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:41:27 AM PST
by
Timeout
(I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
To: CounterCounterCulture; Politicalmom; rintense; silent_jonny
To: Timeout
So, the guy is still undecided.An "undecided" who got caught promoting Romney on national TV twice, months apart.
He's as phoney as Willard's alias.
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posted on
01/07/2008 3:45:03 AM PST
by
Mojave
To: Mojave
Actually, in the first video, he was promoting McCain. And in the second video, he was an "undecided" who decided on Romney.
Still though, aren't these supposed to be random people in these focus groups? And is it believable that "Chuck" was still undecided, 4 months later?
Something there smells rotten, to a lot of people. It's not just Fox, people need to wake up and take everything you hear from these networks with a grain of salt. There's so much manipulation and propaganda going on.... it's a bit frightening to see, in what is supposed to be a free country.
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:08:15 AM PST
by
incindiary
(don't tax me, bro!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
Fox is in the “Nursery Business” also?
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:08:35 AM PST
by
tiredoflaundry
(And so it begins............)
To: incindiary
Perhaps I should have said McRomney.
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:14:34 AM PST
by
Mojave
To: AKSurprise
Because if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it’s probably a plant!
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:22:37 AM PST
by
ishabibble
(ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
To: CounterCounterCulture
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:22:56 AM PST
by
Nephi
( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
To: hsalaw
No, these are professional plants promoting a network agenda, no different than CNN.
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:26:48 AM PST
by
rintense
(Ab)
To: hsalaw
I considered beign a professional undedcided when I was last looking for work, but I couldn’t make up my mind.
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:27:55 AM PST
by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
To: Onerom99
luntz is a lib... 100% proven in Iowa debates... he is a dim and media whore (but lies about it).
LLS
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posted on
01/07/2008 4:42:33 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
To: trumandogz
Their state mascot should be the guy in the Taco Bell drivethrough who holds up the line because he can’t make up his damned mind if he wants a taco or a burrito.
To: AKSurprise
Maybe he isn't a plant, but how representative do you think that group really is if they use the same guys every time, and those people prefer the same candidate every time while remaining "undecided".
At the very least, it's a shoddy excuse for political "journalism", which wouldn't be a first for Fox.
To: LibLieSlayer
Luntz may have a dog in the Republican race that he wants to promote, but he’s not a Democrat. He used to advise Gingrich and other Republicans, and he supposed to be the man who came up with the term “death tax” to refer to the estate tax.
To: Onerom99
"
"This needs to be EXPOSED!!!" It just has been and it's going to take off like WILDFIRE!! :O)
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posted on
01/07/2008 5:03:17 AM PST
by
Old Badger
(Both houses of Congress: Clean sweep-down Fore and Aft!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
I’m guessing that’s not him, but we did have an undecided Freeper make one of Luntz’ focus groups, and he reported that at the end Luntz said he loved what he said, and would like to have him back.
I can’t remember who it was though.
To: CounterCounterCulture
BTW, it’s not interesting that they same guy was there twice — the question is did he say he had committed by the end of the previous debate?
To: Mojave
Does the september transcript show him saying he was for Romney at the end of the debate?
To: CounterCounterCulture
I nearly burst my cork when Luntz called his focus group “A sophisticated group”. These folks, idiots all, were impressed by all the wrong things (flash over substance, mostly). They were about as sophisticated as Paris Hilton after a lobotomy.
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posted on
01/07/2008 5:23:55 AM PST
by
LIConFem
(Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
To: The Pack Knight
He was for McCain last time, and now he was an undecided. Did he actually end up for Romney at the end?
Both debates were in New Hampshire, so it’s not like they brought him in from another state.
If he was articulate in the first focus group, and was undecided, Luntz would bring him back.
To: CounterCounterCulture
Awesome catch!!....the only thing he appears UNDECIDED about is whether to sit in the front or middle...lol
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posted on
01/07/2008 5:27:40 AM PST
by
stockstrader
(We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
To: CounterCounterCulture
This is a great example of RDS.
In november, when Luntz' focus group picked Thompson, the focus group was the best thing since sliced bread.
It's a shame how every supposedly rational view on an issue, personality, or position is now decided on a simple binary scale here -- based solely on how it relates to Fred Thompson.
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