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The Fix is in for Hillary
Poe.com ^ | January 7, 2008 | Richard Lawrence Poe

Posted on 01/07/2008 3:29:17 PM PST by Richard Poe

by Richard Lawrence Poe
Monday, January 7, 2008
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FORGET IOWA. Forget New Hampshire. Forget the Democratic primaries altogether. The fix is in for Hillary Clinton. When Democrats convene this August in Denver, they will nominate Hillary as their candidate for President of the United States.

The day after Hillary’s loss in Iowa last Thursday, her campaign chief Terry McAuliffe told reporters, “Listen, Hillary is going to be the nominee. There’s no question.”

McAuliffe was not indulging in wishful thinking. He was stating a fact. He knows things the rest of us do not.

One thing McAuliffe knows is that Hillary controls a decisive majority of the Democratic Party superdelegates. The superdelegates control 42 percent of the votes needed to nominate Hillary. They may vote for whomever they wish, for any reason, and may change their minds at will. In August, they will nominate Hillary.

Democrats started the superdelegate system in 1984, to give party leaders tighter control over the nominating process.

This was partly in response to the catastrophic defeat of George McGovern, the radical, anti-war demagogue who, in 1972, lost every state in the union except Massachusetts to Richard Nixon.

To prevent such maverick candidates from winning the nomination in future, party leaders rigged the system. State delegates were no longer permitted to nominate presidential candidates on their own. Henceforth party-approved superdelegates would also cast votes.

Superdelegates are party stalwarts, Democrat officials whose loyalties favor party over state. Their number varies from one election to the next. Currently there are 852 superdelegates, including 29 state governors, 232 congressmen, 49 senators, two “shadow” or non-voting senators from the District of Columbia, and 540 Democratic Party leaders and officials of various sorts.

At this year’s Democratic Convention, 4,049 delegates will vote. Hillary must get 2,025 votes to win the nomination. This is the so-called "magic number". The 852 superdelegates total 42 percent of the magic number. In a close race, their votes could prove decisive.

At this writing, CNN reports that 257 superdelegates have already pledged their votes: of them, 154 (60 percent) have pledged for Hillary; 50 (19 percent) for Barack Obama; and 33 (13 percent) for John Edwards.

Should Hillary falter in the primaries, the superdelegates will likely come to her rescue and nominate her anyway.

The Web site 2008 Democratic Convention Watch offers updated lists of superdelegates who have and have not pledged their votes.

Of course, Hillary cannot win from superdelegate votes alone. She must get a sizeable number of state delegates as well. This presents no problem for Hillary. Her political machine is deeply entrenched in America’s urban centers. These crowded cities can overwhelm rural voters, bringing entire states into Hillary’s camp, with large numbers of delegates.

The decisive date will be February 5, dubbed Super Duper Tuesday by political pundits. Twenty-four states will hold their primaries that day.

"These states include some of our largest and most delegate-rich states, such as California, New York, Illinois, Georgia, New Jersey and others," notes Steven Hill, political reform director for the leftwing New America Foundation. "Together these two dozen states hold enough delegates to nearly decide the presidential nomination all by themselves."

Hillary is counting on that. As Steven Hill explains, "Having a single primary day with so many states... gives great advantage to those candidates with the most campaign cash and name recognition... It creates a virtual wealth primary in which new presidential faces will be quickly eliminated."

In any contest of wealth, Hillary has the advantage. Her blue-chip backers include the likes of Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, wife of Sir Evelyn de Rothschild of the famed Rothschild banking dynasty.

“I'm always doing everything I possibly can for Hillary Clinton…”, Her Ladyship told Portfolio magazine. “I have been waiting for this since Bill Clinton left office, frankly.”

Married November 30, 2000, Lady de Rothschild spent her wedding night in the Clinton White House.

OpenSecrets.org reports that Hillary has raised $90.9 million, only slightly higher than Obama’s $80.3 million.

However, most of Hillary’s money is off the books. No one knows how many millions Hillary has laundered through George Soros’ “Shadow Party”, a network of Democrat front groups masquerading as non-partisan charities. These include Fund for America, the Democracy Alliance, America Votes and Media Matters for America, among others.

Republicans need to stop gloating over Hillary's every misstep and see the big picture. Hillary has the money, the machine, and the support of global financial elites. Unless we can muster a counterforce of similar strength, Hillary will win the nomination and the presidency.

Richard Lawrence Poe Richard Lawrence Poe is a contributing editor to Newsmax, an award-winning journalist and a New York Times bestselling author. His latest book is The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Siezed Control of the Democratic Party, co-written with David Horowitz.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratics; hillary; hillaryclinton; shadowparty; soros; superdelegates
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1 posted on 01/07/2008 3:29:17 PM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

We should have a contest, pick the date the story calling Hillary the come back kid is written. I’ll go with Feb 1.


2 posted on 01/07/2008 3:31:08 PM PST by DManA
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To: Richard Poe
You are correct, but I couldn't resist posting this anyway:


3 posted on 01/07/2008 3:31:43 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Richard Poe
Hillery is FIXED as the in?

Sorry babe, this is a democracy. And a fix in this primary would make the Chicago Democrat Convention of 1968 look like child's play.

There will be no fix. If Hillery wants the nomination, she will have to win it. George Soros has spoken. Terry can't upside Soros. No way.

4 posted on 01/07/2008 3:33:37 PM PST by Candor7 (Background on Muslim Infiltration of the Pentagon, this is SERIES!)
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To: Richard Poe

If she continues running 3rd in the various states, even with Super Delegates, the DNC will find way to drop her. If she can’t win primaries, she certainly can’t win the National.


5 posted on 01/07/2008 3:33:55 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Richard Poe

Superdelegates are Hillary’s secret weapon that nobody talks about.

Her opposition would have to win an overwhelming majority of elected delegates to take her out.


6 posted on 01/07/2008 3:34:48 PM PST by Nextrush (NO WAY MCCAIN but I remain uncommitted.)
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To: Richard Poe

All true EXCEPT if Hilary loses big in the primaries it will be difficult for the super delegates to nominate her. It would turn off a lot of the party base to get the candidate they clearly didn’t want.


7 posted on 01/07/2008 3:35:16 PM PST by Williams
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To: Richard Poe
The superdelegates control 42 percent of the votes needed to nominate Hillary. They may vote for whomever they wish, for any reason, and may change their minds at will. In August, they will nominate Hillary.

If this human toilet hillary is the dem candidate, she'll lose the general election by a larger margin then Kerry's loss to Bush in '04.

8 posted on 01/07/2008 3:39:15 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: Richard Poe

The super delegates were before the coronation collapse. When the nut-roots finds out, everything is off.


9 posted on 01/07/2008 3:40:28 PM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Richard Poe

We’ve been having a discussion about this, Richard. It Obama beats her in big enough numbers, I suspect there will be great pressure on the super delegates to jump ship. The pressure, threats, and bribery from the Clintonistas on them must be intense behind the scenes. If Obama looks like he will deserve the nomination, but the Clintonistas stand in the way, there will be warfare by the Dem’s black base.


10 posted on 01/07/2008 3:41:12 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Richard Poe

“Should Hillary falter in the primaries, the superdelegates will likely come to her rescue and nominate her anyway.”

Not a chance. If Obama is visibly robbed, the nomination won’t be worth anything.


11 posted on 01/07/2008 3:43:36 PM PST by devere
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To: DManA

I pick Feb 6th the day after the primaries.


12 posted on 01/07/2008 3:44:55 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Williams

I believe the supuerdelegates are required to vote as pledged on the first ballot; this system could conceivably yield the Dems a candidate they hate. Can’t make up my mind what Dem nominee scenario is the most appealing; I just hope the Republicans can pull together behind someone who will stand for core conservative principles.


13 posted on 01/07/2008 3:45:26 PM PST by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Richard Poe

Is Osamabama coming down with a lethal case of Arkancide?


14 posted on 01/07/2008 3:45:30 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: doug from upland

So what states does Hillary lose on February 5, Super Tuesday?
If she wins a few big ones even by small majorities, I think she is in. Will Edwards still be in the race on February 5?


15 posted on 01/07/2008 3:46:03 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Tarpon

A lot of the Super Delegates will be running in Nov also. They’d have some ‘splainin to do to their constituents to keep their jobs


16 posted on 01/07/2008 3:48:01 PM PST by digger48
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To: Maine Mariner

These are proportional primaries — not winner take all. Each of them will get some delegates. I don’t know which states she loses, but she is now apparently up by only 4% nationally.


17 posted on 01/07/2008 3:48:10 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Williams
All true EXCEPT if Hilary loses big in the primaries it will be difficult for the super delegates to nominate her. It would turn off a lot of the party base to get the candidate they clearly didn’t want.

That's part of the key. The other part is contributions. She has a lot of cash, but will need to maintain a healthy contribution level. If the money boys start to bolt, then look out. There's nothing cast in stone that these super-delegates HAVE to cast their vote as pledged.

18 posted on 01/07/2008 3:49:13 PM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: Richard Poe
Sure she will. She just has to win one primary first, to show she is electable. Coming in second doesn't cut it. Hillary has to show she has the goods. It won't matter if Obama should win primary after primary by double-digit blow-out margins. Then Hillary would forced to deny the nomination to a black man favored by the majority of Democrats. Keep him down cause its MY turn. Yeah, right.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 01/07/2008 3:50:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Richard Poe

You must know how the Democrat Party machine works - there’s a dude from Illinois that it wants to run over.


20 posted on 01/07/2008 3:50:33 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Richard Poe

Looks to me like we win either way. If Her Thighness mounts a coup, the nutroots stay home or vote for a third party crackpot. If Obama wins, google the “David Dinkins effect.”


21 posted on 01/07/2008 3:50:40 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Richard Poe; DManA

Clarity. This entire campaign is nothin gbut street theater. She Who Must Not Be Named is the presumptive heir to the nomination.

As for the “comeback kid” article, I say Feb 6th - The new GroundHog Day, where She will see Her shadow and Amerika will have four years of winter.


22 posted on 01/07/2008 3:51:35 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Richard Poe

The flaw in this is if she loses the primary vote by a large margin. The RATs will have to jettison all their push for popular vote over electoral college in order to annoint Toonette. Once again, we’ll have the coattails of death.


23 posted on 01/07/2008 3:51:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Hillary ... a product whose sell-by date has passed" (OMG, I'm quoting Shrum))
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To: doug from upland

your scenario would be ideal for us in my opinion.


24 posted on 01/07/2008 3:52:23 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Richard Poe

Nah. She’s gonna get Obamasized! LOL!


25 posted on 01/07/2008 3:53:01 PM PST by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: DManA

Spread it around.....THE FIX IS IN....HILLARY is the NOMINEE....NO MATTER WHAT!!! Obama has NO...NADA...ZERO CHANCE!! It’;s all just a FIXED GAME by the Clintons!! PASS IT ON!!!


26 posted on 01/07/2008 3:53:07 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Richard Poe

Soros has been donating to Obama, too.


27 posted on 01/07/2008 3:53:31 PM PST by Eva
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To: Richard Poe

Great analysis, as far as it goes. It does not discuss (because the topic is another article in itself) how blacks in the dem base will feel if their clearly strong candidate is “robbed” by smoke-filled room white party operatives. The “sit out” factor in the general is not to be overlooked given this scenario. Thanks for the more detailed information on the Super Delegates.


28 posted on 01/07/2008 3:54:43 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: Richard Poe

good for us.


29 posted on 01/07/2008 3:54:45 PM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Richard Poe
Hello? If the "superdelagates" see that the Commodities Scam Queen can't even get 40% of the votes in a Democratic Party Primary, they're not going to be so stupid as to think she'll poll over 50% against a Republican in November.

ML/NJ

30 posted on 01/07/2008 3:54:53 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Richard Poe
The best scenario would be for the supers to push The Evil One over the top. Obama supporters would be so incredibly pissed that they will not show up to vote on election day.
31 posted on 01/07/2008 3:55:06 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: NonValueAdded

The final two sentences of Poe’s article says it all.
I am still very worried; the attack ads on Obama and Edwards start the day after tomorrow.


32 posted on 01/07/2008 3:55:14 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Richard Poe
Pinch me!

This is setting up for my dream scenario.

Hillary strong arms the nomination away from Obama, the rightful victor, and she does so in such a ham handed manner that she is irreparably damaged going into the general election.

33 posted on 01/07/2008 3:55:26 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Richard Poe

I’m betting the ticket will be Hill/Bama. If not, then Bama/Hill. Either way, she WILL be on the ticket.


34 posted on 01/07/2008 3:55:40 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: doug from upland
Hillary won't allow democratic niceties or a black man to stand in her way. She is prepared to destroy the Democratic Party to win the nomination.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 01/07/2008 3:56:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Richard Poe

Good. Anybody that get the party nomination through machinations while losing most of the states will horribly alienate their party’s base and get their asses kicked in the general.


36 posted on 01/07/2008 3:57:03 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: Humble Servant
I believe the super-delegates are required to vote as pledged on the first ballot; this system could conceivably yield the Dems a candidate they hate.

It would be the first and last Democrat convention in the 21st Century.

Some kind of weird new unrecognizable party would emerge after the agonizing death of the old one.


37 posted on 01/07/2008 3:57:13 PM PST by henbane
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To: TomGuy

Great point.


38 posted on 01/07/2008 3:57:49 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: Richard Poe

This would be a plausible scenario if Obama were not black. If the Dems took away the nomination from Barack thru Super Delegates, they would lose the black vote for a generation.


39 posted on 01/07/2008 3:58:38 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: Richard Poe
If Obama wins a clear victory in the primaries the DNC would be reckless to fix the nomination for Clinton. A majority of Democrat voters would suddenly realize they had been disenfranchised from the process. Rank-and-file African Americans, no matter who they voted for, would scream “racism” and bolt the party. The international community, whose opinion Democrats say is important, would condemn the nomination as a fraud. A huge write-in campaign would begin for Obama, rupturing the Democrat party and probably assuring a Republican victory.
40 posted on 01/07/2008 3:59:36 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Richard Poe

Hey that’s alot of good info and links packed in there. Thanks. My comment: Maybe the Republicans need a superdelegate system too to prevent populist radicals from winning the nomination? Thoughts all?


41 posted on 01/07/2008 3:59:41 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Richard Poe
Democrats started the superdelegate system in 1984, to give party leaders tighter control over the nominating process.

Just like the Politburo.


42 posted on 01/07/2008 3:59:52 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Candor7
And a fix in this primary would make the Chicago Democrat Convention of 1968 look like child's play.

Visions of truther nuts dance in my head.

43 posted on 01/07/2008 4:00:49 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: ImpBill

Don’t know if it will go that far, but I do have a feeling that the Empire is about to Strike Back.


44 posted on 01/07/2008 4:02:02 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: Cedric
Totally agree. Let her burn her own to climb to the nomination for the rats. In doing so, she will leave such a stench that she couldn't be elected dogcatcher...

My only concern is if she has a 2nd ace up her sleeve for the nationals. The rats are not above breaking the law to win. Remember their motto: "The end justifies the means.". They want to win at any cost. We need to be prepared to go to the mattresses on this if fraud is evident...

45 posted on 01/07/2008 4:02:44 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (In the land of Clinton, where the shadows lie...)
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To: Richard Poe

You are right. She is not out yet, they will not go quietly. Clintonistas don’t care what the base thinks as long as it means winning, the base will hold their nose and vote for her. All the overconfidence on other threads makes me nervous, we should not be underestimate the Clinton machine.


46 posted on 01/07/2008 4:03:19 PM PST by bayareablues
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To: Richard Poe

Bookmarking.


47 posted on 01/07/2008 4:03:44 PM PST by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

In advance of the big day, I recommend all Hitlery and Bubba’s corruption be readied for exposure. Then, we can enjoy a weekly or daily dose detailing the demise of all their room temperature associates and illegal campaign finances. Get out the popcorn.


48 posted on 01/07/2008 4:04:26 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: goldstategop

I compared it earlier to Saddam Hussein setting fires to the oil wells. If she can’t have it, there is no more vidictive politician.


49 posted on 01/07/2008 4:04:47 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Richard Poe

That is fine. It will be easier for the Repubs to deal with her baggage than fighting the Osama Obama race card.


50 posted on 01/07/2008 4:06:10 PM PST by KeyLargo
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