Confirmed: The Huckabee Immigration Plan Does Not Have A Touchback Provision In It

Right Wing News ^ | December 21, 2007 | John Hawkins

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

I don’t agree with the end of that video, which says that Ron Paul is the only one whose votes match his position. What about Hunter? Did you see the end of the video?

[Laptop_Ron]

Guess it comes down to what he says now as opposed to what he did then.

Personally, I don’t trust the guy. That was my first instinct and everything that’s come out about him has only reinforced that.

I think that once President Huckabee is elected, our Democrat congress immediately starts another amnesty bill and Huckabee happily signs it. Since nobody really knows what he’d do, I’ll have to stick with that guess.

[kabar]

Propose to provide all illegal immigrants a 120-day window to register with the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services and leave the country. Those who register and return to their home country will face no penalty if they later apply to immigrate or visit; those who do not return home will be, when caught, barred from future reentry for a period of 10 years.

What is the purpose of registering? What would be the motivation for them to go home? This is a touchback scam.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>It is the Pence plan.<<

That’s what I thought when I heard what he said. It’s possible that his comment on Fox New Sunday was misunderstood, but it certainly sounds bad.

[rurgan]

Borderline criminal in my opinion.

I agree, proof:

Freepers are doing a good job exposing the Huckster's true atrocious record on illegal immigration. Please keep posting links and feel free to use any links in this post. The Huckster has to be stopped because I don't want to live life , starving in a 3rd world socialist state.

Huckabee is not only for Amnesty for illegals but also he is for chain Amnesty .

Huckabee will give Amnesty to 30 million illegals and then allow those 30 million to bring to the U.S. 100 million of their relatives . That would turn America into a 3rd world socialist hell hole. Who cares if this Huckster says he is a Christian and says he is pro-life when he will destroy America and what’s left of the Republican party?

Huckabee is not only for Amnesty but for chain Amnesty. What does it matter that the Huckster says he is a good Christian and pro-life when Huckabee will turn the U.S,. into a socialist state where we will all be starving?

Mike Huckabee is a socialist/liberal, pro-Amnesty, pro-illegal immigrant, tax-raising, false prophet. Someone should tell Huckabee and the Democrats that socialism doesn't work. Look at the U.S. government schools, USSR, Cuba, N Korea, Eastern Europe as examples that show socialism doesn't work.

Mike Huckabee. The Socialist From Arakansas. CofCC.org Newa Team

(by Kyle Rogers)

The NEA is a radical left wing teachers association. They aggressively oppose homeschooling, are hostile to parochial schools, and advocate federalizing the curriculum of all public schools. As Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee passed a law that added major restrictions to the Arakansas Homeschool Rights Act passed by Bill Clinton, making Arkansas one of the most hostile state to homeschoolers outside of the Northeast. Homeschoolers in Arkansas had more rights when Clinton left office than when Huckabee left office.

Was Mike Huckabee “just like Bill Clinton?” Maybe, but some would actually say he was to the left of Bill Clinton. As Governor of Arkansas, Huckabee’s tax and spend record greatly exceeded former AR Gov. Bill Clinton. He even wanted to tax the internet.

Mike Huckabee is to the left of even Sam Brownback and John McCain on immigration. He claimed God wants us to give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. As Governor of Arkansas he advocated letting illegal aliens vote.

While Huckabee is now lying and saying he is dedicated to fighting illegal immigration, his record is clear.

Fact #1. As Governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee denounced an immigration bill (Arkansas Senate Bill 206) that “would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and would have required state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally.” (Doug Thompson, “Immigration Bill un-Christian..governor says”Arkansas News Bureau 1/28/05)

Fact #2. As Governor, Mike Huckabee offered a proposal to give state funded scholarships and state benefits to illegal aliens. (Laura Kellams, “Huckabee Plan would give aid to illegal aliens” Arkansas Democrat Gazette 1/12/2005)

Fact #3. Governor Huckabee supported the McCain-Kennedy Senate Amnesty bill for illegal aliens. Huckabee claims to know God’s position on the Amnesty Bill, and that God supports it. Huckabee has repeated called opponents of illegal immigration “racists” and/or “bigots.” Read Article. , Read Article #2

Fact #4. Governor Huckabee refuses to sign the “No Amnesty Pledge”.

Huckabee Begs For New Taxes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4

Huckabee Caught Lying About His Tax Hikes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYrGlfkvRV0&feature=related

Huckabee is a pro-illegal, pro-Amnesty, tax raising, big government loving, socialist/liberal, violent criminal pardoning, terrorist appeasing, false prophet. In other words Huckabee is really a Democrat.

Under no circumstances will I ever vote for this liberal/communist con man.

The Huckster Huckabee or Hillary will let in hundreds of millions of 3rd world socialist illegals.

The Huckster or Hillary will surrender to Iran and let Iran build a nuclear arsenal.

The Huckster or Hillary will raise taxes and increase the size of government putting the U.S. on the road to socialism which will destroy our way of life, destroy our economy, destroy our civilization.

If you think I'm exaggerating look at Huckabee's record and into the dangers of socialism.

But hey , the idiot Huckster lies and says he is pro-life so that makes all of this ok huh? P> Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration

http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”..

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...

http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html

Huckabee’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html

Chuck the Huck and deport this traitor:

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>I think that once President Huckabee is elected, our Democrat congress immediately starts another amnesty bill and Huckabee happily signs it. Since nobody really knows what he’d do, I’ll have to stick with that guess.<<

Bush also said that he opposed “amnesty.” I really don’t want the next POTUS to be another amnesty RINO.

[3AngelaD]

Yes, you are right. I saw the end of the video. I have been on the Hunter bandwagon forever. And I have another foot poised on the running board of the Thompson wagon. I posted that link so people could see the slipperiness of it all. Hunter has been right on the immigration issue for years and years and years.

[dforest]

He isn’t going to make these people go back to their home country and touchback. He will let them go to the nearest soil of their home country. Down the street.

Which they won’t anyway.

[Laptop_Ron]

You’re right. Let me amend my post:

“...congress immediately starts another bill that looks an awful lot like amnesty and Huckabee happily signs it.”

LOL

[SatinDoll]

Hey, ding dong daddy —

I really believe Huckabee will say anything to get elected.

And he thinks he has the ability to change our immigration policy by the presidential equivalent of the laying on of hands: this would be hysterically funny if not for the fact of it’s wrong.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>His quote is “if we can get approved by American Express for a credit card over the phone, why does it take years for the government to process an application” to come into the country legally?<<

That sounds a little naive. Making bureaucrats more efficient is a good idea, but we don’t want to be in such a hurry that we grant visas to the next 9/11 conspirators. I believe that our visa system is really too loose as it is. It does not even track when, or if, a visa holder leaves the country.

[horse_doc]

I appreciate your willingness to get to the bottom of Huckabee's immigration views.

But he still hasn't explained why he called fellow Baptist pastor Jim Holt's bill to deny public services to illegals "demogoguery" and "race-baiting".

This was the same thing as sending Michael Chertoff out to call us all bigots, for not supporting the last fiasco.

[Kellis91789]

If this is really his position, then he doesn’t understand the contradictions.

The process of returning home, applying, waiting for a background check, then waiting behind all the other people ahead of them CANNOT take a few days.

We have limits on how many immigrants we’ll accept from any particular country for a reason. They need time to assimilate. So if the limit is 500,000 legal immigrants per year, and there are 5 million people waiting to immigrate, that’s a ten year wait, even after the background check has verified they aren’t criminals.

There are only two ways to do it so it would only take a few days: 1) those illegals go to the front of the line, which is obviously unfair to those already waiting for legal entrance; 2) remove all limits to legal immigration, which is a bad idea and doesn’t provide time for assimilation.

The years-long waiting period is a GOOD thing. It ensures people are really sincere about wanting to be US citizens, and it allows limited manpower in ICE to do a thorough background check. If Huckabee thinks you can check someone’s fingerprints, mugshot databases, and criminal wanted lists, etc. all around the world in a few weeks, he is uninformed. If you only check the country where the person claims to be a citizen, then you are relying on the ID system of that one country. I wouldn’t trust any country to have an incorruptible system of identification. I’m certain in Mexico you could buy fake papers saying you are Juan Valdez even easier than you could here in the US. All you would know is who they CLAIM to be, not who they ARE.

[kabar]

He wants to make it quicker for immigrants to find out the status of their application than it takes today. This would allow for them to come back, if they meet muster, legally in a more expeditious manner than the current process would allow.

The "problem" with immigration has less to do with the speed with which applications are processed and more to do with the numbers and conditions that must be met to come here legally. We already take in over a million people a year legally, more than the rest of the world combined. Due to various number caps on certain immigration categories, intending immigrants with all of the paperwork processed can wait three to ten years or more before their number comes up. Is Huckabee suggesting that we increase the number of legal immigrants that we take in?

This is not a process problem, it is a numbers problem. There are more than three million intending immigrants waiting overseas for their number to come up. If Huckabee thinks that adding 12 to 20 million people to the "back of the line" can be addressed by improved processing, he doesn't understand the issue.

And then there is the question of how many of the 12 to 20 million can meet the standards of entry back into the United States. Many of them couldn't even qualify for a tourist visa. And the vast majority of them are not only guilty of breaking our laws by entering our country, they have also committed ID theft, tax evasion, missuse of SS numbers, and petty crimes. There are over 600,000 illegals who have gone through all of the deportation hearings and ordered deported, but they failed to show up to be deported and are on the loose in the country. What happens to them. Finally, there are an estimated 2 million illegally alien felons who need to be rounded up.

We don't need more legal immigrants, we need less. Huckabee is just changing his position once again the same way he was for eliminating birthright citizenship and then recanting a few days later.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

>>The process of returning home, applying, waiting for a background check, then waiting behind all the other people ahead of them CANNOT take a few days.<<

That’s what I have been saying. The premise of the article (which we don’t have to agree with) is that he was talking about legal immigrants, not illegals.

But even if I accept that premise, I agree with you that the idea that it should be done in weeks is both unrealistic and dangerous.

[wastedpotential]

He was never quoted anywhere as saying he was against birthright citizenship.

[Kellis91789]

Great minds think alike. You and I posted essentially the same complaints just 1 second apart !

BTW, I am tired of people — including most of the candidates — claiming it would be “impossible” to deport 12 million illegal aliens. It might be draconian, but it is certainly possible.

There half a million law enforcement officers in this country. If they were paid a $1000 bonus for each illegal alien apprehended, I don’t think it would take more than a year to deport 12 million illegals. Actually, I think it is closer to 25 million, but I still think a year would be enough as self-deportation would be happening as well.

So for the pittance of $12B to $25B, we could eliminate all the costs associated with illegal aliens and return to a country that believes in law and order.

[Laptop_Ron]

Yes, that “impossible to deport 12 million (notice everyone stopped using the 12-20 million number?)illegals” is really annoying.

What they forget is that no pro-enforcement person I’ve heard has ever said we would try.

Build and patrol a border fence, crack down on employers and go after the places with large numbers of illegals. Most of the rest will go voluntarily.

Who knows? They might migrate to Canada like some already did (and boy were those Canadians pi$$ed!).

[Dagnabitt]

Based on his record, it would be hard to trust Huck on this new enforcement stance.

That said, it may well be a Huck v. McCain race soon - and while there is some chance Huck won’t sign an amnesty bill, McCryptKeeper is a certain signer.

On the other, both are likely general-election losers, so who cares?

[Hoffer Rand]

For me, the most telling line is “I now believe that the only thing the American people are going to accept —”

Read that, his handlers and focus groups told him that if he didn’t toughen up his verbiage on illegals, he had no chance at all of being a contender. And I don’t think he’s changed his position, just his verbiage. It’s unfortunate so many are allowing themselves to be persuaded.

Best predictor of future actions is past actions.