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US to send 3,000 Marines to Afghanistan
AP ^ | 01/10/08 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 01/09/2008 4:27:36 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

US to send 3,000 Marines to Afghanistan

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer

25 minutes ago

The Pentagon is preparing to send at least 3,000 Marines to Afghanistan in April to bolster efforts to hold off another expected Taliban offensive in the spring, military officials said Wednesday.

The move represents a shift in Pentagon thinking that has been slowly developing after months of repeated insistence that the U.S. was not inclined to fill the need for as many as 7,500 more troops that commanders have asked for there. Instead, Defense Secretary Robert Gates pressed NATO allies to contribute the extra forces.

Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said Wednesday that a proposal will go before Gates on Friday that would send a ground and air Marine contingent as well as a Marine battalion — together totaling more than 3,000 forces — to southern Afghanistan for a "one-time, seven-month deployment."

Gates, he said, will want to review the request, and is not likely to make a final decision on Friday.

"He will take it and consider it thoroughly before approving it," said Morrell. "I just want to get people away from the idea that this is going to be imminently approved by the secretary."

He said Gates "has some more thinking to do on this matter because it's a serious allocation of forces."

Morrell added that Gates' thinking on the issue has "progressed a bit" over time as it became clear that it was politically untenable for many of the NATO nations to contribute more combat troops to the fight.

"The commanders need more forces there. Our allies are not in the position to provide them. So we are now looking at perhaps carrying a bit of that additional load," the spokesman said.

Morrell said the move, first reported Wednesday by ABC News, was aimed at beating back "another Taliban offensive" that is expected this spring — as has occurred in previous years.

When Gates was in Afghanistan last month, commanders made it clear they needed the additional forces.

Last year was the most violent since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. The number of attacks has surged, including roadside bombings and suicide assaults.

Currently there are about 27,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, including 14,000 with the NATO-led coalition. The other 13,000 U.S. troops are training the Afghan forces and hunting al-Qaida terrorists.

Morrell said that while the Marine ground and air contingent would be put in place to prevent a spring Taliban offensive, the Marine battalion likely would be used to train Afghan forces.

The shift in U.S. thinking on sending more combat forces to Afghanistan has appeared inevitable in recent weeks, based on the political realities in many of the NATO nations.

In meeting after meeting during his Afghanistan visit in early December, Gates heard pleas from both Afghan and U.S. military leaders for up to 7,500 more forces, with about half needed for training.

About a week later, Gates was asked by a reporter after a NATO meeting in Scotland whether the Bush administration was considering sending more troops to Afghanistan, in the event that the shortfalls are not bridged by NATO allies. Gates replied, "Not in the short term."

But by Dec. 21, Gates acknowledged during a press briefing that the Pentagon would "be looking at the requirement ourselves."

Bush administration officials pressed NATO allies for months to fill gaps in troops levels in Afghanistan, but many allied governments face public opposition to deeper involvement there.

Gates said at the Scotland meeting that the administration had decided to tone down its appeals to allies, taking into account "political realities" faced by some European governments whose citizens may see less reason to intervene in Afghanistan.

The Bush administration has launched a wide-ranging review of its policy in Afghanistan to ensure that gains made since the radical Islamist Taliban regime was ousted in 2001 are not lost and to bolster Afghan President Hamid Karzai's nascent government.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; deployment; marine; marines; oef; rotation
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1 posted on 01/09/2008 4:27:38 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SandRat

ping


2 posted on 01/09/2008 4:29:38 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

God Bless all of them.


3 posted on 01/09/2008 4:30:59 PM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Nothing on DefenseLink or Joint Task Force 82 web sites about this.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 4:31:15 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Afghanistan is Nato controlled, why US Marines?


5 posted on 01/09/2008 4:34:22 PM PST by edcoil
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The Pentagon is preparing to send at least 3,000 Marines to Afghanistan in April to bolster efforts to hold off another expected Taliban offensive in the spring, military officials said Wednesday

When General Conway asked that the Marines take over Afghanistan a few months ago his idea was shot down by Gates. A year from now there will be 40,000 Marines in country. (who knows best)

6 posted on 01/09/2008 4:38:15 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: edcoil
Afghanistan is Nato controlled, why US Marines?

Because it'd take 300,000 from any other country to do the job that 3,000 marines can do?

They'll eat the terrorists and crap "peace". ; )

Here's to praying for a safe and successful mission and triumphant return.

7 posted on 01/09/2008 4:39:49 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: edcoil

Probably because most NATO forces, except Britain and Commowealth, aren’t engaged in actual fighting. Namely the Germans, the Italians, French etc. are sitting around and give only half hearted non-combat support. Someone has to eliminate the Taliban... why not the professionals?


8 posted on 01/09/2008 4:42:41 PM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: edcoil
Afghanistan is Nato controlled, why US Marines?

More than half the troops in Afghanistan are US today and more to come. Only the Brits, Aussies, Dutch, Canadians and US are pulling their weight. Maybe with Sarko running France they will get into the fight.
There are Marines there now.

9 posted on 01/09/2008 4:42:47 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Recon Dad

I think we need to replace the Canadians in the south. They are always talking of leaving because of the casualties and politics back home. I like the Canadian effort and all but we need a stronger presence in the south.


10 posted on 01/09/2008 4:51:23 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: SolidWood
You know the one’s that piss me off the most are the Koreans, well there are others but let’s start with the Koreans.
Their supposed to be good, we saved their asses when they were about to lose their country and everything they enjoy today probably results from the sacrifice made for them.
11 posted on 01/09/2008 4:55:23 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Recon Dad

You have a right to be pissed off at anyone you like Recon dad. Your son is keeping cowards safe.


12 posted on 01/09/2008 4:58:22 PM PST by lookout88 (proud special forces dad.)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
The Brits are the biggest presence in the south and are doing a great job, but they could use more help. I would think the Marines will head to Helmand or Kandahar.
Good bless the Canadians they’re doing a great job.
13 posted on 01/09/2008 4:59:44 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Get some !


14 posted on 01/09/2008 5:00:26 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Recon Dad

True. But I’m more dissapointed by the NATO Euro-countries.
S-Korea at least is not in NATO and therefore are not legally as much obliged to assist us... but the French, Germans and Italians are. And they are doing close to NOTHING.


15 posted on 01/09/2008 5:00:49 PM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: lookout88

He is just getting back from Southern Afghanistan and I can’t wait till the end of the month to talk to he and the others on his team about their experiences. I’m just a father, but my wife and I had to live through every day of this deployment. It was a tough one.


16 posted on 01/09/2008 5:02:57 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: SolidWood
That’s why I left the door open for other criticism. The Germans won’t fly choppers at night and spend their time drinking in their beer hall up North. The Italians and the Spanish are worthless. Some of the Eastern European countries have been there but with extremely small contingents.
17 posted on 01/09/2008 5:06:48 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: bray

Tried to tell you last year.


18 posted on 01/09/2008 5:07:50 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Caipirabob
My future son in law is just back from Afcrapistan. He is a Marine and his take on it is not good. The cities and bigger towns are under Government control. The countryside is the wild wild west.
19 posted on 01/09/2008 5:09:49 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("Has there been a code nine? Have you heard from the Doctor?")
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To: Recon Dad

I am glad you will get some relief. My son is a PJ. I barely know what he does, but I am glad he will be home soon for a while. Bless your fine family, and your brave son.


20 posted on 01/09/2008 5:14:20 PM PST by lookout88 (proud special forces dad.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A never-ending supply of illiterate opium farmers.


21 posted on 01/09/2008 5:16:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: lookout88
Please excuse my stupidity, what is a PJ?
22 posted on 01/09/2008 5:17:14 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Recon Dad

AF search and rescue


23 posted on 01/09/2008 5:18:05 PM PST by lookout88 (proud special forces dad.)
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To: lookout88
Thank you, impressive group of hero's. Please thank him for his service. We are lucky in this country to have people like your son.
24 posted on 01/09/2008 5:31:03 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; ...

25 posted on 01/09/2008 5:46:18 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: edcoil; freema
"Afghanistan is Nato controlled, why US Marines?"
Very good point. The Marine Corps. continues to be stretched, as it is forced to take on non-traditional roles.
26 posted on 01/09/2008 6:03:33 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Recon Dad

The US sends an additional Battalion sized Infantry unit to Afghanistan every year to beef up forces during the start of the fighting season. The last several years these additional forces have come from the 82nd. This year its the marines turn.


27 posted on 01/09/2008 6:08:28 PM PST by voodoo54
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To: TigerLikesRooster
We should start a legal defense fund for all the new cases that JAG and NCIS will come up with showing civilians killed by Marines.

Now if they can just get an Army Colonel to send them all home after the first ambush, this will be a real short deployment and everyone will be home for Christmas.

28 posted on 01/09/2008 6:19:16 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Marine_Uncle; All

I know we cannot ask the russians. I saw a special on tv last week on the killing and raping they did when they were there during the war.

i had no idea since the media never covered it but the russians using their helicopters to mow down cities, children, hell everything — was horrific.


29 posted on 01/09/2008 6:19:38 PM PST by edcoil
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The Taliban is toast now. Ooh rah Marines, Semper Fi.
30 posted on 01/09/2008 6:42:22 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
The Marine Corps. continues to be stretched, as it is forced to take on non-traditional roles.

"Marine: relating to the sea or ocean"

By this logic, here's a 21st-Century "Marine Biologist":

Or, perhaps this...?

31 posted on 01/09/2008 11:38:56 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: edcoil

US Marines are the only ones left with any of the 7.62x51 rifles that are far more effective. The Marines “found” the M-14s that they “lost” under Clinton when the Presidential order came down to destroy them.


32 posted on 01/10/2008 1:21:26 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
My future son in law is just back from Afcrapistan. He is a Marine and his take on it is not good. The cities and bigger towns are under Government control. The countryside is the wild wild west.

Prayers for his safety.

If the people of Afghanistink want freedom, they are going to have to learn how to fight for it at a societal level. I don't think it's a lesson they can learn in less than a generation.

I admire President Bush's vision of a new ME, but we need help and we can't do the job alone. Sadly, it seems the leftists worldwide want chaos to rule there. Does not bode well for the future.

33 posted on 01/10/2008 1:21:29 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hopefully this time we kill them instead of playing catch and release at Musharraf’s insistance.


34 posted on 01/10/2008 1:27:16 AM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Caipirabob
I will pass on your good thoughts.

This young man already did nine months in Iraq. Was wounded three time and received two medals for valor. They lost 12 Marines out of his company and had another 22 wounded. Suffered about 30 IED's and killed about 120 insurgents. The best praise I gave him though was for throwing a NY Times reporter out of his HumVee and telling him it was time to walk. Reporter changed his tune very quickly.

35 posted on 01/10/2008 7:47:11 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Hillary cried, New Hampshire died.)
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To: edcoil
Yes the Russians where brutal. Even Hollywood picked up on the fact. IMHO, the fact is the Marine Corps., is being given new roles, more traditionally carried out by our Army Special Forces supported by regular Army units and of course our Air force in support roles as required.
The Marine Corps., as we understand is the smallest branch both by head count as well as budget.
The pros and cons are to numerous to go into, and I lack the ability to speak with clarity on these issues.
So I will leave it go at that.
As for the Russians military capabilities at present. I have a strong hunch they are very understaffed and underpayed.
They had gone into a period of decline. Now of course with the new found wealth in gas/oil, this condition will certainly change.
36 posted on 01/10/2008 4:44:08 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Gondring
First pic. What's she doing? Twisting the beast's head off.
Second pic. I'll gently kiss her upon her forehead then stand at attention and salute her.
37 posted on 01/10/2008 5:30:23 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Marine_Uncle
First pic. What's she doing? Twisting the beast's head off.

I think you're likely wrong in that assessment. :-)

woman in field with sheep
Jeremy Foster RAMP/Afghanistan
After Fareba Miriam graduates from para-veterinarian training she will have the necessary skills to manage her own Veterinary Field Unit.

Here's a snippet of the article...

In March 2006, Fareba Miriam became the first woman to enroll in the para-vet training program sponsored by the United States Agency for International Development’s (USAID) Rebuilding Agricultural Markets Program (RAMP). She learned about the para-vet training when she was teaching geography at a high school in Faizabad, Badakshan, a northern province of Afghanistan. Fareba is 26, the eldest daughter in a family of 12. Although her family does not raise livestock, many members of her community are dependent on healthy herds and flocks to maintain their livelihood.[...]

The USAID’s Rebuilding Agricultural Markets Program will provide Fareba with equipment, furniture, and initial operating capital to help establish a Veterinary Field Unit. Vaccines are ordered in bulk and sold to para-vets who in turn charge market prices for vaccinating livestock. The para-vets deliver a range of veterinary services including conducting diagnostic services, delivering vaccinations, and performing basic surgery on livestock and poultry in rural communities. Operating as small businesses will allow Fareba and other para-vets a chance to generate income to contribute to the support of their families while providing a valuable service to their communities.

Responding to the need to improve livestock health and reduce mortality rates, USAID has established 386 Veterinary Field Units in 31 provinces throughout Afghanistan.

38 posted on 01/10/2008 6:16:19 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Let's see...Veterinary Training... Does that mean she will get Vet Benefits to go with the Marine biology?*


Okay, I need to end the sleep deprivation!


*Note that I didn't miss your comment on the second pic. I'm just trying to avoid making a comment about it like, "I think I'd like to study Marine Biology!"

39 posted on 01/10/2008 6:22:32 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Study but don’t touch. heheh.


40 posted on 01/10/2008 6:31:44 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why not just send 3 nukes and be done with it!


41 posted on 01/10/2008 6:32:52 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Study but don’t touch. heheh.

Yeah...might end up like the Afghan sheep, eh?


42 posted on 01/10/2008 7:54:36 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

From what I’ve heard, the Marines want to take over the mission in Afghanistan.


43 posted on 01/10/2008 7:59:22 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (The next thing from the ron paullution supporters: Krystalnacht)
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To: Recon Dad

I’m surprised about the Koreans.

They used to be some pretty fierce fighters.


44 posted on 01/10/2008 8:02:42 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (The next thing from the ron paullution supporters: Krystalnacht)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
The current government is a sell-out. If it were left to soldiers, maybe we see a sizable combat unit in Afghan.
45 posted on 01/10/2008 8:10:18 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Marine_Uncle

You are correct about the Russians.

The OPFOR pilots at Ft. Polk who fly the An-2 “Colt”, the Mi-2 “Hoplite”, the Mi-8 “Hip”, and the Mi-24 “Hind” rack up more flight hours per month than Russian pilots do in a year or more.


46 posted on 01/10/2008 8:19:26 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (The next thing from the ron paullution supporters: Krystalnacht)
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To: Gondring

Either that or all would end well, with neck in place.


47 posted on 01/11/2008 4:34:04 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Thanks for serving. I can fully believe your statement.


48 posted on 01/11/2008 4:35:50 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Marine_Uncle

It was kinda weird when I was first assigned to Polk seeing those flying around.

But you have to admit that it does make for more realistic training.


49 posted on 01/11/2008 7:32:53 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (The next thing from the ron paullution supporters: Krystalnacht)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I got this in an E-mail the other day:

Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked:

‘What do you feel when you shoot a Terrorist?’

The Marine shrugged and replied,

‘A slight recoil.’


50 posted on 01/11/2008 7:35:46 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (The next thing from the ron paullution supporters: Krystalnacht)
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