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"CLINTON/McCAIN WINS IN N.H. BREATHES LIFE TO AMNESTY REFORM HOPES"(Hispanic Media: Translation)
Telemundo/Univison (Spanish to English) ^ | 10 January 2008 | Univision (Original in Spanish)

Posted on 01/09/2008 6:50:58 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Clinton y McCain apoyan la legalización N. Hampshire dio un respiro a la reforma

AFP John McCain, precandidato republicano, y Hillary Clinton, precandidata demócrata a la presidencia de Estados Unidos. Jorge Cancino, Univision Online*

9 de Enero de 2008

La batalla continúa

Los ganadores de las elecciones primarias en el estado de New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton (demócrata) y John McCain (republicano), apoyan una reforma migratoria que incluya una vía de legalización para la mayoría de los indocumentados que vivan en Estados Unidos.

Pero han advertido que para ello, quienes califiquen deberán cumplir requisitos, entre ellos hablar inglés, pagar multas y carecer de antecedentes criminales, entre otros.

La batalla continúa.....

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; amnesty; amnistia; clinton; elections; hilary; hispanicvote; hitlery; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; mccain; newhampshire; nh2008; univision
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Basically says that Illegal Aliens' long-standing dream of getting "amnesty" and "regularization" to stay in the USA, are not dashed yet, what with the recent victories of McCain and Clinton in New Hampshire in their respective parties.

Exerpt (link to original Spanish banner article).

1 posted on 01/09/2008 6:51:01 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: pissant; 2ndDivisionVet; Man50D; Tennessee Nana; Guenevere; AuntB

Ping!


2 posted on 01/09/2008 6:53:09 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Regardless of who is in the white house it will happen but only if we allow it.


3 posted on 01/09/2008 6:53:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

McCain has to answer for his amnesty plan.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 6:54:29 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We can cuss Bush all we want, but McCain was the author of Shamnesty.


5 posted on 01/09/2008 6:56:41 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The illegal aliens are hoping John Amnesty-is-Me McCain or Hillary America-is-a-Mexican-Village Clinton will win...


6 posted on 01/09/2008 6:56:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: cripplecreek

If a Democrat gets into the White House and has a filibuster proof Congress, they will pass a liberal immigration plan.

At least President Bush’s plan had some penalties and support for the border.

Now the Dems can’t wait to open the floodgates with no restraints whatsoever. That is why we must vote Republican,no matter who the nominee is.


7 posted on 01/09/2008 6:57:59 PM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (Don't be a kamikoze Conservative! Vote Republican in 2008!)
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To: cripplecreek
You have a point.

They have NOT given up their grand plan yet, and are going to start shoving again down our throats from the first week of February 2009 it seems.

This is indeed the swamp monster that will not die.

My bet is that blanket amnesty for 20 million illegals is attempted and at least passed by the Senate by summer of 2009.

8 posted on 01/09/2008 6:58:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
Dont be a Kamikaze Republican! Vote CONSERVATIVE in the General Election! ;-) LOL bump! THanks!!
9 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:15 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Whoever has that graphic of the RINO molesting the elephant on the veldt had better be prepared to post it daily if McAmnesty is elected.

RINO Alert! There’s a problem in the elephant herd!


10 posted on 01/09/2008 7:00:27 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

I’m not voting for either democrat. And I’m not buying ANY amnesty plan.


11 posted on 01/09/2008 7:00:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Do you remember one of the first debates many months ago when Duncan Hunter referred to some of his fellow candidates as , “THE KENNEDY WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY”?

THAT is why Hunter is out of the media coverage and the debates. He told the truth. CAN’T have that! Not to mention stopping any discussion of China and immigration.

McCain, Huckabee, Rudy....look who they’re giving us...LOOK who the media and globalist pundits are pushing!

I think we should start calling it exactly what it is, don’t you? Hunter, as usual, called it first and called it right.

“THE KENNEDY WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY”

California’s Arnold is certainly a perfect example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUz-AgMGLQA

YouTube - New Hampshire Debate: The Kennedy Wing of the Gop
Duncan Hunter Watch video - 1 min 11 sec -

Be sure to read what people say in the comment section when they’re allowed to hear Duncan Hunter.


12 posted on 01/09/2008 7:03:09 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: puroresu

The vote any given republican crowd illustrates exactly why McCain is at least as dangerous as Hillary. They’re already giving in to the same amnesty but somehow its ok because McCain is a “republican”.


13 posted on 01/09/2008 7:05:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Los ganadores de las elecciones primarias en el estado de New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton (demócrata) y John McCain (republicano), apoyan una reforma migratoria que incluya una vía de legalización para la mayoría de los indocumentados que vivan en Estados Unidos.

Translation: The US is SO screwed (as is the FR spell checker)...


14 posted on 01/09/2008 7:12:50 PM PST by Libloather (Hillary donors find their way to the cover of Time. And the very next day they're doing it...)
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To: cripplecreek
Look, some type of pathway to citizenship will eventually be offered to illegal immigrants no matter who is elected. There's simply no other reasonable alternative and there's no use in pretending otherwise.
What we can do is elect a Republican with the leadership skills required to see the War on Terror fought to it's conclusion. The war is the most important issue facing our country at this time. Period.
15 posted on 01/09/2008 7:21:54 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader

Look. I don’t care about your open borders fantasy. You should learn to mow your own lawn. Period.


16 posted on 01/09/2008 7:23:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Rosemont

You do realize that last summer’s Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill was not actually amnesty, right?


17 posted on 01/09/2008 7:24:30 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

“That is why we must vote Republican,no matter who the nominee is”...

I just got done reading McCain is the author of ‘Shamnesty’ how is it we can vote for him?


18 posted on 01/09/2008 7:24:47 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: cripplecreek

My son mows my lawn, thank you very much.


19 posted on 01/09/2008 7:25:38 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: cripplecreek
Regardless of who is in the white house it will happen but only if we allow it.

Amen to that. Last year, the Democrat Congress and the Republican President both wanted it. We The People did not. We The People stopped it.

20 posted on 01/09/2008 7:26:27 PM PST by montag813
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To: Beowulf9

I wouldn’t worry about it, the psycho won’t be elected anyway.


21 posted on 01/09/2008 7:27:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: End Times Crusader
You do realize that last summer’s Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill was not actually amnesty, right?

You are delusional. Not making a very good case for your candidate, I'm afraid.

22 posted on 01/09/2008 7:27:41 PM PST by montag813
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To: AmericanInTokyo

McCain’s proposal to “secure the border first” is for 4 border governors (that’s 2 RINOs and 2 Dems) certify that the border is secure, supposedly, before the amnesty phase will begin.

Let’s say that the 2 RINOs and 2 Dems actually would act in good faith, which is dubious, to say the least. By the time Kennedy&co. got finished with the bill, it would be so full of loopholes that if McCain signed the bill, they could do the amnesty part first anyway.


23 posted on 01/09/2008 7:28:42 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
My bet is that blanket amnesty for 20 million illegals is attempted and at least passed by the Senate by summer of 2009.

Yep. They'll have Hillary sit down with a group illegal immigrant mothers and talk about how (*sniff*) tough it is being an "undocumented" immigrant in today's America...

24 posted on 01/09/2008 7:28:54 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If President Bush couldn’t push amnesty through, there’s no way a President McCain could.


25 posted on 01/09/2008 7:31:18 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: cripplecreek
Regardless of who is in the white house it will happen but only if we allow it.

Telemundo doesn't get the fact the people are the government not the select few who members of Congress. That was proven more than once this past summer when the people jammed the phone lines and froze the email servers with their outrage of Congress consdering granting amnesty to illegal aliens.
26 posted on 01/09/2008 7:34:08 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: End Times Crusader
Seven score after Lincoln freed the slaves Archer-Daniel-Midland, Cargill, Howard Johnson's, and other big businesses exploited illegal aliens to institute virtual slavery. Slavery is immoral and will ultimately decimate America's middle class leading to the fall of America.
America has one of the most generous immigration policies in the world. It is unacceptable that we allow millions of people to sneak in the back door of our country when the front door is available. - Duncan Hunter

27 posted on 01/09/2008 7:38:47 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: End Times Crusader

Amnesty is just one of the reason McCain and Huckabee will never see my vote.


28 posted on 01/09/2008 7:45:37 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: Clintonfatigued

>>If President Bush couldn’t push amnesty through, there’s no way a President McCain could.<<

That remains to be seen. Why ask for trouble? Vote against McCain in the primaries.


29 posted on 01/09/2008 7:45:55 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Sybeck1

The Hildabeast thanks you for that.


30 posted on 01/09/2008 7:48:26 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
>If President Bush couldn’t push amnesty through, there’s no way a President McCain could.<< That remains to be seen. Why ask for trouble? Vote against McCain in the primaries. Amnesty bill or not it is well known McCain will not secure the border. If it is not done ASAP and the magnets are cut off the amnesty bill wont make any difference since the "anchor babies" will start voting and collecting all the bennies of our govt largesse social welfare system
31 posted on 01/09/2008 7:50:08 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: End Times Crusader

The Conservative Case Against John McCain In 2008
There is no Republican up on Capitol Hill more disliked by his own GOP brethren than John McCain. That’s why, despite the size of his fan club in the mainstream media, McCain seems rather unlikely to capture the party’s nomination for President in 2008.

Here’s a short, but sweet primer that may help explain why so many conservatives believe John McCain would be a very poor choice as the Republican nominee in 2008.

The Age Issue

John McCain will be 72 years old in 2008, which will make him 3 years older than Ronald Reagan was when he became the oldest man to ever be inaugurated as president back in 1981. In the Senate, where doddering fossils like Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd can be elected over and over, McCain looks like a spring chicken in comparison. But, Reagan’s age turned out to be a campaign issue and McCain, who would be 80 years old at the end of his 2nd term, would certainly have a lot of people questioning —with good reason — whether he’s up to the job. Were McCain to be the nominee, his age could be the deciding factor that puts a Democrat in office.

How Electable Is McCain Really?

The mainstream media loves John McCain and they regularly write fawning articles referring to him as a “maverick” and a “straight-talker.” Because of this, McCain polls well among Democrats and Independents.

However, the reason McCain is so well liked by the media is because they’re liberals and they love it when he trashes other Republicans. But, what would happen if John McCain actually became the Republican nominee? The same members of the mainstream media who gush over him today would turn on him in a Minnesota minute and once his great press ended, his poll numbers with Independents and Democrats would start to drop precipitously.

Moreover, it’s no big secret that McCain is roundly despised by more than a few conservatives. The thinking there usually goes, “Well, what are they going to do, vote for Hillary?” No, they won’t, “vote for Hillary,” but will they contribute money to McCain, volunteer for his campaign, or defend him from attacks made by Democrats or the press? No, they won’t.

More importantly, they may throw their votes away by voting Libertarian or for the Constitution Party in 2008. Given that the outcome of three of the last four elections may have been decided by these sorts of protest votes (for Perot in ‘92 and ‘96 and Nader in 2000), this is not an issue that should be taken lightly.

What’s Wrong With Actually Having A Loyal Republican As The Republican Nominee?

One of the most galling things about the idea of having John McCain as the Republican nominee in 2008 is that whether he’s a loyal Republican or not is a question that can’t truly be answered. Back in 2001, there were rumors that McCain might, depending on how the election turned out, switch parties in order to help the Democrats retain the Senate. In 2002, there were rumors that McCain was considering switching parties and running for President as a Democrat. In 2004, “on several occasions,” McCain talked with John Kerry about becoming his vice-president. Obviously McCain hasn’t pulled a Jim Jeffords yet, but you have to wonder about where he really stands.

How Can You Be Pro-Life And Pro-Roe v. Wade At The Same Time?

Overall, John McCain does have a fairly solid pro-life voting record (The glaring exception is that he has gone off the reservation on embryonic stem cell research). However, McCain has specifically said, on more than one occasion, back in August of 1999, that he opposes overturning Roe v. Wade:

“I’d love to see a point where (Roe v. Wade) is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even-the long-term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.”

“I would not seek to overturn Roe v. Wade tomorrow, because doing so would endanger the lives of women.”

Has McCain also said he wants to repeal Roe v. Wade on many occasions? Yes. But, how can pro-lifers trust a man who has flip-flopped like John Kerry on Roe v. Wade to appoint the Supreme Court Justices who may end up deciding the issue? Simply put, we can’t.

Kyoto By Any Other Name Would Still Smell As Rotten

John McCain has proposed a radical bill, the McCain-Lieberman Stewardship Act, that is not all that different from the Kyoto Protocol. McCain’s bill would do cataclysmic damage to our economy. In the name of cutting greenhouse gas emissions by an insignificant percentage, that not even the biggest proponents of Kyoto believe would have a significant impact on the weather, here’s the damage John McCain would be willing to do to our economy (from an article by Marlo Lewis in National Review):

“Proponents will undoubtedly argue, as they did last fall, that we need not worry about the bill’s economic impact because Phase I (of McCain’s bill) is just a “modest” first step in addressing global climate change. A recent Energy Information Administration (EIA) analysis suggests otherwise. According to EIA, Phase I would increase: gasoline prices by 9 percent in 2010 and 19 percent in 2025; natural-gas prices in the industrial and electric-power sectors by 21 percent in 2010 and 58 percent in 2025; and electricity prices by 35 percent in 2025.”

Would you support a Republican candidate for President who pledged to sign America on to Kyoto Protocol? If not, then why support John McCain, who wants to do almost the same thing under a different name?

McCain Vs. The Bush Tax Cuts

Most conservatives believe the biggest domestic success of George Bush’s first term were his tax cuts. John McCain voted against them, more than once, before finally flip-flopping and voting for them this year. Enough said.

McCain May Not Like Bush’s Tax Cuts, But He Loves Illegal Immigration

McCain has teamed up with Ted Kennedy to propose a bill that rewards illegal aliens by allowing them to stay in the US permanently after they pay a modest fine, brings in hundreds of thousands of new guest workers as well, and does almost nothing to enforce immigration law or prevent new illegal aliens from entering the country. In other words, if you love George Bush’s illegal immigration policy, John McCain is offering more of the same. On the other hand, if you believe we need to clamp down on illegal immigration, John McCain is not a candidate you should support.

The Gang-Of-14 Disaster

Just as Republicans in Congress were about to step in and put an end to the Democratic filibusters of judges once and for all, John McCain and the rest of the “Gang-Of-14” stepped in with a deal that kept the filibuster alive. This got John McCain and the other participants in the deal lots of favorable press, but the GOP paid a real price so that the “Maverick” could be in the spotlight again. Several GOP judges were thrown over the side and have, as of yet, never been allowed to get a vote.

Furthermore, the Gang-of-14 deal explicitly no long applies after the 2006 elections occur. So, if the Democrats gain seats in the Senate and decide to start filibustering again, it’s entirely possible that this time, the GOP won’t be able to muster the votes to stop them. That means that if a liberal Supreme Court Justice steps down during the last two years of Bush’s term, because of John McCain and Company, it may not be possible to replace them with another Alito or Roberts. That’s the price the party may have to pay so that John McCain can continue to be the New York Times’ favorite Republican.

The McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Debacle

John McCain’s signature piece of legislation is the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Bill, which was one of the worst pieces of legislation to make it through Congress in the last decade. The idea behind this nightmare, which was a failure on every level, was that it was going to, “take the money out of politics.” Well, not only did McCain-Feingold fail to, “take the money out of politics,” more money was spent than ever before during the 2004 elections. Moreover, the bill unconstitutionally curbed free speech, protected incumbents, gave a fund raising edge to the Democrats, and opened up the door to regulating bloggers. If McCain says that he’ll do for America what he did for campaign finance reform, it should be taken as a threat.

Conclusion

That should give you a pretty good idea of what some of McCain’s biggest flaws are, but what you’ve seen so far is by no means a comprehensive list. Keep in mind that McCain opposed Bush’s attempt to protect marriage by enshrining it in the Constitution, committed adultery in his first marriage, attacked the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, endangered the lives of all Americans by handcuffing our military interrogators, had a meltdown over a boxing commission...you can go on and on like this.

The long and short of it is that John McCain is a deeply flawed candidate who’s unlikely to capture the Republican nomination, unlikely to win the presidency, and is unlikely to be a good President even if he somehow makes it to the White House.


32 posted on 01/09/2008 7:50:36 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: Sybeck1

33 posted on 01/09/2008 7:59:55 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: cripplecreek; All
Look the presidential race seems almost hopeless now. We should give up on it and concentrate on electing conservative Republicans to Congress in 2008 so that they can stop whichever of these 3 pro-Amnesty,big government liberals gets in Hillary, Huckabee or McCain.

Our only hope is Congress. If we stay home then the socialist president will have filibuster proof democrat liberal Congress.

Congress has more power than the president anyway.

34 posted on 01/09/2008 8:01:02 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: Democrat_media

It does seem the “power brokers” are running it.


35 posted on 01/09/2008 8:02:32 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: cripplecreek; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Sybeck1; All
Look the presidential race seems almost hopeless now. We should give up on it and concentrate on electing conservative Republicans to Congress in 2008 so that they can stop whichever of these 3 pro-Amnesty,big government liberals gets in Hillary, Huckabee or McCain.

Our only hope is Congress. If we stay home then the socialist president will have filibuster proof democrat liberal Congress.

Congress has more power than the president anyway.

36 posted on 01/09/2008 8:03:35 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good post.

I think Huck and McCain would agree.


37 posted on 01/09/2008 8:04:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

LOL What a GREAT Cartoon. That will make a LOT of mileage to my Republican conservative friends, if that Knucklehead McAmnesty is the nominee.


38 posted on 01/09/2008 8:04:36 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: Sybeck1

It does seem the “power brokers” are running it.

Yes the liberal mainstream media is running the presidential race and deciding who the candidates and winners are.


39 posted on 01/09/2008 8:04:39 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: Milhous
This has nothing to do with slavery. There are simply not enough native born Americans to do fill the job market. This is due in large part to the tens of millions of abortions that have been carried out in the last fifty years thanks to the hedonistic lifestyles of so many liberal Americans. If you really want to blame someone, blame the liberals. Don't scapegoat hardworking, God fearing immigrants whether legally here or not.

It would have been preferable to have allowed them to enter legally years ago, but many xenophobic Americans did not support that policy so now we're stuck with the current situation.

I think it would be best if our legal immigration policy was changed so that this will no longer happen in the future. I was thinking of an increase to at least 5 million a year for the next decade will help stabilize things.

As a Christian, I see it as G-d's will that we welcome these people into our country and help them become good Americans. It is His will that the liberal hedonists of the U.S. be replaced with their betters for their affront to His Word.

We as a nation have brought much of this on ourselves.
40 posted on 01/09/2008 8:04:56 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: Democrat_media
We should give up on it and concentrate on electing conservative Republicans to Congress in 2008

Why give up on anything? Better to fight to the bitter end. I wholeheartedly agree with concentrating on winning back the House.

41 posted on 01/09/2008 8:09:30 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: Democrat_media

Excuse me, but it was Republican voters who chose John McCain over his rivals in New Hampshire not the liberal mainstream media. You seem to lack faith in the democratic process.


42 posted on 01/09/2008 8:09:36 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: End Times Crusader

Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill was not actually amnesty, right?

Right...

Go back home and pay a fine and you are in.

While people like my wife waited several years to come here legally and gain true citizenship, these folks who broke the law, just pay a toll and they are in.

Good plan.


43 posted on 01/09/2008 8:09:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: End Times Crusader

Republicans and Independents brainwashed by the liberal media voted for McCain in New Hampshire.

I doubt most Americans know that McCain-Feingold can be used to censor the internet. The liberal media hides this from the public. The liberal media does more damage by what they leave out like all the pro-Amnesty actions, tax raises, expansion of government power of the liberals like Huckabee, McCain, and Hillary.

And I doubt that most Americans know that McCain tried to give Amnesty to 30 million illegals.


44 posted on 01/09/2008 8:13:22 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: Milhous

We should give up on it and concentrate on electing conservative Republicans to Congress in 2008

Why give up on anything? Better to fight to the bitter end. I wholeheartedly agree with concentrating on winning back the House.

Ok not give up on the presidential race but concentrate on the congressional races. It seems the media has everyone talking about the presidential election like it was a sporting event. And that’s all we are talking about when there is little hope of getting a conservative, strong on the border ,limited government conservative president.


45 posted on 01/09/2008 8:15:50 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: End Times Crusader

Republican does not equal Conservative.

I have faith in God and Conservatism.

Where does your faith lie?


46 posted on 01/09/2008 8:16:12 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: End Times Crusader

Republicans and Independents brainwashed by the liberal media voted for McCain in New Hampshire.

I doubt most Americans know that McCain-Feingold can be used to censor the internet. The liberal media hides this from the public. The liberal media does more damage by what they leave out like all the pro-Amnesty actions, tax raises, expansion of government power done by the liberals like Huckabee, McCain, and Hillary.

And I doubt that most Americans know that McCain tried to give Amnesty to 30 million illegals.


47 posted on 01/09/2008 8:18:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: End Times Crusader

Let’s bring it back down to earth. I know its all about cheap labor because my extended family competes for jobs with illegals willing to work for far less.


48 posted on 01/09/2008 8:19:59 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: End Times Crusader
Your argument that we must have subpar cheap labor to support the economy is exactly what I would expect from a McCain or Clinton supporter.

I appreciate legal immigrants, and those who are in the process to become citizens.

If 13 million can make it here illegally, then 13 million can make it home the same way. (Have them apply, and stand at the end of the line.)

49 posted on 01/09/2008 8:22:41 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I have a response in Spanish, but I’d get banned for life from Free Republic if I posted it.


50 posted on 01/09/2008 8:23:32 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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