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Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law
CNN Washington Bureau ^ | January 9, 2008 | Bill Mears

Posted on 01/09/2008 8:22:32 PM PST by My_Name_is_a_Number

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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote

How about, despite concerns that it could allow thousands of people to vote who aren't eligible?

21 posted on 01/09/2008 8:45:06 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
To prevent this...


22 posted on 01/09/2008 8:46:07 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

I wonder if the justices have to confirm their identity before entering the Supreme Court building. If so, and I suspect they do, perhaps they could extrapolate a bit to society at large.


23 posted on 01/09/2008 8:46:31 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: cquiggy
That will help eliminate one of the favorite frauds perpetrated by the Dems. Double voting. Hundreds of illegal votes are cast every election in winter hot spots like Florida when large amounts of easterners go there for the winter and also vote in their home state via absentee ballot.

Not to mention the common practice of college students who vote in the town of their school as well as with an absentee ballot from their home state.

I live in a city that has several colleges, including three just in my neighborhood, and most of the kids live out of state yet vote at my polling place.  You can't tell me they represent tens of thousands of double democrat votes.

24 posted on 01/09/2008 8:50:23 PM PST by MNnice (Da ma Dakota)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
Excellent item from Taranto in Opinion Journal on 12/31:

Even Steven?
The Associated Press's Mark Sherman reports on a pending Supreme Court case in a way that seems to give both sides their due, but in substance does not:

The dispute over Indiana's voter ID law that is headed to the Supreme Court in January is as much a partisan political drama as a legal tussle.

On one side are mainly Republican backers of the law, including the Bush administration, who say state-produced photo identification is a prudent measure intended to cut down on vote fraud. Yet there have been no Indiana prosecutions of in-person voter fraud--the kind the law is supposed to prevent.

On the other side are mainly Democratic opponents who call voter ID a modern-day poll tax that will disproportionately affect poor, minority and elderly voters--who tend to back Democrats. Yet, a federal judge found that opponents of the law were unable to produce evidence of a single, individual Indiana resident who had been barred from voting because of the law.

But look closely at the "yet" sentences that give the arguments against each side, and you'll see that one is much stronger than the other. The plaintiffs' inability to show that the law has prevented anyone from voting seems a persuasive argument against the Democratic position that the ID requirement is "a modern-day poll tax." By contrast, the absence of prosecutions does not actually rebut the Republican contention that the ID requirement "is a prudent measure intended to cut down on vote fraud."

Does Sherman mean there have been no prosecutions since the law went into effect, or ever? If the former, that would seem to be evidence of the law's success in deterring fraudsters from coming to the polls. If the latter, at most it means the law is superfluous--but it could also mean that prosecutors are reluctant to pursue voter-fraud cases, which, as our colleague John Fund has pointed out, tend to alienate half the electorate.

So what are we to make of Sherman's presenting these two arguments as if they were equally persuasive? Maybe pro-Democratic bias leads him to present the Democrats' poor argument as if it were as persuasive as the Republicans' better one. Or maybe pro-Republican bias leads him to offer a poor argument on behalf of the Democrats. The next paragraph argues for the former interpretation:

The Supreme Court, which famously split 5-4 in the case that sealed the 2000 presidential election for George Bush, will take up the Indiana law on January 9, just as the 2008 presidential primaries are getting under way.

The connection between Bush v. Gore and the Indiana case is . . . what exactly? Or did he just throw that in to prompt a Pavlovian response from Dems?

25 posted on 01/09/2008 8:50:58 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
Supreme Court appears likely to back voter ID law

This is unfair. I'm illegal, how can I vote for Hillary now, I was offered a free bus ride and free welfare for 5 years.
26 posted on 01/09/2008 8:51:00 PM PST by modican
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

The Dems need to create a program to help people get IDs. The GOP, if someone wants to register as a Republican, should do the same thing.


27 posted on 01/09/2008 8:52:09 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: hercuroc

my grandmother never had a drivers liscense. She still has never driven, to this day. (she’s in her 80s) Or a passport. She votes every year. Democrat, but votes nevertheless.


28 posted on 01/09/2008 8:53:38 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: hercuroc
Turns out she was voting in BOTH Florida, and in Indiana:

Faye Buis-Ewing, 72, who has been telling the media she is a 50-year resident of Indiana, at one point in the past few years also

claimed two states as her primary residence and received a homestead exemption on her property taxes in both states.

Monday night from her Florida home, Ewing said she and her husband Kenneth “winter in Florida and summer in Indiana.” She admitted to registering to vote in both states, but stressed that she¹s never voted in Florida. She also has a Florida driver’s license, but when she tried to use it as her photo ID in the Indiana elections in November 2006, poll workers wouldn’t accept it.

She is a lyar and a criminal, and this law prevented her from voting in the election when they began requiring ID.

More here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951133/posts

29 posted on 01/09/2008 8:56:25 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

But what about the children, unfortunate undocumented workers, criminals, and dead? Racism!


30 posted on 01/09/2008 9:03:12 PM PST by onja (We will either find a way or make one. - Hannibal Barca)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
What biased and disgusting reporting.

Hey CNN we don't want illegal aliens from Mexico voting in our elections!!! The only people who are disenfranchised are those not eligible to vote in the first place!!!

31 posted on 01/09/2008 9:03:32 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

Wasn’t it Dems that wanted - and got - ‘motor voter’ registration at DVM offices in every state? That way when folks got their driver’s license (photo ID) they could also register to vote.


32 posted on 01/09/2008 9:04:18 PM PST by vamoose
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
Drinking Coffee "despite concerns that it could deprive thousands of people of their right to vote."

There is not one shred of evidence that this statement is anything other than bull-o-knee, yet it winds up in the opening sentence. The opening line should read:

 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A conservative majority of the Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to support an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification because not one instance of voter disenfranchisement can be shown.
33 posted on 01/09/2008 9:04:31 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (waiting to hear what the reverends Jesse & Al have to say about lily white Iowa voting for Obama!)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
Actually, I think I remember a case (or cases) of illegal aliens carrying voter information and false identification.

Back in 1992, during the Los Angeles riots, many were arrested, and (IIRC) many of those who were arrested were here illegally. AND, as I recall, there were news reports that one, or some, of those folks had voting registration and false identification materials.

Now, this isn't proof (my memory's quite good, but that was 1992).

However, if someone had access to Lexus/Nexus, they might be able to search that/those news reports.

Alternatively, police reports from that time might contain the information.

So, apologies in advance if this turns out to be a false alarm. However, if memory serves, there exists reports of non-citizens with prima facie evidence of voter fraud or intent to commit same.

Note: I'm not a lawyer, so if I'm off base here, mea culpa.

34 posted on 01/09/2008 9:05:49 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
["Justice Antonin Scalia wondered why the Democrats were the ones filing the lawsuit, saying it should have been filed by individual voters who may have been directly harmed by the law. His questioning suggested he thought the case had more to do with politics than the law."]

Man, I LOVE this guy!

["Chief Justice John Roberts… pointed out the state provides free photo IDs to anyone who requests one to vote. "They (the state) help you get it," he said tartly. "If you don't have a photo ID, come in and we'll give you one." ]

Seems like: Game. Set. Match. Democrats Lose!

["Justice John Paul Stevens noted the law in question was passed by a GOP-controlled legislature and signed by a Republican governor...He said candidly that the law would "have an adverse affect on Democrats."

Great grasp of the obvious.

All-in-all, a lot of clear thinking on the SCOTUS today.

35 posted on 01/09/2008 9:07:02 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
There is NO Conservative majority on the Supreme Court.
I love the spin CNN puts in this story.
There are four Conservatives, four idiotic liberals that have no clue what the Constitution says and ONE Flip Flopping confused old man who likes to keep the other eight Justices guessing until the decision is written.
36 posted on 01/09/2008 9:08:26 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number
I don't see how it would disenfranchise anyone. I'd venture to guess that all of these folks have a driver's license, or could get an ID card for a small fee, or for the poor, for free, from a government agency, after showing some other ID, such as a Social Security card, or other card for government services. The poor have some sort of ID for welfare, don't they? If not, now's a good time to start doing that. Might cut down on welfare fraud, too.

The integrity of the voting process MUST be upheld, or all elections could be considered questionable.

37 posted on 01/09/2008 9:08:56 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: My_Name_is_a_Number

You have to Photo ID to buy cigarettes, what the freak is the problem?


38 posted on 01/09/2008 9:09:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Abolish the CIA, give the job to the Free Clinic who know how to stop leaks.)
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To: cquiggy
A strong law requiring voter ID is long overdue.

Strong voter ID laws will be the end of the modern Democrat Party.

39 posted on 01/09/2008 9:11:00 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: TheLion
About time we start securing our elections against vote fraud. As it is now, we are no better that a bananna republic.

My wife is from a banana republic, and her country requires a tamper-proof ID to vote. :)

40 posted on 01/09/2008 9:12:44 PM PST by ElectronVolt
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