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McCain-Lieberman: The Surge Worked
The Wall Street Journal ^ | January 10, 2008 | JOHN MCCAIN and JOE LIEBERMAN

Posted on 01/10/2008 3:52:01 AM PST by Aristotelian

It was exactly one year ago tonight, in a televised address to the nation, that President George W. Bush announced his fateful decision to change course in Iraq, and to send five additional U.S. combat brigades there as part of a new counterinsurgency strategy and under the command of a new general, David Petraeus.

At the time of its announcement, the so-called surge was met with deep skepticism by many Americans -- and understandably so.

After years of mismanagement of the war, many people had grave doubts about whether success in Iraq was possible. In Congress, opposition to the surge from antiwar members was swift and severe. They insisted that Iraq was already "lost," and that there was nothing left to do but accept our defeat and retreat.

In fact, they could not have been more wrong. And had we heeded their calls for retreat, Iraq today would be a country in chaos: a failed state in the heart of the Middle East, overrun by al Qaeda and Iran.

Instead, conditions in that country have been utterly transformed from those of a year ago, as a consequence of the surge. Whereas, a year ago, al Qaeda in Iraq was entrenched in Anbar province and Baghdad, now the forces of Islamist extremism are facing their single greatest and most humiliating defeat since the loss of Afghanistan in 2001. Thanks to the surge, the Sunni Arabs who once constituted the insurgency's core of support in Iraq have been empowered to rise up against the suicide bombers and fanatics in their midst -- prompting Osama bin Laden to call them "traitors."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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The surge worked -- and the Democrats are left without much of a campaign issue.
1 posted on 01/10/2008 3:52:02 AM PST by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
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and the RATS, take another one in the...............HA ha!!!

2 posted on 01/10/2008 3:55:08 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Aristotelian

Oh but they are trying aren’t they.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq_4


3 posted on 01/10/2008 3:58:40 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Aristotelian

well Bill Richardson withdrew completely and immediately.


4 posted on 01/10/2008 3:59:32 AM PST by ari-freedom (I want Fred to win but I really want Fred to want Fred to win.)
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To: Aristotelian
....After years of mismanagement of the war,.....

Oracle from 'see me, hear me, I AM... NOW elect me

5 posted on 01/10/2008 4:04:20 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Aristotelian

McCain-Lieberman

Am I the only one who sees an ulterior motive in that phrase?

Reads like a campaign bumper sticker for 08.


6 posted on 01/10/2008 4:13:50 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: bill1952
Wow!!! You are to be congratulated. I wrote it and didn’t even see it until you pointed it out.
7 posted on 01/10/2008 4:21:48 AM PST by Aristotelian ("Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?")
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To: bill1952
McCain-Lieberman Reads like a campaign bumper sticker for 08.

Just like NH, pandering to the mushy moderates again. Is Michigan another open primary state? Are there any states where the GOP cares what Republicans think?

8 posted on 01/10/2008 4:28:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Aristotelian
Mr. Lieberman is an Independent Democratic senator from Connecticut.

What's an Independent Democrat? Is that a new party or something? ;-)

9 posted on 01/10/2008 4:33:58 AM PST by rhombus
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To: bill1952

Good old McCain. Of course, I see it now. Lieberman has come out and supported McCain.

McCain, the ultimate straight talk, bipartisan.

Democrat sympathizer.

Revolting.


10 posted on 01/10/2008 4:35:12 AM PST by indylindy (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Aristotelian
Then you already know this:

"all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle

11 posted on 01/10/2008 4:35:18 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Aristotelian

“The Surge Worked”
Good, so Juan you can stay in the senate and keep on supporting it.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 4:48:15 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: Aristotelian
After years of mismanagement of the war, many people had grave doubts about whether success in Iraq was possible. In Congress, opposition to the surge from antiwar members was swift and severe. They insisted that Iraq was already "lost," and that there was nothing left to do but accept our defeat and retreat.

Keep in mind that the authors of this article are Joe Lieberman - "Independent" from CT, and JOHN MCCAIN - "Republican" from AZ.

McCain just also happens to be a "leading Republican presidential contender", too.

It's amazing that he can lead in the polls when such banalities come from his own pen.

13 posted on 01/10/2008 5:28:11 AM PST by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: Aristotelian

Yep.


14 posted on 01/10/2008 5:30:10 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Aristotelian

“the Democrats are left without much of a campaign issue.”

That is dangerous thinking on your part. Recall that Winston Churchill won WWII for Britian and then LOST the next election.

The victory of the surge (to the extent that it is a victory- even Patreus isn’t ready to call it that yet) will mean voters will focus on the economy, health care and social issues.

Sad to say, but there will be no victory parades for George W. Bush. The memory of the people is two microseconds and they will ask the GOP: What have you done for me LATELY?


15 posted on 01/10/2008 5:46:16 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: ari-freedom

Bill Richardson served his master, er, mistress well. He siphoned just enough anti-Hillary votes away from those who could seriously damage her. Namely Obama and Edwards. With her win in New Hampshire he was no longer needed.


16 posted on 01/10/2008 5:58:30 AM PST by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: DodoDreamer
Recall that Winston Churchill won WWII for Britian and then LOST the next election.

Your statement deserves embellishment.

Churchill's approval rating at the end of the war in Europe in May 1945 stood at 83 percent. However, the Labour Party led the Conservative Party by 18 percent in opinion polls.

Britain held a general election on July 5, 1956, two months after the end of the war in Europe. Labour won and stayed in power until 1950.

In the election campaign, Labour promised, as one analysis puts it, "a new social order that would ensure better housing, free medical services and employment for all."

Indeed, the basis for the Labour Party's victory had been formed years before. The watershed Beveridge Report, published at the end of 1942, had proposed "cradle to the grave" social insurance, including a national health service, social security-type benefits, family assistance and full employment. Labour ran on this platform and won.

Thus the 1945 election became a referendum on Beveridge's proposal for a vast welfare state.

Britain had been long segregated by a strict class system. World War II was, in a sense, emancipating and empowering. Working class Britons didn't want to return to the old ways after winning such a mammoth struggle as was WWII. Thus the 1945 election can also be viewed as a rebellion by the working class against the rich and aristocratic establishment.

Bottom line: Our current situation in the U.S. bears absolutely no likeness to Britain in 1945 and Churchill's defeat at the polls is not at all analogous.

17 posted on 01/10/2008 8:44:40 AM PST by Aristotelian ("Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?")
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To: Aristotelian

Yeah, but our ‘victory’ in Iraq is not World War II either. In the view of most Americans, the fact that it has dragged on this long is not something to celebrate.


18 posted on 01/10/2008 9:18:09 AM PST by DodoDreamer
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; therut; Laissez-faire capitalist; MARTIAL MONK; napscoordinator; sportutegrl; ..
The McCain List.
Common sense conservatism

19 posted on 01/10/2008 11:38:51 AM PST by Norman Bates
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To: bill1952

McCain-Lieberman moderates . They will only put it in half way . The knife , I mean .


20 posted on 01/10/2008 11:42:30 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Aristotelian

Now that’s a ticket I could vote for. Both are strong on national security.


21 posted on 01/10/2008 2:40:48 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Aristotelian
After years of mismanagement of the war...

This does seem to be the latest mantra. I wonder if anyone repeating it can give any specifics? Was WWII "mismanaged" prior to Midway?

22 posted on 01/10/2008 2:51:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

FYI, the battle of Midway took place from June 4, 1942 to June 7, 1942, just seven months after Pearl Harbor.


23 posted on 01/10/2008 7:24:45 PM PST by Aristotelian ("Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?")
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To: Aristotelian

Gosh, thanks. I’d never have known that all by myself.


24 posted on 01/10/2008 7:45:53 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Your sarcasm is misplaced. Look at the juxtaposition contained in your post. First you cite “After years of mismanagement of the war...” Then you raise the question, “Was WWII “mismanaged” prior to Midway?”

Your comments leave the impression that you think a far amount of time past prior to Midway, when in fact the battle took place quite early in the war. I was merely trying to point that out.


25 posted on 01/10/2008 9:12:06 PM PST by Aristotelian ("Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?")
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To: Aristotelian

And you were mistaken. I am perfectly aware of the chronology of WWII. The point stands and your “FYI” was both rude and irrelevant. IMHO.


26 posted on 01/10/2008 9:14:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: bill1952

I would vote for that ticket in a heartbeat.


27 posted on 01/12/2008 11:14:41 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Both are strong on national security.

Yes, but the rest of their program is not conservative!

28 posted on 01/12/2008 11:57:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Maybe in 2012 or 2016, we can look for a more conservative candidate.

But for me, John McCain will finish the fight in Iraq and Afghanistan!

29 posted on 01/12/2008 1:30:28 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: DodoDreamer

I work with a National Guard Lt. who did two tours there and will be doing one in 2009. In his opinion, the violence is down because it’s winter.


30 posted on 01/12/2008 1:33:15 PM PST by Sybeck1 (McCain or Huckabee will never see my support at the ballot box)
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To: kbennkc

McCain-Liberman, both left liberals, nothing moderate about them. If they want to defend this country, where is the wall? Why ram amnesty down our throats?


31 posted on 01/12/2008 1:38:57 PM PST by Jane Austen
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