Hillary without tears (Camille Paglia on why Hillary won't become President)

Salon.com ^ | 1/10/08 | Camille Paglia

[notbuyingit2]

...But Hillary herself, with her thin, spotty record, tangled psychological baggage, and maundering blowhard of a husband, is also a mighty big roll of the dice. She is a brittle, relentless manipulator with few stable core values who shuffles through useful personalities like a card shark ("Cue the tears!"). Forget all her little gold crosses: Hillary's real god is political expediency. Do Americans truly want this hard-bitten Machiavellian back in the White House? Day one will just be more of the same.

[notbuyingit2]

Basically, this article says that Hillary is temperamentally unsuited to be president. And this comes from someone who probably knows Hillary pretty well.

[altura]

Paglia is infuriating. How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

Paglia is an odd person.

[Badeye]

‘Paglia is infuriating. How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

Paglia is an odd person.’

Indeed, she is. Considering the fact she’s an avowed Lesbian, you have to wonder why she’s worried about abortion in the first place.

[Don Corleone]

Another Hillary “Puff Piece” /sarc

[beaversmom]

Rush was playing a clip yesterday from Hillary on some entertainment show. This interview took place a day before the tearful talk in New Hampshire. Hillary was talking about how she has emotions too, blah, blah, blah. I thought the tears were genuine at the time. I thought she was crying for herself not the country though. I guess I should have known that nothing is genuine with the Clintons.

[notbuyingit2]

True...but the good news is that she doesn’t see Hillary “electable”.

[Piquaboy]

At least someone has told the truth about her.

[Aegedius]

Here is her comment about Harry Reid, in the comments section of the piece...

On the other hand, Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, is hardly the face of a dynamic, authentically contemporary Democratic party. What a weird, reptilian ghoul that guy is. Even his sexless, affectless voice on the radio gives me the creeps. When will Reid get the boot?

[Coldwater Creek]

ALL Dems are ODD! For the life of me, I can’t figure out why any person with any pride at all, would even have a passing thought, as to putting these two failures at being human beings back charge of the country.

[Ditter]

Yeah but at the end she says she will still vote for her. Barf!

[devane617]

The people on the left do not care...That is what the writer does not get. Dims could not care less about character. They will vote for Hillary under any circumstance. Obama is the only thing standing in the way of her presidency.

[TomGuy]

Hillary's real god is political expediency.

And both the Obama camp and GOP contenders need to remember:

She will do whatever it takes to win the Dem nomination and November general.

[garbanzo]

How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

For the same reason most of us will trot out to vote for whoever the GOP nominee is - we're afraid and we don't know what to do.

[Cedric]

Give credit:

Hillary did what she had to do: cry!

It worked - short term.

Long term - quicksand!

[digger48]

Things worth knowing about Hillary Clinton

[Jim Noble]

Considering the fact she’s an avowed Lesbian, you have to wonder why she’s worried about abortion in the first place

It is an interesting fact that there is a strong concordance between gay right activism and pro-abortion activism.

Next time you see photos of a gay rights (or abortion rights) demonstrators, check out the mixing of signs.

It would be interesting to speculate about why that is.

[KarlInOhio]

On the other hand, Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, is hardly the face of a dynamic, authentically contemporary Democratic party. What a weird, reptilian ghoul that guy is.

Weird ghoul. That is a great description for the Dems, especially if you look into the meaning of the word ghoul.

Some of the first definitions from using google:

Demonic or parasitic entity that feeds upon human remains.

A desert monster that devours human flesh.

Evil spirit or monster that robs graves and feeds off of the flesh of the dead.

graverobber: someone who takes bodies from graves and sells them for anatomical dissection

No, consider the enthusiasm they have for embryonic stem cells from abortions and try to find a better word for them than ghouls.

[Ozone34]

Paglia deserved a chapter of her own in Roger Kimball’s book:
“Lives of the Mind: The Use and Abuse of Intelligence from Hegel to Wodehouse”. (Of course the title would have to have been changed “...to Paglia”!)

[KarlInOhio]

No->Now

I really wish FR had an "oops, let me edit that" feature.

[SMARTY]

Bottom line and whether it is stated by Camille or anyone else, FITNESS for the job is all the campaigning should EVER be about....

Not the most photogenic, not the most popular, not the most experienced, not the most intelligent (gee, some of the most intelligent people on earth should never be allowed in the same room with the most dangerous cocktail known to man, i.e. almost total power and nearly unlimited resources), not the most wealthy, etc. ...BUT the best fitted for the job... should be considered. THAT in itself narrows the field outright and will focus the process better than anything else.

[notbuyingit2]

Yeah, but Paglia is a cool-aid drinker. Those who aren’t locked into the Democrat party will probably consider voting for a Republican if the choice is Hillary or Obama.

[notbuyingit2]

Amen to that!

[KarlInOhio]

Paglia is infuriating. How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

How much @(#$( would many on FR (including me) be willing to swallow from our current batch of presidential candidates in order to keep Hillary from appointing justices. Would you vote for John McCain if your choice in November was between him and Hillary?

[Rummyfan]

Never in human history has so much been said and written about one woman’s tears! Someone else should tear up on the campaign trail just to expose the double standard.

[Rummyfan]

Adherence to liberal principles trumps all: race, gender, sexual orientation, everything!

[Paradox]

It is an interesting fact that there is a strong concordance between gay right activism and pro-abortion activism.

What a conundrume for Gays, if, as they say, gayness is genetic, when that genetic flaw is able to be detected inutero, like Down's Syndrome, will they still support a womans choice, if women want to start aborting gay babies?

[CA_soon_gone]

Easy, unlimited sex with no consequences.

[Graybeard58]

It is an interesting fact that there is a strong concordance between gay right activism and pro-abortion activism.

Pregnancy is a result of normal sex, they seek to normalize their deviancy by destroying evidence of what is really normal.

[Sloth]

It is an interesting fact that there is a strong concordance between gay right activism and pro-abortion activism. Next time you see photos of a gay rights (or abortion rights) demonstrators, check out the mixing of signs. It would be interesting to speculate about why that is.

Hmmm. A generic desire for sex to be consequence-free? Many gays perceive 'religious right' types as being oriented toward punishment for sexual sins -- i.e., that they think AIDS is God's punishment for homosexuality, and that unmarried women should similarly be punished for fornication by being burdened with giving birth to an unwanted child. Even if this perception is warped, either situation involves a moral value judgment, which is offensive to the gays' promiscuous sensibilities.

[ModelBreaker]

But she needs to get back to the White House. She broke all the flatware throwing it at Bill and it needs replacing.

[ArrogantBustard]

How much @(#$( would many on FR (including me) be willing to swallow from our current batch of presidential candidates

That recurring question is the most damning indictment of the Republican Party I have ever seen. There's a >1000 post thread (which started yesterday) exploring the topic in all its hideous detail.

And we face the same question every election cycle.

[Badeye]

‘Next time you see photos of a gay rights (or abortion rights) demonstrators, check out the mixing of signs.

It would be interesting to speculate about why that is.’

I’ve noted that in the past, and I’ve concluded that small minorities will usually make ‘common cause’ against the majority.

[Jim Noble]

I’ve noted that in the past, and I’ve concluded that small minorities will usually make ‘common cause’ against the majority

I think it's the teleology of sex, but that's just me...

[Badeye]

I’m sure that also plays a role, although I can’t say how much.

[Miss Didi]

HILLARY IS WOMAN, HEAR LADIES ROAR



January 10, 2008 -- TWO days before the New Hampshire new beginning, an old Hillary insider, who'd been there working the phones, said: "The polls are wrong. This is not going the way of Iowa. It's become Hillary country. A minipollster with whom I've been working actually puts a Hillary win at six points."

I asked, what are you talking about? The answer:

"Women are sensing all the guys - those in the media, those on the ground, those who are running - are out to get her, and they're reacting to those actions. Like: 'My boss hates her? Well, I therefore am for her!' It's females in high spirits. A don't-tell-me-what-to-do atmosphere. Not that the women are angry. They're defiant."

[Miss Didi]

[kalee]

Maureen Dowd didn’t buy the act either.

[DCPatriot]

How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court[?]

That's rich.

How can so many decent Conservatives in here spout non-support for ANY eventual GOP nominee when it's not their personal favorite...thus NOT protecting the court?

[FishTale]

"History will judge Steinem and company very severely for their ethically obtuse indifference to the stream of working-class women and female subordinates whom Bill Clinton sexually harassed and abused, enabled by look-the-other-way and trash-the-victims Hillary."

Tuna Bump

[DCPatriot]

[bert]

.....I thought she was crying for herself not the country ....

It is worth noting that she did not actually cry.

The cue card said cry but the best she could do was fake welling up. She lacks the talent to actually pull it off with out the press doing it for her.

[7thson]

Yes, they are odd. I noticed years ago the physical differences of libs and pubs. Mostly, libs were dishevled slobs and the women always appeared with minimal or no makeup. Recently, starting prior to the 2006 election, the libs started putting front and center women that were somewhat attractive - Kirsten Powers comes to mind. I think they started to see what others were seeing.

[7thson]

Listening to Mark Levin’s program from last night. Near the end, he spoke to a female lib. He walked her through parts of the Constitution, which she agreed with and then she says she is going to vote for Hillary anyway because she is a woman. How can you argue with that? What points and logic can you use against something so stupid?

[7thson]

It used to be that way - more or less - befoe the advent of film and television. Some of our earliest - and best - Presidents could never be elected today.

[SuziQ]

I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee of my party, because I want Democrats appointed to the Cabinet and the Supreme Court

I will do the same on the Republican side, and for the same reason.

[Miss Didi]

RUSH: I mentioned before the break of the last hour that Mrs. Clinton's tears, the choked-up moment, was a little calculated -- and I believe this, using intelligence guided by experience. Nothing that happens with the Clintons is coincidence. But the night before the tearful moment, she appeared on Access Hollywood -- also part of the new strategy. She's appeared on Fox twice. She's sitting down doing interviews with people she used to give no time to whatsoever, and she was on Access Hollywood with the info babe Maria Menounos, and Menounos said, "You're not made of steel, are you? You have feelings." Now, remember: this is the night before the choked-up moment.

MRS. CLINTON: It's that difficult position that a woman candidate is in, because if you get too emotional, that undercuts you. A man can cry. We know that. Lots of our leaders have cried but, you know, a woman, that's a different kind of dynamic. You know, I may get a little passionate and carried away from the time, and maybe somebody says, "Well, you know, women shouldn't do that." Well, I disagree with that. It may take some getting used to because we haven't had a woman president, but, um, I'm confident that people are going to say, you know, "Wait a minute. I want a fighter in the White House."

RUSH: And the next day, after having set the stage the night before and sort of given away little hints here at the future, she has the choked-up moment. Been thinking about it. She was thinking about it before she did it. I wouldn't be surprised if she was rehearsed for this, or she had rehearsed. (cont.)



Why Mrs. Clinton's Tears Worked

[Kimmers]

That is the point, logic and democrat cannot be used in the same sentance....they are emotional thinkers void of looking at the facts.

On the occasion they break free of their emtional bondage, they start to look at the world in a more conservative logical way.

[Dudoight]

I can understand her willingness to vote for Hillary even though she doesn’t like her. I plan to vote republican no matter who the nominee is as I want a republican governmen.

I like Paglia for her insights. She is honest and panders to no one. I don’t agree with her mind set but I emphatically respect her.

[MaestroLC]

Paglia is infuriating. How can she see Hillary so clearly and yet avow to vote for her to protect the court.

Simple: Liberals put their liberalism above everything.

[beaversmom]

Thanks for the transcript.