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Huckabee and Minuteman Accused of Lies To America
News Blaze ^ | 1/10/08 | Alan Gray

Posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:06 PM PST by pissant

Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and Minuteman Co-Founder Jim Gilchrist have been documented lying to America by the Washington Times after false headlines ran on Tuesday proclaiming Mike Huckabee would try to remove birthright citizenship from the Constitution.

The article confirms that Huckabee lied on CNN about his campaign being contacted about Gilchrist's false statements and Gilchrist lied in a release about Huckabee's immigration stances.

Gilchrist put out a press release on Iowa's election eve, under the fake name of "Perry Emerson" that contained several false statements and embellishments of Huckabee's immigration stances. The release claimed Huckabee would try to reverse birthright citizenship laws, which are widely exploited by illegal aliens.

"We are doing our best to get the truth about these lies, and the hidden amnesty component of the Huckabee immigration plan to the public," says William Gheen of ALIPAC. "So far, the majority of the national media is not reporting these facts and voters wonder why they are hearing the news from us instead of CNN and Fox. This is a grand national deception in motion and it is absolutely blasphemous that voters are being deceived on a massive scale."

NewsBlaze requested interviews with Huckabee, and emails received no response.

ALIPAC launched a campaign to warn voters about Huckabee's statements on Fox News on Dec. 9 2007, where Huckabee stated illegal aliens could leave the US and return within days permanently and legally. This information was only reported once on Fox and is not included in Huckabee's distributed immigration plan. The national media is not telling voters that over 84 immigration enforcement organizations, including multiple Minuteman groups, have rebuked Gilchrist's endorsement of Huckabee.

"When lies of this scale go unchecked by the media, it is no wonder that our nation is in such great peril today," said William Gheen. "The Huckabee and Gilchrist immigration deception is a national disaster in motion that will have far reaching negative ramifications for America. Mike Huckabee and Jim Gilchrist are successfully deceiving American voters and they must be exposed and stopped."

Copies of Gilchrist's fake name press release, the Washington Times Articles, copies of the video of Huckabee's "illegals back in days" comments, and the letter signed by the vast majority of groups fighting illegal immigration are available at www.alipac.us


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gilchrist; huckabee; huckster; minuteman; minutemen; mmp
Numbers USA's Roy Becks is also looking at the Huckster with a very skeptical eye.
1 posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:08 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

It is once again looking like immigration will hand the election to Democrats as it did in 2006.

I think this hysteria is fairly ridiculous.


2 posted on 01/10/2008 12:30:34 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: pissant

Gilchrist did whatever he did....

But Huckabee set the record straignt, that very day.

BTW, Huckabee never took back that he would like the anchor baby interpretation revisited — only that he would push for an Amendment.

Score one for Huckabee’s campaign, setting the record straight.


3 posted on 01/10/2008 12:31:17 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: pissant

Gilchrist did whatever he did....

But Huckabee set the record straignt, that very day.

BTW, Huckabee never took back that he would like the anchor baby interpretation revisited — only that he would push for an Amendment.

Score one for Huckabee’s campaign, setting the record straight.


4 posted on 01/10/2008 12:31:17 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: pissant

Nice find.


5 posted on 01/10/2008 12:33:09 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: pissant

Does Huckabee or Gilchrist have anything to do with The Minuteman any longer? I thought that The Minuteman got rid of Gilchrist a while ago and never had anything to do with Huckabee.


6 posted on 01/10/2008 12:34:00 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: Politicalmom; 2ndDivisionVet; kevkrom; Maelstrom

Lying for Huckabee ping!


7 posted on 01/10/2008 12:34:46 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: unspun

Setting the record straight. Like he did with that Theology degree, right?


8 posted on 01/10/2008 12:34:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Seahawks should have went South for the winter - instead they're coming to Lambeau!)
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To: Free Vulcan

I guess if you lie for the right cause, it’s okay. Right?

Not sure Huckabee had anything to do with this, but, wow...


9 posted on 01/10/2008 12:37:16 PM PST by tortdog
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To: lonestar67
It is once again looking like immigration will hand the election to Democrats as it did in 2006. I think this hysteria is fairly ridiculous.

Is your position that the American people just have to suck it up and accept that their leaders of both parties want to force open borders and amnesty down our throats? And that somehow we are wrong to disagree with our betters?

If the R's would nominate someone who would campaign on "build the fence" and "enforce the current laws," that would force the dem to take a position. If it's open borders and amnesty, the dems lose the election because we peel off the Reagan democrats. OTOH, if it's secure borders and no amnesty, the dems lose their death grip on the recent immigrant vote and a lot of them stay home (or go home). Either way we win. Either way, America wins.

But we have to present the issue squarely. Otherwise, the media will let the dem slither out of taking a position.

The way for R's to lose this year is to nominate a pro-amnesty, pro-open-borders candidate or a candidate that says the right things but isn't going to make an issue about it because they don't really believe what they are saying.

10 posted on 01/10/2008 12:38:35 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: unspun

The same Amendment he will not support?


11 posted on 01/10/2008 12:38:55 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ModelBreaker

AS tired as this debate is, I will state again:

I do not think open borders and amnesty is a fair description of any Republican positions. It is hyperbole. I would love to a see a careful reaction to Huckabee’s positions on immigration as they are stated on his web site.

It may not be ideal but if borders are a federal issue, then Huckabee’s practices as a governor may not be particularly relevant.

The hyperbolic view of anti-illegal immigration advocates is returning the party to its 1990s positions which did not do that well.

I do think increased border stricture is completely warranted, but we better find a reasonable sense of this [not mass deportations] or we will lose the election.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 12:42:57 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: tortdog

Wow indeed. The campaign could have disavowed Gilchrist’s statements when interviewed for the Times article, didn’t, then claimed they weren’t contacted by CNN about them.

Something went down behind the scenes, that’s for sure.


13 posted on 01/10/2008 12:51:04 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: FreePaul

“Does Huckabee or Gilchrist have anything to do with The Minuteman any longer? I thought that The Minuteman got rid of Gilchrist a while ago and never had anything to do with Huckabee.”

There are separate ‘minutemen’ groups all around the country. Most of them have disassociated themselves with Gilchrist (started the Minutemanproject) and Simcox (started MCDC), who both appear to have been after the notoriety/$ more than anything else. Most ‘non-profits’ seem to fall into that.


14 posted on 01/10/2008 12:54:07 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: lonestar67
I do not think open borders and amnesty is a fair description of any Republican positions. It is hyperbole. I would love to a see a careful reaction to Huckabee’s positions on immigration as they are stated on his web site.

That's where I disagree. We have open borders. R's were in complete control of the government for 4-6 years. NOTHING happened to improve the open borders in that time. The administration squashes all news about incursions of mexican military and police into the US. It refers to citizens concerned about the open borders as "vigilantes." Of course, noone in our party will admit to being in favor of open borders. But look at their actions (or inaction) and the results. A substantial part of our party is perfectly happy with the status quo on the border and will quietly work to make sure it continues. The shameful voice vote on the defunding of the border fence within the last month is a great example of that.

That a substantial portion of our party supports amnesty is brain-dead.

As to Huckabee's website, I'm skeptical of recent converts. What they say for us rubes when they are running and $3.50 will get you a triple vente latte at Starbucks. What I have heard of his record as governor on this issue is very disturbing.

I'm a hardcore social conservative. I'm an Evangelical Christian. And I think Huckabee is by far the most articulate of the Republican candidates. I was really predisposed to like him. But he's not a conservative and I don't believe recent conversions.

Show me evidence (not websites) that he will cut the growth of federal spending. That he will try to eliminate agencies and employees of the federal government. Show me that he will fight to keep taxes low, to close the border, and not get carried away with all the global warming hysteria. Show me he will spend political capital on these issues. So far, the evidence seems to me to be all to the contrary.

I don't care for Guiliani either. But at least he's honest that he's pro-abortion and pro-homosexual marriage. I wouldn't believe a death-bed conversion from him either.

15 posted on 01/10/2008 1:05:58 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: pissant
How can one even gauge Huckabee? He once used Liberation Theology rhetoric to castigate anyone who opposed illegal immigration. He loved La Raza and called conservatives racists for trying to enforce the law. Now he is proposing the most strict anti-illegal immigration platform of all. Yet in the New Hampshire debate, there he was again using La Raza talking points about those "in the shadows".

How can you judge someone who is so utterly inconsistent and unbelievable?

16 posted on 01/10/2008 1:07:25 PM PST by montag813
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To: lonestar67
I do not think open borders and amnesty is a fair description of any Republican positions

McCain explicitly stated that "amnesty" was an important part of his bill. Guiliani sued the federal government to maintain NYC as a sanctuary for illegal aliens when it was made illegal to have sanctuary cities. Listen to Huckabee's speech to LULAC to understand his immigration position. As with any issue, it's hard to tell exactly where Romney stands a any at any particular time.

Thompson and Hunter have strong records opposing illegal immigration. Hunter has the best record of actually doing something, building the fence.

17 posted on 01/10/2008 1:12:28 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: lonestar67

Amnesty is EXACTLY what McCain proposed. A $5K fine - for those who could pay it - and filing paperwork is indeed amnesty. And all the folks other than Hunter endorsed it until it became apparent that the country hated the idea.


18 posted on 01/10/2008 1:15:30 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: lonestar67

I’m getting pretty tired of the moderates on this issue claiming that those of us who want strict adherence to our immigration laws use the “d” word to delegitimize our stronger stance on this topic. DEPORTATION......

DEPORTATION is not a necessity and is not one of the tools most of us even think of when talking about enforcing our laws. It would be nice, but not practical.

However, it looks like many are already planning to SELF-deport just by some of the busts by ICE and local law enforcement agencies around the country. Imagine that?!! Our local paper had a very long article in December about Mexicans, in particular, deciding it may not be a good thing to leave their country since the job markets here are already saturated with others from their country and instead look for jobs right where they are.

And it seems you have forgotten that it was Tom Tancredo in the debates that FORCED everyone else to take a stance. Even Hillary got blasted for her waffling on the issue. This is my number one issue in this election. If you are all tired of this subject then vote for McCain or Huckabee.


19 posted on 01/10/2008 1:30:38 PM PST by libertylass (Letter to Michael Medved)
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