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(Houston steps closer to new Dynamo stadium) City signs letter of intent for soccer stadium land
Houston Chronicle ^ | Jan. 10, 2008, 10:33AM | City signs letter of intent for soccer stadium land

Posted on 01/10/2008 1:34:32 PM PST by weegee

As negotiations on a proposed soccer stadium drag into the new year, the city of Houston and the Dynamo can now at least agree on where such a venue would be built.

Earlier this week, city officials signed letters of intent to buy parcels of land just east of U.S. 59 and the downtown business district, a move Mayor Bill White described Wednesday as a major step toward acquiring property for a possible home for the back-to-back Major League Soccer champions.

City officials declined to identify the location, but a person with knowledge of the situation confirmed reports that the parcels are in a six-block area between Texas and Walker avenues and Hutchins and Dowling streets, just southeast of Minute Maid Park near the northbound side of U.S. 59.

The Dynamo and parent company Anschutz Entertainment Group have been in negotiations with the city over the building of a 22,000-seat, open-air stadium since May.

Both parties said Wednesday that discussions are proceeding, with the city intending to have the team finance construction of the stadium, expected to cost $70 million to $80 million.

"It's not going to be done the way it was done with other stadiums, where the taxpayers picked up the tab," White said. "We're not going to do some special deal of giving a lot of money that could go to police or fire to a sports owner."

Minute Maid Park, Reliant Stadium and Toyota Center, all recently built sports venues in Houston, were financed for the most part with public monies.

While deeming White's announcement encouraging, Dynamo officials appeared focused on managing expectations as they try to hammer out a deal.

"The new stadium is our highest priority," Dynamo President Oliver Luck said. "Although we have not reached an agreement with the city of Houston, we are anxious to come to closure on the terms of a public-private partnership with the city and we are willing to assume responsibility for a much higher proportion of the costs than any other team owner has had to assume in Houston."

Letters of intent signed The sides seem to be making some progress.

Last month, the city signed letters of intent for two sites being considered for a regional amateur soccer complex. The proposed 18-field complex would house the Dynamo's practice facility and amateur youth and adult clubs.

The locations — one immediately north of Sims Bayou, the other north of Almeda-Genoa — are just west of Texas 288 in south Houston. The site near Almeda-Genoa is the more likely to house the complex, officials said.

Local clubs and organizations welcomed the announcement.

"A severe shortage of quality soccer pitches within the area has long restricted our ability to compete for regional and national level events," said Ed Loucks, president of the South Texas Youth Soccer Association. "This complex, once built, will allow Houston to compete for both regional and national tournaments with long-established venues."

White said officials would see whether school districts wanted to partner with the city on the complex.

"It's going to be one of the biggest things in amateur sports to have occurred in this city in a long, long time," said White, who added that some fields could be in operation as early as 2009.

Possible complication Reaching a deal for a stadium might not come as quickly.

Complicating negotiations is the possible sale of the Dynamo. A group that includes boxer Oscar De La Hoya is interested in buying the team from AEG, which wants to concentrate on its more profitable MLS outfit, the Los Angeles Galaxy.

While AEG's initial proposal called for the team to bear the brunt of the stadium's cost, De La Hoya's group might be pushing to have more public money go toward the project, something White has rejected.

"We will not do what Frisco and other communities have done, which is use large amounts of taxpayers funds to fund the construction of a stadium," White said.

White said that if the stadium deal falls through, the city could use the land, find a commercial developer or sell it.

"It's a good piece of property," he said.

If a stadium is built, tax receipts from concession sales and appreciation in adjacent real estate would benefit city coffers, White said. Though the city would pay to acquire parcels of land for the stadium, it also could sell or lease that land back to the Dynamo owners.

Echoing prior statements by MLS and AEG on the issue, Luck said a stadium is critical to the long-term economic success and viability of the Dynamo.


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1 posted on 01/10/2008 1:34:34 PM PST by weegee
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...
Houston PING

A billion dollars later...

"It's not going to be done the way it was done with other stadiums, where the taxpayers picked up the tab," White said. "We're not going to do some special deal of giving a lot of money that could go to police or fire to a sports owner."

Minute Maid Park, Reliant Stadium and Toyota Center, all recently built sports venues in Houston, were financed for the most part with public monies.


2 posted on 01/10/2008 1:35:41 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee

I had no idea the MLS had gotten so popular that someone would actually build a stadium for one of their teams.


3 posted on 01/10/2008 1:37:20 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: weegee
"A severe shortage of quality soccer pitches within the area has long restricted our ability to compete for regional and national level events,"

Oh come on. There are several large football stadiums that in the Houston area that could be used for soccer.

4 posted on 01/10/2008 1:38:46 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Slapshot68

The tax payer should not have to build a stadium for the MLS, NFL, MLB or NBA.

Each is a ripoff of the tax payer and a massive welfare payment to billionaire sports team owners.


5 posted on 01/10/2008 1:39:45 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: weegee
Err...I didn't even know we had a MLS team in Houston.

When did we get the Dynamo?

6 posted on 01/10/2008 1:48:18 PM PST by Allegra (AACCK! Back in Iraq...how'd that happen so fast??)
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To: weegee

Wow, the Mexicans will be able to boo our National Anthem in Houston.


7 posted on 01/10/2008 1:54:57 PM PST by Haddit (Duncan Hunter)
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To: Slapshot68

You have no idea. It’s the government’s (local or state, depending on the specific situation) way to look multi-cultural and international.

In Utah, 75% of people in Salt Lake County did NOT want public funds used to build a soccer stadium. The governor and state legislature didn’t appreciate that, since they’d pretty much promised Real SL that they’d do it. So, they decided they knew better than we did, and redirected all Salt Lake County’s hotel and tourism revenue into a fund for the stadium. Then they tried to convince us that we weren’t paying for it.


8 posted on 01/10/2008 1:56:01 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: weegee
"It's not going to be done the way it was done with other stadiums, where the taxpayers picked up the tab," White said. "We're not going to do some special deal of giving a lot of money that could go to police or fire to a sports owner."

Thankfully. Out of town Brown loved spending taxpayer money on stadiums.

Does Joel Osteen & Lakewood church have to pay the taxpayers back for the Compaq center?

9 posted on 01/10/2008 1:58:48 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Slapshot68

The Houston Sports Authority has to keep building stadiums to justify their unelection offices and catered skyboxes.


10 posted on 01/10/2008 1:58:51 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: weegee; Allegra; humblegunner; pax_et_bonum; Eaker; TheMom

Soccer is for Eurofags. When did they take over our city?


11 posted on 01/10/2008 2:00:09 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Barney Gumble

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. They all work for Mayor Bob’s pals.

Ken Lay was partnered with them and the Chronicle to get the slim majority vote needed to approve the stadiums.

And people were shocked to learn that the Chronicle “missed” the Enron story. Protected partnership.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 2:00:26 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Slapshot68
I had no idea the MLS had gotten so popular that someone would actually build a stadium for one of their teams.

Depends on the size of the latino population.

13 posted on 01/10/2008 2:00:37 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Hoffer Rand

It’s like Car Rental Taxes...
The excuse it that “people who don’t live here” pay those taxes, but in reality, 60% of all car rentals are LOCAL, in Non-Florida cities...


14 posted on 01/10/2008 2:00:55 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Hoffer Rand

Our car rental and hotel costs have gone to the other stadiums that they now admit WE paid for.


15 posted on 01/10/2008 2:01:16 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Slapshot68

This should make the 50 MLS fans in Houston quite happy.


16 posted on 01/10/2008 2:01:27 PM PST by ohioman
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To: tcrlaf

We had Hurricane Allison flood Houston with a couple of nights of rainfall. Every car in the city was rented for weeks by those who suffered damage from storm.

No waiver for the high tax either.


17 posted on 01/10/2008 2:02:21 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Allegra

We got them from another city. I don’t know when/where.

Obviously they’ve BEEN playing someplace else.


18 posted on 01/10/2008 2:03:22 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

The Dynamo moved to Houston 2 years ago and they’ve won the MLS title for 2 years straight, making them the most successful pro team in Houston’s history. The games are a blast, but they had to play in Robertson Stadium at UofHouston. The statium they’re building is a modest one, seating about 22,000, but it’ll get a lot of revenue from concerts, etc.


19 posted on 01/10/2008 2:03:35 PM PST by HopeSprings
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To: HopeSprings

The concert industry is dead. And between the Woodlands, Verizon, and Toyota Center, there are more than enough venues for Clear Channel to host their concerts at.


20 posted on 01/10/2008 2:07:49 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Slapshot68
I had no idea the MLS had gotten so popular that someone would actually build a stadium for one of their teams.

Columbus got the first one in '99 followed by L.A. in '03, Dallas in '05 and Chicago in '06. Others under construction or planning are New Jersey, Denver, Salt Lake City, Toronto, Washington D.C. and San Francisco.

21 posted on 01/10/2008 2:09:04 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: weegee
Ken Lay was partnered with them and the Chronicle to get the slim majority vote needed to approve the stadiums.

The kept putting it on the ballot until people said yes. Then they repackaged it "so that it would be paid for by hotel guests and car rentals." So a few more numbnuts said "okay, well it's not my money!"

However, all the cities get that dumb idea so if you travel and rent a car you pay 80% in taxes.

Then we go to the stadium and get charged $7 for a pint of beer.

22 posted on 01/10/2008 2:09:23 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Xenalyte

It’s also heavily supported by the latino population, which is the pandering being done.

In Salt Lake, the governor and legislature came right out and said that if you opposed building the stadium, you were a racist and obviously hated brown people.


23 posted on 01/10/2008 2:11:12 PM PST by Hoffer Rand
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To: HopeSprings
The Dynamo moved to Houston 2 years ago and they’ve won the MLS title for 2 years straight, making them the most successful pro team in Houston’s history.

The Rockets also took the NBA Championship 2 years in a row. This soccer stadium may be for "current performance" but they are not the only team to accomplish this task in the city's history.

24 posted on 01/10/2008 2:11:34 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Allegra
Err...I didn't even know we had a MLS team in Houston. When did we get the Dynamo?

They used to be the San Diego team. The original name of the Houston team was going to be Houston 1836, but they changed to so as not to anger their fans from south of the border (read: most of their fans).

25 posted on 01/10/2008 2:11:36 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Barney Gumble

They also claimed there would be enough parking with a few blocks of the stadium for 10,000 cars. This NEW stadium will occupy land in that same parking deprived area.


26 posted on 01/10/2008 2:12:29 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Slapshot68

Yeah, there have been some soccer specfic stadiums built and many more planned. Makes it easier to see instead of looking at the 10 yards lines.


27 posted on 01/10/2008 2:16:06 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: weegee

What they could do is draw the illegal crowd in by giving them a 20% discount...ICE may...Or may not have a good day...


28 posted on 01/10/2008 2:16:26 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Haddit

The Mexicans already got their panties in a twist over the Dynamos original name “The Houston 1836”. How dare Houston commemorate General Sam handing Santa Anna his butt at San Jacinto. The outcry in the “hispanic comunity” was hillarious.


29 posted on 01/10/2008 2:17:43 PM PST by TexasMatty (Trekkers for Paul!!, http://www.chrispeden.org/ !!!)
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To: Allegra; al_c
They used to be the San Jose Earthquakes (not a San Diego team), and played at San Jose State University Spartan Field (the smallest acceptable field in the MLS). A friend of mine always got a pair of season tickets.

The Earthquakes (who used to be the San Jose Clash) had a history of swinging between worst-to-first-to-worst-to-first records while in San Jose. San Jose retained the rights to the team name and record, so the team was forced to change names when they moved to Houston.

San Jose is planning to form a new team for the upcoming season.

-PJ

30 posted on 01/10/2008 2:18:11 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Allegra

Har. The team was named “1846” for about two weeks until the Mexicans went nuts and the league/owners caved.


31 posted on 01/10/2008 2:23:08 PM PST by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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To: weegee

As if having a “professional” succer team wasn’t insulting enough for the fine people of Houston...


32 posted on 01/10/2008 2:24:53 PM PST by JRios1968 (Don't mess with tigers, for you are crunchy and chewy...)
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To: Southern Partisan

1836. Learn your Texas history bub,LOL!


33 posted on 01/10/2008 2:25:51 PM PST by TexasMatty (Trekkers for Paul!!, http://www.chrispeden.org/ !!!)
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To: Xenalyte

I think the ancestors of the majority of the attendees came from the North American continent...somewhat south of the Rio Grande.


34 posted on 01/10/2008 2:30:03 PM PST by Hazwaste (Now with added lemony freshness!)
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To: TexasMatty

I stand corrected, bub.

Houston discards 1836 moniker and becomes Dynamo; MetroStars sale is discussed.
HOUSTON (Monday, March 6, 2006) — Houston 1836 is no more.

After offending many in the Hispanic community of their new home, Major League Soccer’s transplanted San Jose Earthquakes discarded their first nickname, announced on January 25, and became the Houston Dynamo.

Management of the new Houston team chose 1836 to commemorate the year its home city was founded. Latinos, however, associate 1836 with the Texas Revolution and that year’s bloody Battle of San Jacinto (about 20 miles east of Houston) when General Sam Houston led his Texas Army to defeat General Antonio López de Santa Anna’s Mexican forces. The Texas Republic then seceded from Mexico, to be annexed by the United States in 1845, just before the Mexican-American War of 1846-48.

While Russia’s Moscow Dynamo and Ukraine’s Dynamo Kiev were believed to be an influence in the new moniker, team president Oliver Luck offered another explanation — it was to honor the city’s ties to the energy industry. “Dynamo is a word to describe someone who never fatigues, never gives up,” he said. “The new name is symbolic of Houston as an energetic, hard-working, risk-taking kind of town.”

The announcement was made at a press conference today.

“We’d like to once again reiterate that at no time did MLS or (Anschutz Entertainment Group, the team’s owner-operator) ever want to offend any members of the community in Houston,” Luck said. “We want everyone to feel welcome and become a part of professional soccer in Houston.”

Any influence from the international soccer scene would be line with a trend that started with 2005’s two MLS expansion teams. Chivas USA carried the nickname of its parent organization, the popular Mexican team Club Deportivo Guadalajara. Real Salt Lake is a tribute to Spanish power Real Madrid.

The term dynamo is short for dynamoelectric machine which is a generator of electricity, while the word also refers to a forceful, energetic individual.

“We believe a parallel can be drawn to the two major communities in Houston: English speakers and Spanish speakers,” Luck said. “Together, (these communities) will create electricity at games unlike any other in MLS.”

After playing in San Jose for the first 10 years of MLS, the Houston Dynamo will open the 2006 season at home April 2 at Robertson Stadium on the University of Houston campus.


35 posted on 01/10/2008 2:31:23 PM PST by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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To: weegee

At least I can say I marched to the polls and voted against every single one of them, ha!


36 posted on 01/10/2008 2:37:09 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Political Junkie Too
They used to be the San Jose Earthquakes (not a San Diego team)

Huh? They are a soccer team, are they not?

37 posted on 01/10/2008 2:38:21 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Southern Partisan

Battle of San Jacinto
800 Texians under Sam Houston beat 1400 Mexicans in 18 minutes. Hundreds of Mexican soldiers were killed or captured, while there were relatively few Texian casualties.630 Mexican soldiers killed, 208 wounded and 730 prisoners.April 21, 1836. The San Jacinto monument and battleground is about 1/2 an hour outside of Houston. Seems our “Latino” brothers and sisters are still a little miffed about this.


38 posted on 01/10/2008 2:39:23 PM PST by TexasMatty (Trekkers for Paul!!, http://www.chrispeden.org/ !!!)
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To: TexasMatty
The Mexicans already got their panties in a twist over the Dynamos original name “The Houston 1836”. How dare Houston commemorate General Sam handing Santa Anna his butt at San Jacinto. The outcry in the “hispanic comunity” was hillarious.

And their sponsor is Amigo Energy. Go figure.

39 posted on 01/10/2008 2:40:55 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: al_c
Currently, there is no Earthquakes team. The team moved to Houston and became the Dynamo. A new Earthquakes team is being formed and is supposed to play in the upcoming season, at various stadiums in the Bay Area until a permanent site can be arranged.

-PJ

40 posted on 01/10/2008 2:41:12 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Allegra
Err...I didn't even know we had a MLS team in Houston.

Congratulations! You won the MLS championship last year, Allegra!

But then again, it's not like you need to have been in Iraq for the last several years to have heard nothing about American soccer. 8^)

Stay safe, A.

41 posted on 01/10/2008 2:42:23 PM PST by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: Allegra

P.S. to Post 41 - *And the year before, too!*


42 posted on 01/10/2008 2:45:26 PM PST by Rte66
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To: AngryJawa
Congratulations! You won the MLS championship last 2 years

The only reason I knew this was because all the taquerias were closed the next day,lol.

43 posted on 01/10/2008 2:50:45 PM PST by TexasMatty (Trekkers for Paul!!, http://www.chrispeden.org/ !!!)
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To: TexasMatty
The only reason I knew this was because all the taquerias were closed the next day,lol.

Ay caramba!

44 posted on 01/10/2008 2:51:53 PM PST by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} All Hail John Moses Browning)
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To: All

A better title for this thread would be: WHY I HATE SOCCER.


45 posted on 01/10/2008 2:52:05 PM PST by southparkNationalist (I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. I will face my fear and let it pass through me.)
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To: southparkNationalist
A MUCH better title for this thread would be: WHY I HATE A VAST MAJORITY IN THE USA DESPISE SOCCER.

Fixed

46 posted on 01/10/2008 2:58:33 PM PST by JRios1968 (Don't mess with tigers, for you are crunchy and chewy...)
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To: JRios1968

HA HA .....ha ha.....haaaaaaaaaaa! That’s a good one. How do you do that? Your such a smart boy! That was funny. That was amazing.


47 posted on 01/10/2008 3:23:33 PM PST by southparkNationalist (I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. I will face my fear and let it pass through me.)
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To: southparkNationalist

All that, and I can tell the difference between “you’re” and “your” as well!


48 posted on 01/10/2008 3:31:04 PM PST by JRios1968 (Don't mess with tigers, for you are crunchy and chewy...)
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To: weegee

This is wrong on every level.

Let these fools play soccer in hell.


49 posted on 01/10/2008 3:44:39 PM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: TexasMatty

If the majority of soccer fans are Hispanic then it was a stupid idea to name the team 1836 in the first place.


50 posted on 01/10/2008 3:58:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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