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Bork: I dont think that Senator McCain or Governor Huckabee deserves to be called a conservative.
National Review ^

Posted on 01/11/2008 4:32:44 PM PST by Def Conservative

Judge Bork said that if one of them is the nomination, the conservative moment is in trouble, because "neither one of them is remotely a conservative."

(Excerpt) Read more at corner.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bork; elections; huckabee; levin; mccain; mccaintruthfile; rino; rinos; romney; thompson
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Bork, Coulter, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Malkin, Levin, Pastor Pressler...who needs them when you have Andrew Sullivan, the NEA and labor unions?
1 posted on 01/11/2008 4:32:47 PM PST by Def Conservative
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To: Def Conservative

BTTT


2 posted on 01/11/2008 4:33:43 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Def Conservative
And no conservative would attack the President and fellow Republicans the way those two do, they saddle up to the enemy media and the UnAmerican Democrat Party regularly.
3 posted on 01/11/2008 4:35:48 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Def Conservative

GO FRED


4 posted on 01/11/2008 4:36:32 PM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: Ulysse

Agreed.


5 posted on 01/11/2008 4:39:39 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Def Conservative

Bork endorsed Romney.


6 posted on 01/11/2008 4:39:47 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: roses of sharon

The Republican are enjoying a renaissance of pure stupidity. If the polls are still reading Huckabee and McCain, we are headed for a hard landing.


7 posted on 01/11/2008 4:41:57 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Def Conservative
I can’t, for the life of me, figure out why Michael Medved is so supportive of Huckabee and so demeaning of Romney. Huckabee can do no wrong and Romney can do no right to listen to Medved. He belittles anyone suggesting that Huckabee isn’t conservative. What gives??
8 posted on 01/11/2008 4:42:12 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Michael Medved is for open borders...

That’s probably why he supports Huckabee.


9 posted on 01/11/2008 4:44:23 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

Gives new meaning to the expression “getting Borked.” :-)


10 posted on 01/11/2008 4:45:11 PM PST by sourcery (Fred: Because "united we stand, divided we fall.")
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To: originalbuckeye

Medved doesn’t like Romney for two reasons:

Romney ran as a liberal in Massachusetts then pretended to be a conservative in Iowa, and is now back to running as a moderate in Michigan.

Romney ran a negative campaign, and all the other candidates in the race really dislike him.


11 posted on 01/11/2008 4:45:18 PM PST by barryg
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To: Def Conservative
Bork’s right. Ann Coulter is a real disappointment on her choice of "conservative candidate too.
12 posted on 01/11/2008 4:47:15 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss..)
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To: Def Conservative

McCain and Huckabee are not conservatives.

Bork isn’t either.

He thinks the 2nd amendment is a collective not individual right, and called the 9th amendment a meaningless “ink blot.”


13 posted on 01/11/2008 4:47:29 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Def Conservative

He won’t get any argument about that from me.


14 posted on 01/11/2008 4:47:41 PM PST by sport
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To: Def Conservative
The “pork” got Borked!!!

LLS

15 posted on 01/11/2008 4:48:27 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote Fred!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Too bad Bork supports another liberal, by the name of Romney, though.....


16 posted on 01/11/2008 4:49:30 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: Def Conservative

That’s JUDGE Pressler!


17 posted on 01/11/2008 4:49:40 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Def Conservative

it takes one to know one,

and here,

not.

mickey and huck are not conservatives.


18 posted on 01/11/2008 4:49:42 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: sport

Dittos.


19 posted on 01/11/2008 4:49:43 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: barryg
I know Romney had ‘issue ads’in Iowa. I think it’s a good thing to find out how people governed before you might vote for them. Medved referred to these as negative ads but they sounded like comparisons of Huckabee’a track record to Romney’s track record. Medved compared Huckabee’s release of a convict who later raped and murdered to Romney’s appointing a judge who did the same. I don’t compare the two. In Massachusetts I think you would be hard pressed to find a very conservative judge to appoint and Romney was governing a very liberal state.
20 posted on 01/11/2008 4:50:25 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
Huck will be in for a surprise when his buds in the media stop just giggling when he says something stupid, and start screaming it as BREAKING NEWS across their screens 24/7.

And that they will do.

21 posted on 01/11/2008 4:51:43 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Def Conservative

He is also supporting McCain..who is even more open borders than Huckabee. For that reason and his obsession with the Middle East is why I no longer listen his program. He loves “disagreement day” so much but ironically never invites an educated person on his show to debate him on the open borders amnesty plan.


22 posted on 01/11/2008 4:53:24 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: Def Conservative

Bork is right on those two but he forgot to include his guy Romney in the list. I keep thinking of the intro of the Million Dollar man when I see Romney. I can’t figure out where the conservative begins and artifice begins. I’m not voting for Massachusetts Republican who believes that Boys scouts should be forced to admit gays and who has a health care plan that looks like he copied it from Hillary Clinton. Huckabee, Romney, McCain, and Rudy all lack conservative chutzpah.

Fred Thompson talks the talk and walks the walk. That’s what I want. I have yet to hear the others criticize teachers unions or the ACLU or the blame America first crowd. Huckabee has expressed his desire to have a love fest with the left and Romney is trying to talk the “change” language of the left. McCain on the other hand has probably cosponsered more bills with Ted Kennedy than anyone else in the Senate outside of the Democrat party.


23 posted on 01/11/2008 4:54:02 PM PST by Maelstorm (Let the Fredvolution begin!)
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To: Def Conservative
It's Rush Limbaugh's assertion, made today, that Fred Thompson is the only conservative in the race.

U.S. Army Retired


24 posted on 01/11/2008 4:54:44 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Def Conservative

Now that’s what I call being Borked! Good for him.


25 posted on 01/11/2008 4:55:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: nicmarlo
Too bad Bork supports another liberal, by the name of Romney, though..

Of all the major candidates Romney is running the most conservative platform and campaign. Of course he has flipped flopped on important issues, however I will give him a pass given he was in one of the most left-wing states in the union. The other candidates do not have a conservative record either, and frankly there is no excuse for Republicans from states like Arizona, Arkansas and Tennessee to be caving in to the left wing agenda.

26 posted on 01/11/2008 4:57:38 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: roses of sharon

Well, we can be absoultely certain they will do that after the nomination ... the question is, will they do it while he still has a chance (in their eyes).


27 posted on 01/11/2008 5:00:14 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

My thoughts exactly. If a statist like Bork can’t call those two conservatives...


28 posted on 01/11/2008 5:00:21 PM PST by Redcloak (Dingos ate my tagline.)
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To: Fast Ed97

Exactly, Romney changed to conservative...rather you believe him or not is a different issue. Huckabee, Giuliani and McCain haven’t changed their true positions.


30 posted on 01/11/2008 5:02:36 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

Fred/Bork 2008!!!


31 posted on 01/11/2008 5:03:27 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Fred/Rush ‘08!


32 posted on 01/11/2008 5:04:10 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Def Conservative
“I don’t think that Senator McCain or Governor Huckabee deserves to be called a conservative.”

And not hyphenated-conservatives either. Call them what they are - "centrists" or "moderates" or RINOS.

You can be more descriptive too. Huckabee is a Christian populist (with socialist leanings). McCain is...damn...I dunno what McCain is. Sometimes he deserves more than a hyphen, but sometimes he is not even remotely hyphen worthy; I would say that he has no ideological grounding that could be consistently associated with any political group. He is almost like a corporeal manifestation of MSM bias.

33 posted on 01/11/2008 5:04:37 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Sola Veritas

Stay classy, Solov!


34 posted on 01/11/2008 5:06:26 PM PST by Petronski (Slick Willard is just McCain's stalking horse. There's a corrupt bargain afoot.)
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To: Def Conservative

It would seem that McCain has become skilled at playing off conservatism and claiming allegiance from some conservatives on some points and from “independents” and even liberals on many others.


35 posted on 01/11/2008 5:07:06 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: M203M4

Agreed.

George Allen (the man who is supposed to be winning this race) is with Fred and called Huckabee like he is on Levin last night.


36 posted on 01/11/2008 5:07:37 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative
Michael Medved is for open borders...

Michael Medved and Frank Rich should stick to movie reviews. When addressing the world of politics, they both sounds like morons.

37 posted on 01/11/2008 5:09:07 PM PST by montag813
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To: Def Conservative
But, Willard, whose record is almost entirely liberal does? There isn't a candidate in the field that has helped the country slouch toward Gomorrah more than the Mitt Wit.
38 posted on 01/11/2008 5:13:22 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: LdSentinal
Bork endorsed Romney.

LOL!

39 posted on 01/11/2008 5:15:57 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: LdSentinal

Bork is not a conservative, either.


40 posted on 01/11/2008 5:16:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Ulysse

Fred will be on Hannity and Colmes tonight 9:00PM Eastern. GO FRED!


41 posted on 01/11/2008 5:18:53 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Fast Ed97
Conservative is not voluntarily forcing clerks to issue wedding licenses to same-sex couples.

Experts: Credit Romney for homosexual marriage 'What he did was exercise illegal legislative authority'

"What Romney did [was] he exercised illegal legislative authority," Herb Titus said of the governor's actions after the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court released its opinion in the Goodridge case in 2003. "He was bound by what? There was no order. There wasn't even any order to the Department of Public Health to do anything."

That's not a conservative position.

Implementing RomneyCare is also not a conservative position, it's socialistic health care.

Romney has by far and away appointed liberals to the bench. That is also not a conservative position.

Governor Romney appointed 36 judges but a check of their political affiliation confirms that only 9 of them are Republicans. Two are radical gay activists and 14 are registered Democrats. The remainder are unenrolled. Since Massachusetts Democrats are among the most pro-abortion Democrats in America, we have to assume that the majority of Romney's judicial appointments are NOT pro-life.

The article, above-cited, lists additional concerns that conservatives have with Romney and who he claims to be.

42 posted on 01/11/2008 5:19:48 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: toddlintown

I think Ann Coulter is for Duncan Hunter. I can understand that as I also like Hunter. It is just that he does not have a chance this time so I hope he is in the Thompson administration.


43 posted on 01/11/2008 5:21:36 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: M203M4

McCain= part time conservative + part time liberal


44 posted on 01/11/2008 5:26:51 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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To: nicmarlo

I love Fred.

I can live with Mitt or Rudy.

McCain and Huckabee are vermin. If either is the nominee I will forgo my suffrage for the first time in my life. I will not vote for a socialist, regardless of the letter next to their name on a ballot.


45 posted on 01/11/2008 5:27:31 PM PST by mike-zed
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To: seekthetruth

“I think Ann Coulter is for Duncan Hunter.”

You’re right, but Hunter has as much of a chance as I do to win the presidency.

When Huck or Mitt is fighting it out at the convention, wouldn’t it have been nice it Coulter and all the other idealists had thrown their support behind the guy who at is currently winning delegates? I like Hunter too, but practicism over blind idealism.


46 posted on 01/11/2008 5:28:41 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss..)
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To: mike-zed

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49 posted on 01/11/2008 5:34:19 PM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: mike-zed

I agree with your assessment all the way!


50 posted on 01/11/2008 5:40:38 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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