We can only hope and pray so, because them RINOS are ridin' hard... 
Posted on 01/11/2008 11:10:56 PM PST by davidtalker
I rarely post. However, this needs to be raised. If you examine the unfolding GOP nomination process only South Carolina GOP voters can save us from a RINO nominee.
If McCain or the Huckster win in S.C. and McCain beats Romney in Michigan, it may be over. Romney is toast. Fred is toast. Rudy never got started. Huckster can't win on Super Duper Tuesday. McCain coasts to nomination.
In other words, only a Fred Thompson victory in S.C. can save us from a RINO. The table is set after last night's debate. Will voters respond. or split the evangelical vote between Fred and the pretender Huckabee? Enabling McCain to coast to victory. Fred was smart to go after the Huckster. Will S.C. evangelicals rally to Fred and have the Huckster eat his dust? If they don't we get a RINO. period.
A refreshingly succinct vanity, and spot-on. I can’t add to your points, only praise you for posting them.
“I rarely post. However, this needs to be raised. If you examine the unfolding GOP nomination process only South Carolina GOP voters can save us from a RINO nominee.”
Unless South Carolina doesn’t mean what it once did, in which case we’re in deeper doo-doo yet.
FRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this.
During my time in the Army as an Intelligence Analyst, I personally served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan. Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration.
I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of America’s armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com . I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything.
Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment — all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution.
Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to “fix” this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans.
For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesn’t shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesn’t say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions. As many of you know, President Reagan’s favorite paper, “Human Events” has endorsed Fred, as have many other organizations and individuals, including National Right To Life, about 13 state chapters, Jim Robinson here at FR, and a slew of others.
During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees.
As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese government’s attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committee’s report).
As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering.
Don’t be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his “laziness.” As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle today’s and tomorrow’s issues.
I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates’ views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward.
You rarely post? - Good thing because that’s the most half-assed analysis I’ve seen yet.
Nobody’s “toast.”
This thing is going down to the wire.
Keep the vanity crap in the regular threads.
I just hope that South Carolina voters realize Thompson is the true conservative. I hope the Evangelicals realize that Fred Thompson stands for their values just as much as Huckabee, but is also conservative on all other issues which Huckabee isn’t. Fred Thompson has gotten many endorsements from anti abortion originations.
South Carolina, please vote for Fred Thompson.
Hey Mitt Man, Chill Out, We are pulling for u in Michigan!
Mitt Please Win Michigan!
I, fon one, am hoping that one of that 3 or 4 is Mr. Thompson.
Hey Mitt or Fred, toss me a bone here. I need someone to latch onto who is not a RINO, a liberal or a traitor to the cause (are you listening, Johnnie Mac?).
OK smart guy. Even Fred has said he’s gotta win in S.C. Fred falls short who saves us from a RINO?
You got it, friend. Bulls Eye.
You probably know that Mitt has pulled his resources out of the Michigan race.
While candidate McCain won't be the End-of-the-World-as-We-Know-It, the respective choices of VPs will make the difference.
Arggghhh. How dumbed-down has the US electorate become?
In the inimitable words of Cpl.trumpter Calvin P. Titus at the siege of Peking in the Boxer Rebellion “ I’ll try sir ! “ with my single vote and the help of other SC Freepers.
Flip Romney needs to be defeated , along with the other RINO’s .
I’m not excited enough about any of the RINOs who are just slightly better than the Dem.
Please do . It’s all on you South Carolinians right now ...
Save us from RINOTOPIA ....
You’re absolutely correct!
I would phrase it differently - this is conservatives’ last stand to regain control of a national party. Fred is a conservative and a good vehicle for accomplishing this.
If conservatives fail here - fail in South Carolina to give Fred a win - then we’ve lost a national party, its infrastructure and the ability to heavily influence policy.
Conservatives need to put their money where their mouth is - donate to Fred, volunteer for Fred, phone for Fred and vote for Fred. That is the only way to regain control of the party.
I donated $250 last Sunday, and another $100 last night.
If the Republicans give me an open borders candidate, I will write in “Bullwinkle” and leave the party...
No, I wil NOT vote for McCain. I will not vote for Julie-Annie. I will not vote for Hickabee...
Not so fast sir.Remember,if not for SC,John McCain would have been the GOP nominee in 2000.Then we would have had Prez Gore and would now be living under Sharia law.
For three decades now,as SC goes so goes the South and the GOP.The South has the largest concentration of conservatives in the country so it ain’t such a “half-assed analysis” as you say,it’s reasonable political speculation.
We can only hope and pray so, because them RINOS are ridin' hard...
“OK smart guy. Even Fred has said he’s gotta win in S.C. Fred falls short who saves us from a RINO?”
Romney is the last conservative man standing if Fred falls in South Carolina. He’s still got a lot of support out west, where illegal immigration is a big issue (hurting McCain) and where evangelicals are a much smaller part of the electorate (hurting Huckabee). Having close to a 10% Mormon population doesn’t hurt Romney either.
Can Fred still hang in there with a 2nd place finish in SC??? Maybe. But first would really help. Fred needs to establish himself as better than the Huckster to capture the South.
In my eyes, even Giluiani is better than McCain or Huckabee.
“Flip Romney needs to be defeated , along with the other RINO’s.”
Nonsense. If Thompson’s campaign faulters, Romney is by far the best alternative.
His part in the Keating Five scandal.
His ready acceptance of the Dem crossover vote. The common Republican statement was “Democrats don’t choose our candidate.” Mobilized plenty on our side to the polls.
He’s just plain creepy.
I agree with you RE: Thompson in the most part.
However, I still can not get over the televised debate on CSPAN years ago where he let John Glenn walk all over him in one of those comittee meetings.
This was at the time that Glenn was “Whoring” himself for that last ride into space on the taxpayers dime !!
Thompson just sat there like a bump on a log and did not offer ANY counterpoint to Glenn’s rantings.
My jaw was on the floor !!
Frankly, if we are toast after just two of 50 primaries, depending on who wins, we have a much bigger problem than I thought. I guess the American people will let us know following the SC primary. Any candidate that quits after two primaries. Like John McLame, we don’t need as a President. Oh I forgot that was the last Presidential election. This one is different?
Conservatives need to put their money where their mouth is - donate to Fred, volunteer for Fred, phone for Fred and vote for Fred. That is the only way to regain control of the party.
I donated $250 last Sunday, and another $100 last night.
This idea does have merit.
I think it is too late for Fred in SC. Also read where Mitts crowds in MI are really small. Maybe his hope is to get the crazy left wing liberal Dem. vote that’s urging there people to go out and vote for him.
For dogcatcher maybe; not as the GOP nominee.
By the way, it was Romney's campaign that planted a false story to "The Politico" that Thompson was pulling out of the race. Mitt had them plant this the day of the Iowa Caucus.
Thompson told a reporter the sleaze story cost them at least 2-3% points in Iowa.
The Clinton sleaze machine could learn a thing to two from Sleazy Mitt.
If McCain is the nominee, the GOP will be like the nympho teen in the locker room of a football team....
I have faith in SC. They will do the right thing like they did in 2000
Fred in ‘08
Thompson is in the CFR. Just like McCain, a friend of Soros.
You are correct, and I’m encouraged to see that Romney finally hit 20% yesterday in the Rasmussen daily tracking poll. He had been in the teens forever, it seemed, but he’s now only two points out of the lead, behind McCain.
I hope Romney can beat McCain in Michigan, and Thompson (or somebody) can beat McCain in South Carolina.
Romney is the best bet to beat the Democrats.
Local Talk Radio in Greenville, SC and Charlotte (NC) have been pounding McCain.
If you all want to listen, here are the links.
Russ and Lisa, The most popular Morning Talk in the Upstate of SC (This is the heavily populated Greenville and Spartanburg area) You have to sign up with an email address
Latest polls put Thompson a solid fourth behind the Huckster, Romney, and McCain so you tell me.
This may not be true of all of them. Looking at the Huckster's support, it may not even be true of most of them.
For many evangelical voters, it may be that if a candidate gets the Jesus talk right, that whatever else he wants to do doesn't matter.
Loser RINO-Panderer-Romney is beloved by the Dems, like Estrich and Carville.
Romney is not only is a loser, but 1/2 of the GOP will boycott if Romney is on the ticket.
Just listen to the DNC's OWN stategerist.
James Carville: "It's a feel-good story, this Romney thing. Romney is an ascendant guy."
I think the post is good but wrong in some areas. First Mitt might not be out if he pulls second in Michigan as he is collecting more and more delgates. Second, I think that Scarchin was a bit emotional and could have posted his words a little less harsh and tenmountman you provided the best post and thank you for your adulthood in this thing.
If half of the GOP will boycott if Romney is on the ticket, then they will deserve losing to Hillary or Obama, because they are fools.
I’m not so sure. I think I’ve heard that only half of the delegates are chosen by primary election. The rest come from state party organizations, which are controlled by governors or party chairpeople. Primaries do indicate some measure of electability, and may influence the choices for unelected delegates, but, there have been a lot of occasions in which early primary/cauci winners have not been nominated. Good old fashioned smoke-filled (now smoke-free) rooms are still the place where the deals are made for choosing candidates.
what’s the view from SC?
What a great graphic!
1st or 2nd doesn't matter, in my opinion, nearly as much as if he beats Huck in South Carolina. He could probably hang in there if he was in 2nd behind McCain, but if it is behind Huck then it is probably over. They are splitting too many of the conservative votes to keep them both viable. So in order for Fred to continue, he must do it at Hucks expense.
While at the VFW water hole last night in the SC Up Country talking politics, three guys voiced support for Huckabee, another said Huck is no good because of his immigration stand, 3 didn’t know who they’d vote for and another 7 had no opinion.*
*This poll is completely unscientific so pay it no mind.
I think that Fred only has a window of a few days to capitalize in SC. Tuesdays media coverage will be dominated by Michigan, and possibly John McCain if he looks to win Michigan. Wednesday and Thursday it will be dominated by the winner of Michigan, or the loser if Mitt doesn’t pull it out. The candidates will also move on to South Carolina by that time so he will be sharing the local media. So, in my opinion, Fred must capitalize in the next 3 days to turn the trend around. As of right now he is in 4th place. He may leapfrog over Mitt because Mitt is pulling out of SC. But the deciding factor will be can he beat Huck?
1st or 2nd in SC don’t mean nearly as much as if he can beat Huck. If he gets to a close 2nd with McCain being in 1st, I think he can continue. If he loses to Huck though I think that will be the end. He splits to many votes with Huck for them to both be viable.
Has he started running the commercials in SC yet? Are they good? Who do they target?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_primary-233.html
Thank you kindly! I get a lot of milage out of MS-Paint - LOL!M
McCain is a new threat. Some “insider” NYC woman fundraiser said on FNC that she thinks it is going to be McCain.
The MSM wants a RINO at all costs...literally.
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