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New ID Rules May Complicate Air Travel(REAL ID)
newsmax.com ^ | January 11, 2008 9:38 PM | staff

Posted on 01/12/2008 5:42:02 AM PST by kellynla

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To: kellynla
But after 9/11, we can’t continue doing business as usual.

Something NY gov. Eliot Spitzer found out the hard way, eh?

21 posted on 01/12/2008 7:44:26 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: kellynla
And it is time to “take out trash” and require every adult to have some kind of biometric identification.

That is not going to happen. I do wish it would but that would require building a fence on both borders and inspection at our ports of entry. It is not happeneing now and it won't happen. An ID card doesn't mean security.

22 posted on 01/12/2008 7:45:28 AM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: petitfour

Baby Boomers are exempt. X and Y Gen’ers are more likely to be terrorists I guess.

Stupid commie lib bureaucrats.


23 posted on 01/12/2008 7:48:41 AM PST by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: texastoo

Plastic? Are you kidding, or just out of touch? Most places take credit cards without blinking an eye. Just try writing a check without an acceptable picture ID, especially if you are “out of town” or “out of STATE”. We are all already on a “national data base”. It is called the IRS. There are times we stand and fight for our right to live our own life, and there are times we do what is needed to simply LIVE.


24 posted on 01/12/2008 7:59:09 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: kellynla

Gang, it’s classic HEGELIAN Dialectic.

Create a “problem” by throwing open the borders permitting millions of illegals in.

This creates a reaction by the indiginous population to “DO SOMETHING.”

Voila: The feds order up the NATIONAL IDENTITY CARD (which, BTW, is fully capable of being forged by those with the need and resources to do so —think Saudi Arabia here!)

The phrase “YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!” will soon become a familiar one here.

How special.


25 posted on 01/12/2008 7:59:43 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

I haven’t shown an ID in years cash. I uses cash.

There is no doubt that the Govt. has most of my information which is actually booring. This is not the function of government. This is the UN at work for the NWO.


26 posted on 01/12/2008 8:07:03 AM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

“That is not going to happen?”

One more 9/11 and don’t be surprised by what Americans will demand!

Borders will be secured, illegals & muzzies deported!


27 posted on 01/12/2008 8:15:34 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: texastoo
“I haven’t shown an ID in years?”

Well, not everyone lives like a hermit! LMAO

Some of us check books out at the library, rent videos and travel.

But since you don’t need an ID then you shouldn’t care whether one is required, no matter what kind.

28 posted on 01/12/2008 8:24:32 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Dick Bachert

I have been saying for years that that is the real reason for this immigration mess. And also, to drive the middle class down. This is also supplemented with dumbing down in the public screwel system so that our children are less competitive.


29 posted on 01/12/2008 8:28:15 AM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: kellynla; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; Czar

Look what Mexico is doing. As George Wallace said, There is not a dimes worth of difference in the two parties. Now he would have to rephrase that to two countries.

Look at the date of this article. Do you really think Mexico just happened to do this at the same time Bush was announcing this. Do you think there will be a difference in the cards? Where did Mexico get the techology for these cards? Secure? Wrong.

The internation solution with Mexico???????????????

http://www.secureidnews.com/news/2008/01/07/digital-identification-solutions-lands-mexican-federal-id-contract/

Digital Identification Solutions lands Mexican Federal ID Contract
Monday, January 7 2008
Digital Identification Solutions Group, a leading international ID solutions provider, has won a major new contract from the Mexican federal government to produce a series of new, more secure ID card solutions for the government. They will be producing a 100% polyester contactless high-capacity chip card made and equipped with a crypto-processor as well as special Mifare emulation will allow the agency to store a large amounts of personal information, in addition to using in in a multi-application environment


30 posted on 01/12/2008 8:29:10 AM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: vetvetdoug

I have great concerns as to how the “Real ID” will affect gun/ ammo purchases.


31 posted on 01/12/2008 8:30:12 AM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: Dick Bachert

“How special?”

and how “special” was 9/11 for you...

“is fully capable of being forged?”

can you say “biometric?”

gezzzzzzzzzzzzz get a grip, if you have ever worked in your life, you have had a national ID; it’s called a Social Security card.
And if you’re that paranoid, you can always stay holed up in the corner of your bedroom in the fetal position. ROFLMAO


32 posted on 01/12/2008 8:31:40 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: texastoo; processing please hold; yorkie
Do you really think Mexico just happened to do this at the same time Bush was announcing this. Do you think there will be a difference in the cards? Where did Mexico get the techology for these cards? Secure? Wrong.

Interesting.....(and no, NOT a coincidence); this is a German-based company which also has locations in the U.S. and Mexico.

[08/23/07]

Effective immediately, vps ID Systeme GmbH becomes a subsidiary of Digital Identification Solutions AG. The international leader in identification solutions acquires 100% of the Ettlingen-based software company. As a wholly owned subsidiary, vps will continue to operate in the market as a separate company. Through this move, the two long-time partners expect significant synergies to be generated in research & development as well as in sales and marketing.

"For us, incorporation into the Digital Identification Solutions Group means the acceleration of our company's growth strategy," explained Jürgen König, Managing Director and Partner of vps since the founding of the company in 1992. "Under the umbrella of the Digital Identification Solutions Group we will be able to provide even greater support to our international customers and partners, strengthen our market share and expand our sales and marketing channels." Jürgen König will continue to head vps with its 35 employees at the company's present location in Ettlingen, near Karlsruhe, Germany.

http://www.morerfid.com/details.php?subdetail=Report&action=details&report_id=3427


33 posted on 01/12/2008 8:39:31 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: nicmarlo
Thanks for the ping.

I'm digging into something at the moment about the military spying on Condi Rice/Able Danger/china.

bbs

34 posted on 01/12/2008 8:48:46 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: kellynla

So why didn’t you Left Coasters staunch the hispanic conversion of Mexifornia BEFORE we got to this point?

Given that you’re from LA, that is, of course, a rhetorical question.


35 posted on 01/12/2008 8:49:08 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: processing please hold

Sounds more than interesting. I’m sure you’ll post what you find out....


36 posted on 01/12/2008 8:49:52 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: nicmarlo

It wouldn’t surprise me if this company doesn’t get the contract in the US. I guess we need an internation contract with Mexico to make sure our trucks can cross the border with Mexico. Look what free trade has brought us. LOL! /sar.

I don’t feel secure anymore.


37 posted on 01/12/2008 8:50:26 AM PST by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Dick Bachert; kellynla
staunch the hispanic conversion of Mexifornia BEFORE we got to this point?

Because, like has happened throughout the United States...if it was directly affecting the community wherein the invasion was occurring....no one else cared. They claimed that those who were sounding the alarm, were "rascists" or "bigots" or over-reacting. The same tactic continues to be used, but now on a national scale.

38 posted on 01/12/2008 8:51:46 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: texastoo

Nor I.

I’d like to know who the contact person is at this company, and who their contact person is at DHS.

There has to be money shifting between them.....


39 posted on 01/12/2008 8:53:35 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: texastoo
Reason #4: ID cards would function as “”internal passports”” that monitor citizens’ movements

How are National IDs different than State IDs in this regard?

40 posted on 01/12/2008 8:55:04 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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