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Changes in the Sunís Surface to Bring Next Climate Change
Space and Science.net ^ | January 2, 2008 | PRESS RELEASE: SSRC 1-2008

Posted on 01/12/2008 10:24:01 AM PST by SamAdams76

Today, the Space and Science Research Center, (SSRC) in Orlando, Florida announces that it has confirmed the recent web announcement of NASA solar physicists that there are substantial changes occurring in the sun’s surface. The SSRC has further researched these changes and has concluded they will bring about the next climate change to one of a long lasting cold era.

Today, Director of the SSRC, John Casey has reaffirmed earlier research he led that independently discovered the sun’s changes are the result of a family of cycles that bring about climate shifts from cold climate to warm and back again.

“We today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sun’s surface. This will have only one outcome - a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet. This is not however a unique event for the planet although it is critically important news to this and the next generations. It is but the normal sequence of alternating climate changes that has been going on for thousands of years. Further according to our research, this series of solar cycles are so predictable that they can be used to roughly forecast the next series of climate changes many decades in advance. I have verified the accuracy of these cycles’ behavior over the last 1,100 years relative to temperatures on Earth, to well over 90%.”

As to what these changes are Casey says, “The sun’s surface flows have slowed dramatically as NASA has indicated. This process of surface movement, what NASA calls the “conveyor belt” essentially sweeps up old sunspots and deposits new ones. NASA’s studies have found that when the surface movement slows down, sunspot counts drop significantly. All records of sunspot counts and other proxies of solar activity going back 6,000 years clearly validates our own findings that when we have sunspot counts lower then 50 it means only one thing - an intense cold climate, globally. NASA says the solar cycle 25, the one after the next that starts this spring will be at 50 or lower. The general opinion of the SSRC scientists is that it could begin even sooner within 3 years with the next solar cycle 24. What we are saying today is that my own research and that of the other scientists at the SSRC verifies that NASA is right about one thing – a solar cycle of 50 or lower is headed our way. With this next solar minimum predicted by NASA, what I call a “solar hibernation,” the SSRC forecasts a much colder Earth just as it has transpired before for thousands of years. If NASA is the more accurate on the schedule, then we may see even warmer temperatures before the bottom falls out. If the SSRC and other scientists around the world are correct then we have only a few years to prepare before 20-30 years of lasting and possibly dangerous cold arrive.”

When asked about what this will mean to the average person on the street, Casey was firm. “The last time this particular cycle regenerated was over 200 years ago. I call it the “Bi-Centennial Cycle” solar cycle. It took place between 1793 and 1830, the so-called Dalton Minimum, a period of extreme cold that resulted in what historian John D. Post called the ‘last great subsistence crisis.’ With that cold came massive crops losses, food riots, famine and disease. I believe this next climate change will be much stronger and has the potential to once more cause widespread crop losses globally with the resultant ill effects. The key difference for this next Bi-Centennial Cycle’s impact versus the last is that we will have over 8 billion mouths to feed in the next coldest years where as we had only 1 billion the last time. Among other effects like social and economic disruption, we are facing the real prospect of the ‘perfect storm of global food shortages’ in the next climate change. In answer to the question, everyone on the street will be affected.”

Given the importance of the next climate change Casey was asked whether the government has been notified. “Yes, as soon as my research revealed these solar cycles and the prediction of the coming cold era with the next climate change, I notified all the key offices in the Bush administration including both parties in the Senate and House science committees as well as most of the nation’s media outlets. Unfortunately, because of the intensity of coverage of the UN IPCC and man made global warming during 2007, the full story about climate change is very slow in getting told. These changes in the sun have begun. They are unstoppable. With the word finally starting to get out about the next climate change, hopefully we will have time to prepare. Right now, the newly organized SSRC is the leading independent research center in the US and possibly worldwide, that is focused on the next climate change. Some of the world’s brightest scientists, also experts in solar physics and the next climate change have joined with me. In the meantime we will do our best to spread the word along with NASA and others who can see what is about to take place for the Earth’s climate. Soon, I believe this will be recognized as the most important climate story of this century.”

More information on the Space and Science Research Center is available at: www.spaceandscience.net


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; convenientfiction; globalwarming; iceage; nasa; science; solarflares; space; ssrc; sunspots
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1 posted on 01/12/2008 10:24:04 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Bookmarking for later.

This ought to be fun.... Wonder how the global a-warmists will spin this one.


2 posted on 01/12/2008 10:29:24 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SamAdams76
I hope the Sun got (climate god) Al Gore permission to change it's cycle.

He's going to be one pissed off climate deity when he can't sell any more carbon credits after this news gets out......

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3 posted on 01/12/2008 10:31:24 AM PST by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: Spktyr

May you live in interesting times.


4 posted on 01/12/2008 10:31:47 AM PST by conejo99
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To: SamAdams76

I will be 90 and you will have to yell to get my attention because I will be both asleep and deaf. Or wide awake, which would be an indistinguishable state of consciousness.


5 posted on 01/12/2008 10:32:00 AM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: SamAdams76

That’s cool!


6 posted on 01/12/2008 10:33:18 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: conejo99

We already do.

How else do you explain Ron Paul being on the Republican ticket? :P


7 posted on 01/12/2008 10:33:25 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SamAdams76
From the website:

	
John L. Casey
Director, Space and Science Research Center

Mr. Casey has accumulated over thirty years of professional experience spanning a wide variety of technologies, industries, and international endeavors, to include performing important services as a space policy advisor to the White House, and Congress. He has been a consultant to NASA Headquarters, and conducted satellite launch studies for the Department of Defense. His experience also includes being a former space shuttle engineer, military missile and computer systems officer, advanced rocketry and commercial space developer. He has an extensive executive management background in the start-up and financing of high technology companies. He has a BS degree in Physics and Mathematics and an MA degree in Management. He is active in his community in environmental and conservation activities and was past Chairman of GFSD, an international charity that provided aid to women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan. You can contact Mr. Casey directly at mail@spaceandscience.net


Good luck with his theory. He should post it in some sort of trade publication and see what his peers in the management community think about it.
8 posted on 01/12/2008 10:35:38 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: SamAdams76

Didn’t Al Gore invent the sun?


9 posted on 01/12/2008 10:37:07 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: SamAdams76

Another man-made climate change denier trying to confuse the sheeple with facts.


10 posted on 01/12/2008 10:37:21 AM PST by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: Spktyr

“This ought to be fun.... Wonder how the global a-warmists will spin this one.”

They have their scam covered already. They are already saying climate change rather than global warming. The cooling will be blamed on the same capitalism as the warming.


11 posted on 01/12/2008 10:37:43 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: SamAdams76

...not that the latest Nobel Prize for Peace recipient has a clue what he’s blathering about either.


12 posted on 01/12/2008 10:38:13 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
There is some historical data backing up this theory. During the 1650-1725 period, we had some very cold winters which occurred during the "Maunder Minimum." Then we have the "Dalton Minimum" during about the 1790-1830 period described in this press release in which there were also very cold winters.
13 posted on 01/12/2008 10:38:53 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 25 days away from outliving Nicolette Larson)
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To: SamAdams76

I guess we better start burning more oil, coal, gasoline and wood to head it off at the pass. Let’s trap some heat waves in the atmosphere before it hits......

Wind and solar....passe!


14 posted on 01/12/2008 10:49:10 AM PST by fahraint (git theah fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: SamAdams76

Damned SUVs.

< / Sarc>


15 posted on 01/12/2008 10:52:17 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Vote "Tax Hike Mike!" < / sarc>)
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To: dr_who_2
So the "Space and Science Research Center" is one guy with an internet connection. A guy who most recently ran a charity for Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'd love for this to be true, and there is some indications it may be, but I'd like to see more than a press release from one guy. Peer review might be nice.

16 posted on 01/12/2008 10:54:29 AM PST by Captain Pike
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To: SamAdams76

Well, it would be interesting to see if anyone has seen any trends in all the different forms of radiation from the sun, though obviously you can’t get it over a time span that large. Indirect evidence of solar activity (including sun spots) from 6000 years ago sounds just a little implausible.


17 posted on 01/12/2008 10:58:10 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: SamAdams76

So Gore is a dope! All this talk about GW was nothing but propaganda to further a political agenda: government control over light bulbs, toilets, thermostats, “carbon emissions”, and higher taxes.


18 posted on 01/12/2008 11:00:58 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: aflaak; xcamel

ping


19 posted on 01/12/2008 11:03:10 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (If your not taking flak, your not over the target.)
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To: SamAdams76; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH

Ping me if you find one I've missed.


Everything ends in december of '12
20 posted on 01/12/2008 11:06:28 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: SamAdams76
In the famous words of Jim Morrison;

"what have we done to the Earth Sun?"

21 posted on 01/12/2008 11:08:19 AM PST by Cheapskate (Still backing Hunter"I refuse to be fitted with collar and chain, and given a pat on the back")
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To: Man50D

Didn’t Al Gore invent the sun?

No, he did however invent the world wide tanning bed.


22 posted on 01/12/2008 11:08:57 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SamAdams76
That just can't be right, we all know for absolute certain that the earth and everything on it will either burn to a cinder or be inundated by the oceans, can't be sure which, before 2010 if we don't junk all our powered vehicles, ride bikes or walk to work, back home, and everywhere in between, stop burning carbon based fuels of any type, shape, or form, and live in remote filthy caves like our pre-historic ancestor Lucy lived in the African Rift.

And how do we know all that you may ask? Simple, because AlGorus the Seer told us, and told us, and told us, and told us, and tol...........

23 posted on 01/12/2008 11:10:59 AM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how hard working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

24 posted on 01/12/2008 11:15:41 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: xcamel

There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee.


25 posted on 01/12/2008 11:15:48 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Popman

Oh man, that graphic is priceless.


26 posted on 01/12/2008 11:19:46 AM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
They have their scam covered already. They are already saying climate change rather than global warming.

Yup. "Climate Change" works a lot better, because climate always changes, and they can never be wrong now. And it tested more positive with focus groups than their other new slogan, "just give us the money anyway."

27 posted on 01/12/2008 11:22:56 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Spktyr

See, even the sun is affected by global warming..!


28 posted on 01/12/2008 11:23:42 AM PST by Rush4U
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To: SamAdams76

Does this mean we must increase our carbon emissions to mitigate the effects of cooling?


29 posted on 01/12/2008 11:31:09 AM PST by marsh2
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To: zot; Interesting Times

global cooling ping — should we tell algore?


30 posted on 01/12/2008 11:37:05 AM PST by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: SamAdams76
...and has concluded they will bring about the next climate change to one of a long lasting cold era.

Better start pumping out that CO2.

31 posted on 01/12/2008 11:52:49 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Spktyr

Bush’s fault.


32 posted on 01/12/2008 11:56:01 AM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: SamAdams76
"...climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet.

There goes my dream of a pygmy pony ranch empire in Barrow.


33 posted on 01/12/2008 11:58:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Popman

Ooh, good one!


34 posted on 01/12/2008 11:59:27 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Captain Pike
So the "Space and Science Research Center" is one guy with an internet connection.

Casey is the director. From the web site it is unclear how many contributing scientist there are. It is more than one. Sounds like NASA scientist acting as independant consultants.

Links on site: Long Range Solar Forecast

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10may_longrange.htm

35 posted on 01/12/2008 12:05:10 PM PST by mpreston
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To: SamAdams76

We better start now if we are to avert this. My plan involves sprinklers and 93 million miles of garden hose. Wait, scratch that. Okay, how about a bunch of air conditioners and a long extension cord. Wait, maybe a bunch of solar powered air conditioners! That’s the ticket!


36 posted on 01/12/2008 12:05:10 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: SamAdams76
It is but the normal sequence of alternating climate changes that has been going on for thousands of years.

Exactly what I have thought for years concerning "global warming".

37 posted on 01/12/2008 12:09:55 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Vince Ferrer
Yup. "Climate Change" works a lot better, because climate always changes, and they can never be wrong now.

Yes, I noticed the change between "global warming" and "climate change" a couple of years ago.

I believe it is because "global warming" was becoming the punchline of too many jokes when looking at film of people up to their patooties in snow and ice.

38 posted on 01/12/2008 12:13:51 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: dr_who_2

I can’t say much either way about his theory. But you shouldn’t dismiss it just because of his resume. I believe thee was some young punk working for the patent office in Switzerland who came up with a theory that turned out to be pretty interesting.


39 posted on 01/12/2008 12:19:57 PM PST by live+let_live
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
So Gore is a dope! All this talk about GW was nothing but propaganda to further a political agenda: government control over light bulbs, toilets, thermostats, “carbon emissions”, and higher taxes.

Bingo!!!
40 posted on 01/12/2008 12:32:47 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Man50D

Not only that, but the Internet, the chicken, the egg, Marxism, the pregnant chad with dimples, the solar system, history, time, the calorie, CO2, shade, snow, etc. just to name a few.


41 posted on 01/12/2008 12:51:54 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RightWhale
I will be 90 and you will have to yell to get my attention because I will be both asleep and deaf. Or wide awake, which would be an indistinguishable state of consciousness.

Say what? Speak up, I can't hear you!


42 posted on 01/12/2008 12:53:06 PM PST by COBOL2Java (May the Lord bless and keep Hillary Clinton - far away from the White House!)
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To: marsh2

We can easily increase our carbon emmisions by eating more beef and drinking more ethanol.


43 posted on 01/12/2008 12:54:37 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: live+let_live
Quite a number of important “annus mirabilis” papers in fact, and each of them were quite a bit longer and more detailed than the above press release (along with the dissertation he apparently submitted to U Zurich the same year). Einstein may have been on the sidelines of certain physics cliques back then, but I think popular biographies of him tend to exaggerate how much that was the case. He wasn’t a popular guy initially in the academic community, but I doubt he was widely regarded as a crank either. A job at the patent office was probably a little more prestigious back then the more common but nevertheless comfy science career track that it is now.
44 posted on 01/12/2008 12:58:40 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: SamAdams76
Mankind’s problem isn’t that we are changing the climate. Our problem is that we CAN’T change the climate. Ultraviolet light breaks up water molecules in the upper atmosphere. As the planet ages, the core cools and the magnetic field weakens we will begin to loose our most important greenhouse gas - water. It may get very cold.

Oh sure, we can restore some of the H20 that the planet looses by burning stored fossil fuels and releasing the combustion products into the atmosphere but this is a finite resource. At some point we are going to have to start importing water from elsewhere in the solar system. Personally I don’t look forward to dealing the the Kuiper Belt water cartel.

Of course in 500 million years this won’t make any difference. The sun will start to swell as it begins to leave the main sequence and head for the “zone of instability”. Then we’ll see some real global warming. At that point we will have four options - leave (but good planets are hard to find), learn to control the sun’s fusion reactions, move the planet to a cooler part of the solar system or just sit here and die while the priesthood blames it all on an ancient demon know as “Bush”.

45 posted on 01/12/2008 1:06:40 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: mpreston
From the web site it is unclear how many contributing scientist there are. It is more than one. Sounds like NASA scientist acting as independant consultants.

How do you know there is more than one person at the center?

Even if it is, the director is a rocket guy, not a science guy. That's like allowing your car mechanic to give you surgery because overhauling an engine and repairing your body are both "fixing things".

Hey, I hope what they're saying is true. And I think it is. But they're not going to convince anyone until they can get some real people and real science to back them up.

46 posted on 01/12/2008 1:12:24 PM PST by Captain Pike
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To: dr_who_2
Given the importance of the next climate change Casey was asked whether the government has been notified. “Yes, as soon as my research revealed these solar cycles and the prediction of the coming cold era with the next climate change, I notified all the key offices in the Bush administration including both parties in the Senate and House science committees as well as most of the nation’s media outlets.

Pretty busy for a management guy.

47 posted on 01/12/2008 1:17:47 PM PST by Captain Pike
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To: Captain Pike

Yes, I kind of wonder if he’s a Republican fundraiser on the side.


48 posted on 01/12/2008 1:20:00 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Captain Pike
He's busy alright. Next Monday, he's going to submit another PRESS RELEASE!!! Expect a second Manhattan project to commence a few months from now!
49 posted on 01/12/2008 1:36:23 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Captain Pike
How do you know there is more than one person at the center?

The text refers to multiple scientist. Granted names are not included unless you take the link at the bottom to the nasa site. You then find multiple persons linked to solar physics

Even if it is, the director is a rocket guy, not a science guy.

Casey holds a degree in BA in Physics. The study of Physics is much broader than rockets. In fact it is the basis for many sciences. Those that I know involved with Nasa have broad expertise.

50 posted on 01/12/2008 1:48:58 PM PST by mpreston
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