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Real ID is postponed for 5 years
LA Times ^ | 01-12-08 | Nicole Gaouette

Posted on 01/12/2008 1:46:14 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration hit the brakes Friday on a controversial law requiring Americans to carry tamper-proof driver's licenses, delaying its final implementation by five years, until 2017.

A number of states have balked at the law, objecting to it largely over cost and privacy concerns. But under the administration's new edict, states that continue to fight compliance with the law face a penalty: Their residents will be forbidden from using driver's licenses to board airplanes or enter federal buildings as of May 11 of this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dhs; homelandsecurity; realid; realidact

1 posted on 01/12/2008 1:46:18 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Good grief, Charlie Brown.


2 posted on 01/12/2008 1:47:54 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Looks like the implemtation of the new American police state will be temporarily postponed.

I’m sure DHS Secretary Skeletor is heartbroken at this development.


3 posted on 01/12/2008 1:49:49 PM PST by mkjessup (Where's Duncan Hunter you ask? BLACKLISTED for telling the truth on the "KENNEDY WING of the GOP!")
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Illegals can vote without an ID, but citizens cannot fly on planes without one?


4 posted on 01/12/2008 1:51:09 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

or two presidential elections...


5 posted on 01/12/2008 1:51:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
2017?

What's the rush? That's only 16 years after 9/11. We wouldn't want our plodding bureaucracy to hurry in matters of life and death, would we?

If the entire program can be taken that casually, maybe we should just forget about it altogether. Our ruling classes have obviously adopted that position about securing our "borders".

6 posted on 01/12/2008 2:06:12 PM PST by Gritty (The West has three potentially fatal bugs -- pacifism, self-hatred, and complacency - Richard Pipes)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The way I read it, if my state doesn’t play along, I can’t get on a plane after May 11?


7 posted on 01/12/2008 2:06:28 PM PST by live+let_live
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To: SeafoodGumbo

It ought to be postponed forever.


8 posted on 01/12/2008 2:06:53 PM PST by mysterio
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To: longtermmemmory

Yep, that ought to give them enough time to move in more illegals to throw away the elections.


9 posted on 01/12/2008 2:08:41 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: live+let_live

“The way I read it, if my state doesn’t play along, I can’t get on a plane after May 11?”

That is what it says in the excerpt, but you will be able to use your passport.


10 posted on 01/12/2008 2:09:50 PM PST by brooklin
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Something a few steps beyond stupid is going on.


11 posted on 01/12/2008 2:12:11 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: RightWhale

Never underestimate the stupidity of government. That was my tagline on here back in 05.


12 posted on 01/12/2008 2:12:58 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: live+let_live

You’ll need a passport or a “higher-level” security screening on site.


13 posted on 01/12/2008 2:13:54 PM PST by jabchae
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To: brooklin

“you will be able to use your passport”

I don’t have passport. I guess I am a second class citizen.

You think the Patriot Act got people upset? If this goes into effect on May 11 of this year, we can thank Bush for single handedly electing a Democrat to every open political office next November.


14 posted on 01/12/2008 2:17:01 PM PST by live+let_live
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To: RightWhale

“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” —Claire Wolfe

I can’t help but wonder if Claire is half wrong.


15 posted on 01/12/2008 2:33:15 PM PST by live+let_live
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Whether you agree or disagree with this act, you got to kinda chuckle that the the gov is postponing till 2017 a law that was written in response to a terror event in 2001.

Geeez, 16 years. That’s what I call responsive gov’t.

BTW, it was never about terror, but about controlling the populace.


16 posted on 01/12/2008 2:35:33 PM PST by umgud (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: umgud

Looks like the states need to get their acts together, and challange the law, constitutionally.

Something tells me that the feds are out of line on this one.


17 posted on 01/12/2008 2:41:19 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: umgud

“BTW, it was never about terror, but about controlling the populace.”

More people need to “see” this.


18 posted on 01/12/2008 2:53:55 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: mysterio

“It ought to be postponed forever.”

5 years? Won’t need the ID’s. They’ll have retina scans in place by then.


19 posted on 01/12/2008 2:59:56 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: SeafoodGumbo
"Their residents will be forbidden from using driver's licenses to board airplanes or enter federal buildings as of May 11 of this year."

So, precisely what identification WILL be legal for folks from these states???

20 posted on 01/12/2008 3:15:42 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Poison Pill
Maybe everyone will be microchiped by then.

On their right hand or forehead.

21 posted on 01/12/2008 3:20:52 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Guess they can’t send me to the federal pen, then.


22 posted on 01/12/2008 3:26:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: mkjessup

Yes and no, apparently. May 11 people are going to be dealing with 2nd class citizenship at the federal level. I suppose they should all go out and get passports before them, as the State Dept (feds) give that out.

Just fry up the little RFID chip in there once you get it.


23 posted on 01/12/2008 3:28:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: SeafoodGumbo

It sounds good, but I just can’t help thinking it’s only going to be tougher on US citizens.

It will somehow criminalize us, like all those lame gun control laws & nanny laws.


24 posted on 01/12/2008 3:29:08 PM PST by Califreak (Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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To: live+let_live
To think that my wife and I stooped going into Canada for breakfast, just because they asked to see our licenses and checked the trunk.
25 posted on 01/12/2008 3:44:05 PM PST by brooklin
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To: SeafoodGumbo
It will be interesting how they handle people called up for Jury Duty for federal cases, in those states that don't go along with the new rules. Will cases come to a stand still. What will the lawyers do?
26 posted on 01/12/2008 3:50:36 PM PST by rerat0120
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To: live+let_live

Amazing days are upon us.


27 posted on 01/12/2008 4:06:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: rerat0120
They will do just as they always have. Issue an exemption to anyone as necessary to carry on as usual.

Am I the only one who managed to get through the eight grade? The ramifications of these insane illogical laws are starting to make my head ache.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

28 posted on 01/12/2008 4:07:49 PM PST by An Old Man (Socialism is a tool designed to "socialize" (i.e., confiscate, not create) wealth)
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To: live+let_live

Frankly I think we would be a lot further ahead if we just boycotted the airports for about six months. This move to Nazi Germany 1942 is getting old.


29 posted on 01/12/2008 4:07:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: FReepapalooza

Eeexxxactly!


30 posted on 01/12/2008 4:10:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Wonder Warthog
So, precisely what identification WILL be legal for folks from these states???

A Matricula card will do

31 posted on 01/13/2008 7:07:32 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Radix

You’re not a citizen, but a “resident”. Stop using those outmoded, archaic, offensive, patriarchal, homophobic, fascist, sexist, racist and ______ terms. Thank You.


32 posted on 01/13/2008 7:10:44 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Colorado Doug
So, precisely what identification WILL be legal for folks from these states???

A Matricula card will do

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

NO more calls, please.

WE have a winner!

33 posted on 01/13/2008 7:10:52 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mysterio
It ought to be postponed forever.

Just like the border fence is now.

34 posted on 01/13/2008 7:12:30 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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