Posted on 01/13/2008 10:13:05 AM PST by Chi-townChief
As someone who actually talks to teens, I hated, hated, hated this movie.
In the liner notes to "Juno: Music from the Motion Picture," the soundtrack album released on Tuesday, director Jason Reitman writes about how the movie's star helped choose its music, which was key in setting the pervasive sarcastic-hipster tone.
"Two months before we started shooting 'Juno,' Ellen Page was hanging out at my office when I asked her 'What kind of music do you think Juno listens to?' " Reitman recalls. "Without pause, she blurted out 'the Moldy Peaches.' " Within seconds, the actress was downloading songs by Brooklyn's lo-fi "anti-folk" duo, including "Anyone Else But You," the duet Reitman and screenwriter Diablo Cody, the former Chicagoan Brook Busey, chose to provide the closing scene between 16-year-old parents Juno and Paulie Bleeker (Michael Cera).
"This song, more than any other, defined the sound of the film: a patchwork of homemade sounds made by teenagers whose sense of humor and honesty rang through the crappy tape recorder they were using to capture their chicken-scratch lyrics," Reitman notes.
And this points to the heart of the problem with "Juno."
Here is a 29-year-old screenwriter (Cody) and a 30-year-old director (Reitman) brainstorming with a nearly 21-year-old actress (Page) and deciding that the intentionally primitive and infantile sounds recorded by a 35-year-old musician (Kimya Dawson) epitomize "the music that the kids today really listen to." This sort of contrivance hardly smacks of the honesty and humor the filmmakers brag about, and which many critics have hailed.
"A confluence of perfection in every aspect of the film," David Weigand wrote in the San Francisco Chronicle. "Not a single false note," David Denby crowed in The New Yorker. "Just about the best movie of the year," said my esteemed colleague Roger Ebert. And Michael Phillips added in the Tribune: "For a while you wonder if this story of a pregnant teenager's coming of age will exhaust you with cleverness. Then, stealthily, everything about the movie starts working together more purposefully. And by the end you've fallen in love with the thing."
Well, no: As an unapologetically old-school feminist, the father of a soon-to-be-teenage daughter, a reporter who regularly talks to actual teens as part of his beat and a plain old moviegoer, I hated, hated, hated this movie. A few of my many problems:
*The notion that kids -- even smart and sarcastic ones -- talk like Juno is a lie only thirtysomething filmmakers and fiftysomething movie critics could buy. You want accurate wisecracking high-school dialog? Go back to MTV's animated "Daria" or Sara Gilbert's Darlene on "Roseanne." Or, as Juno says, "Honest to blog!"
*Are we really supposed to believe that a girl as intelligent and self-empowered as Juno, when determining the time to lose her virginity via a planned encounter with her best friend, neglects to bring birth control? Or that her endearingly human parents, no matter how non-judgmental, accept the news of her pregnancy so nonchalantly? And why doesn't anybody, including the father, respectfully ask the ever-sneering Juno her reasoning for having the baby and giving it up for adoption?
*I lived in Minneapolis, where the film is set, in the early '90s, and every day on my way to work, I passed a women's clinic besieged by angry protesters determined to deny its patients access. It was no laughing matter, and regardless of your personal politics at a time when the future of Roe v. Wade is very much in doubt, the clinicians, the patients and even the protesters all deserve more complex, nuanced and thoughtful portraits than the simplistic and insulting caricatures drawn by Cody.
Lip service We can debate whether the message of "Juno" is anti-abortion and therefore anti-woman, despite its arch post-feminist veneer. But there's no arguing that the movie is anti-rock, at least if we still define rock as an honest expression of youthful rebellion.
Sure, Juno gives lip service to Iggy and the Stooges and Patti Smith. But there isn't a hint of the anger and lust for life of those pioneering punks in the sort of tween indie-rock that Juno loves. The soundtrack is dominated by the sickeningly saccharine Belle & Sebastian, Cat Power, Antsy Pants and most of all Kimya Dawson, who claims seven of the 19 tracks.
Dawson first made her name beside Adam Green as half of the Moldy Peaches, but that band went on hiatus in 2003. Since then, she's been a prolific solo artist, pausing only to give birth to a daughter named Panda Delilah in 2006. Dawson attempts to channel her own inner infant with deliberately sing-song vocals, beyond-amateurish musicianship and faux-juvenile lyrics. A sample from "Loose Lips," which powers a key scene in the movie:
So if you wanna burn yourself remember that I love you
And if you wanna cut yourself remember that I love you
And if you wanna kill yourself remember that I love you
Call me up before you're dead, we can make some plans instead
Send me an IM, I'll be your friend.
Those lines treat the very real problem of teen suicide with the same glib insincerity that "Juno" adopts while addressing teen pregnancy. Reitman may be right when he says the movie found its ideal soundtrack.
'Just a lot of noise' Yes, Sonic Youth also appears on the album. But the underground icons are represented by their ironic, smarmy cover of the Carpenters' "Superstar." And in the film, Juno actually mocks the would-be adoptive father, Mark Loring (Jason Bateman), for championing the Melvins and Sonic Youth, whom she dismisses as "just a lot of noise."
We're encouraged to see Bateman/Loring as hopelessly immature -- unlike paradigms of virtue such as Seth Rogen in "Knocked Up" and Nathan Fillion in "Waitress," those other recent tributes to unplanned pregnancies -- because he bails on his obviously troubled marriage when he decides he isn't ready for fatherhood. His stunted growth is illustrated by the fact that he's nostalgic for that passe and played-out alternative rock, and he regrets quitting his touring underground band to write commercial jingles. Silly old Gen X'er -- doesn't he know Generation Y has rejected the very notion of "selling out" in the mad rush to buy iPhones, Uggs and Wii consoles?
In the end, in a topsy-turvy movie universe where the teen heroine struts like John Travolta in "Saturday Night Fever," clearing a path in her high school hallway with a pregnant belly she treats as the ultimate outsider status symbol, Bateman's Loring actually can be seen as a more honest and genuinely rebellious character than Juno. At the very least, you know he has a much better record collection.
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What kind of nutcase thought that up?
Ug....what an emo this baby is.
Set in the early ‘90s? Honest to blog? There were no bogs back than and only smattering of bbs boards.
A grumpy, old rocker rails against what those young whippersnappers are listening to. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, etc.
oh plleeeeeeeeze. Somebody put them out of their misery!!!!
So the guys real problem with the movie is that he didn’t like the sound track and he’s pissed off that a pregnant teen age girl didn’t get an abortion? IS that it?
I have read this carefully and stil don’t know what the hell this guy’s complaint with the movie is?
It was a brilliant film.
OK...maybe the guy has a point about the music...
I think he’s po’d that she didn’t abort.
It sounds like this guy is actually complainign about the music. He thinks young people (that he actually “talks to,” mind you....he says that several times) listen to grungy, pissed off classic rock.
He is so out of touch it is ridiculous.
As a middle school teacher, I know what the kids listen to, and they listen to the kind of stuff that was in Juno........now, that is white kids. African-American kids hate rock mostly.
Gosh. Where to begin? The feminization of men has claimed far too many who think that Feminism was overall good for women. They get figuratively slapped down by their tolerant-of-all women and cower wondering what they said wrong. Stand up, man! Stop co-opting your young daughter into thinking that ALL women need to behave the same way. Being anti-abortion is NOT being anti-women. There’s just too much in this article to deconstruct. Worn out already.
I thought one of the songs was Buddy Holly playing without amplification and backup but it was so close I was surprised. Some of these liberal pro abortion Democrat critics have the depth of music knowledge about as deep as the snot on a mustached upper lip.
I think so - you get the impression that if it was a bunch of “teen angst” leading up to an abortion, he’d love it.
I think the writer meant that he lived in Minneapolis in the 90’s. I don’t think the movie was set in the 90’s.
I think the idiot is saying he lived in MN in the early 90’s. Why a music critic thinks he can trash a movie is beyond me, other than that he admits he’s a “feminist”, meaning he’s PO’d because the girl didn’t kill the baby.
>>Ug....what an emo this baby is.<<
Spot on!
“As someone who actually talks to teens, I hated, hated, hated this movie.”
Maybe he “talks” to teens — like their Vice-Principal does — but, he’s not listening.
Juno is rated at an impressive 8.4 on IMDB. Younger viewers gave it the highest ratings — e.g. females 18-29 rated it a solid 9.0.
So if you wanna burn yourself remember that I love you
And if you wanna cut yourself remember that I love you
And if you wanna kill yourself remember that I love you
Call me up before you’re dead, we can make some plans instead
Send me an IM, I’ll be your friend.
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A Carole King wannabe ???????????????
You’ve got that exactly right. People like this - as well as the “suits” in the music business - are almost all reflexively liberal and hate anything that deviates from that worldview. Of course, they’ve been shown to be completely wrong about what the “market” wants time and time again. They’re basically “followers” in every sense - artistically, politically, personally.
LOL, well I did kinda like it, but a little goes a long way, I would not want to listen to a steady diet of that!
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
I’ve never heard of the musical groups he mentions, so my teenagers don’t listen to them. (I would know - they’re always leaving their CD’s in my player in the kitchen.)
I’m sure the writer realizes that all teenagers don’t listen to the same music, so he must be upset about the rest of the film. Too bad.
Inquiring FReepers with their own teens want to know...
Cheers!
So why is it that most intolerant people that I know happen to be liberals?
Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Kansas, TobyMac, Demon Hunter, Salvador, Confederate Railroad. Stuff with endless, loud electric guitar noodles and usually incomprehensible lyrics.
When I’m driving, they have to listen to bluegrass :-).
I have a feeling this so called critic raved over crap like “Reality Bites”. I had to suffer in the 90’s through Ethan Hawke and the grunge angst slacker movies which none of the members of Generation X I knew related to.
Kerry Livgren of Kansas converted to Christianity and did a couple of solo albums.
And Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song isn't bad, hint hint. ;-)
Cheers!
I liked Kansas back when they were live, in the 70’s and 80’s. Original stuff, for its time, and sort of “religious-y”. Anoreth and I discuss the religious content. “Is this about the death of Pope Pius X?” “No, I think it’s about General Garibaldi.”
She says DCTalk is better than TobyMac as a solo. I like Barlow Girl, but the teens consider them inadequate in the Electric Guitar Noodling category. (”When will this song be over, already?”)
I like the Led Zeppelin Viking shtik. Takes me back to my teens :-).
bttt
I’m not a music critic but I know what I like.
That song needs more Cow Bell.
Aye, and here’s the real proof:
“We can debate whether the message of “Juno” is anti-abortion and therefore anti-woman”
So anything that is anti-abortion is automatically anti-woman.
That’s quite an amazing idea, there. One would think valuing the lives of unborn children who could turn out to BE WOMEN might be pro-woman, in a way.
Or Maybe he’s just mad his daughter didn’t get an abortion?
My wife took me to this movie over the weekend and I was expecting some sort of chick-flick. I was really surprised how much I enjoyed the movie, best I've seen in a while. My only question at the end was "what was the moral of the story?" Not that there has to be one...
Maybe he's jealous, he will never be able to sacrifice a baby to Molech. Or he's just gay. /sarc
Or just a jerk.
And in the movie the most normal and intelligent people were working-class nobodies while the desperate broken people were upper-middle class “creatives”. That’s a narrative that a modern liberal can’t abide.
>>”what was the moral of the story?”
I think it was mercifully subtle, not obtrusive and unavoidable like an episode of “All in the Family”.
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