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IT'S TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO DENOUNCE EXTREMISTS
Daily Express ^ | January 11,2008 | Frederick Forsyth

Posted on 01/13/2008 12:40:52 PM PST by george76

THE two self-styled spokesmen of the Muslim community who laid into the Bishop of Rochester did themselves and Islam in Britain no favours.

The Ramadhan Foundation and the Islamic Society of Great Britain claimed again that anyone criticising even the most extreme proponents of the poison that beyond any doubt exists inside the Muslim “umma” in our country is criticising all Muslims. This is simply not true and one suspects these “spokesmen” secretly know it.

Bishop Nazir-Ali of Rochester made absolutely plain that he was referring to the extremists and to suggest no such maniacs exist is ludicrous. We all know they do and sensible, peace-loving Muslims who want to live in harmony with the rest of us know it also.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; churchofengland; dhimmitude; diversity; eurabia; gwot; hesham; islam; multiculturalism; muslim; muslims; religionofpeace; rop; trop; uk; wot
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1 posted on 01/13/2008 12:40:53 PM PST by george76
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IT'S PAST TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO DENOUNCE EXTREMISTS.

There. Fixed it.

2 posted on 01/13/2008 12:42:25 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: george76
"IT'S TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO DENOUNCE EXTREMISTS"

WAY past time

3 posted on 01/13/2008 12:42:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: george76

YES IT IS, IN FACT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENOUNCED YEARS AGO AND I MEAN YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS...........


4 posted on 01/13/2008 12:43:19 PM PST by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Candor7

The leaders of “moderate Islam” in the UK have simply lost control of their own ultra-extreme faction ...


5 posted on 01/13/2008 12:43:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Moderate muslims are apostates. The radical muzzies are only doing allah’s will per the koronic teachings.


6 posted on 01/13/2008 12:45:28 PM PST by umgud (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: maine-iac7; Beckwith
Do 'no-go' zones for non-Muslims exist in Britain, as the Bishop of Rochester claims ?

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7 posted on 01/13/2008 12:47:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: sofaman
IT'S PAST TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO DENOUNCE EXTREMISTS

Sorry this fixes nothing. Muslims will not denounce extremism...because Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam cooperates with no one and does not accept freedom as a gift from God. They will say what ever they want to keep the infidels in line until they can strike them at an opportune time.

8 posted on 01/13/2008 12:50:50 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: umgud; SunkenCiv; M. Espinola

http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f99_1185836519


9 posted on 01/13/2008 12:51:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Taggart_D

Of course they won’t. Their commitment to the destruction of Israel remains unchanged. They’re jut trying to do it from the inside and they have a useful idiot in Olmert.


10 posted on 01/13/2008 12:53:16 PM PST by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: george76

From the Muslim perspective, they have no terrorists among them. Their own Quran tells them to make jihad against all non-Muslims. Their own Quran tells them to convert the infidel, enslave the infidel, or kill the infidel. Their own Quran provides the rationale for their barbaric lifestyle, and explains their bloody history all too well.

Denounce extremism? Not likely.

Islam - bringing you the worst of the Seventh Century for over 1400 years.


11 posted on 01/13/2008 12:56:26 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: george76

It was time for mooselimbs to denounce extremism on 9-12.
They didn’t and they can all go to hell.


12 posted on 01/13/2008 12:56:39 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: george76

The peaceful Muslims either are keeping quiet out of fear from the radicals or they are quietly supporting the violent radicals.


13 posted on 01/13/2008 1:00:07 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: george76
I’m sure this headline was scratched in cave somewhere thousands of years ago.
14 posted on 01/13/2008 1:01:55 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Joe Boucher

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816


15 posted on 01/13/2008 1:02:34 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

To the writer of the original article, I have a bridge in Broklyn to sell to you.


16 posted on 01/13/2008 1:02:38 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: george76

Doing the things their god, (satan) tells them to. Thanks for the video.


17 posted on 01/13/2008 1:04:21 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: george76

Long past the time. They had their chance on Sept 12, 2001.
They didn’t do it.
Expel all members of the cult of death.


18 posted on 01/13/2008 1:04:47 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: george76

Shhhh. You hear that? Is that crickets chirping?


19 posted on 01/13/2008 1:06:37 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: umgud

We should henceforth refer to the Koran as the Moron after the founder of Islam.


20 posted on 01/13/2008 1:07:27 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: Biggirl

Thanks.

Did you see both videos ?


21 posted on 01/13/2008 1:18:21 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

As far as I’m concerned, September 12 was their absolute last chance. They should have done it in the 70s, when terrorism started spreading. They should have done it in the 80s, after the Marine barracks, the hijackings, the bombings. They should have done it in the 90s, after the first attack on the WTC. They had hundreds of other opportunities, too many to mention.

Now this guy here wants them all to stand together, criticism of the most extreme equals criticism of all. I say, let’s do it. Just make sure the ROE reflect that.


22 posted on 01/13/2008 1:18:51 PM PST by phrogphlyer
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The Bishop of Oxford has rejected another senior clergyman's fears that broadcasting the Muslim call to prayer in East Oxford could create a "no-go area" for non-Muslims.

Another idiot

23 posted on 01/13/2008 1:25:32 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: All

Any muslim who ISN’T killing infidels is a BAD muslim according to the koran...


24 posted on 01/13/2008 1:27:01 PM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: sionnsar; weegee; forkinsocket
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Dispatches - Undercover Mosque

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25 posted on 01/13/2008 1:42:11 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; pandoraou812

9/11/01 would have been a good time. But it would have been hard for them to be heard over the huge crowds of Muslims partying in the streets.


26 posted on 01/13/2008 1:44:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: TigersEye

Muslims are happy to kill any non believer any time and any place until the world is converted.


27 posted on 01/13/2008 1:49:04 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I’m not holding my breath on this!


28 posted on 01/13/2008 1:59:02 PM PST by A. Morgan (Each terrorist we kill lowers the carbon foot print of the war.)
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To: TigersEye
I don't trust Muslims. They are allowed to lie to us...When I see them stop demanding their foot baths, prayer areas & now halal food maybe I will believe they are going to change. Somehow I just don't see it happening. If they can't adapt to us then they don't belong here. Why don't they stand up & say enough is enough? Maybe they are too afraid, I don't know. I do know I resent all their demands!
29 posted on 01/13/2008 2:04:57 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't taunt the animal's at the zoo or they may bite YOU!)
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To: george76

“The leaders of “moderate Islam ~”

Your statement is flawed as sadly, there are no moderate Muslims...


30 posted on 01/13/2008 2:08:46 PM PST by snoringbear (')
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To: george76

No, but will bookmarked them for latter viewing.


31 posted on 01/13/2008 2:19:14 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: george76
If Western Civilization hopes to survive as an enlightening influence in the world,
a couple million of the medieval raghead bastards will require extermination before it's all over with.

One of my biggest regrets in these passing autumn years is that the slowing effects of time and gravity,
disheartening enough in themselves, also conspire to keep the pointed end of our military stick from giving us older guys some training and an M16 . . .

32 posted on 01/13/2008 2:21:06 PM PST by tomkat ( Infidels for FRed )
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To: snoringbear
Thanks.

That was a quote from the article.

My fault for not making that clear earlier.


. There are no moderate Muslims ( unless they are temporarily out of bullets ).

33 posted on 01/13/2008 2:25:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: tomkat

Any effort has to be completed.

Any half step ( like WWI lead to WWII ) will just leave them stronger.


34 posted on 01/13/2008 2:29:14 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
If criticizing muslim "extremists" is an attack on all muslims, then an extremists attack on non-muslims is an attack by all muslims on non-muslims.

We must be inclusive, mustn't we?

35 posted on 01/13/2008 2:34:56 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Thumper1960

I think that I get your point.

There are soldiers for Islam who will lead, but other muslims ( like women ) will cook and feed the soldiers.

Still other muslims will help with banking, etc.


36 posted on 01/13/2008 2:44:10 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I believe that should there be a time in this nation when muslim “extremists” do their dirty work in any meaningful quantity, they will be “assisted” by those who profess to be “moderates”. It will be at that time when any and all muslims would be, rightfully, “in play” and self-defense would dictate that we act accordingly.


37 posted on 01/13/2008 2:57:11 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Thumper1960

If we act, we must act to win .

Or we will leave the fight for our kids .


38 posted on 01/13/2008 3:01:35 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Thumper1960

The Hidden Army Of Radical Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7L05geznoI


39 posted on 01/13/2008 3:03:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: forkinsocket

The Hidden Army Of Radical Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7L05geznoI


40 posted on 01/13/2008 3:04:56 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

It won’t happen. Here’s why.

Islam demands that believers accept the Koran and the sayings of Muhammed as the explicit word of God, unchanging and unalterable.

The essence of moderation is that ability to choose between alternatives. In Islam, there are only two alternatives - belief or disbelief.

Islam has strong opinions about those who do not believe. The Koran explicitly tells believers that they should try to convert the unbeliever. If the unbeliever refuses to convert, he can be killed. The exceptions are Jews and Christians, who are allowed to live under Islam as long as they follow harsh rules limiting their conduct, religious expression, political standing in the community, and so forth.

Therefore, there are no “extremists.” In Islam, it’s either us or them. Waiting for the Islamic world to denounce extremism is a lot like waiting for the Christians to reject the risen Christ, because the behavior that we consider extreme is simply action taken by Islamic believers following the rules set down by God.

In the Christan world, choice is a powerful force, starting with the choices made by the Jews to follow or not follow God, and then continuing with the choices made by Christians. Throughout the Bible, people stray, come back, stray again. Believers mirror that struggle themselves by grappling with the sin in the lives. With Christians and Jews, there are “extremists,” because there is an established diversity of opinion about how to be a good Jew or a good Christian.

The Koran allows no diversity. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened - look at the Shi’ite and Sunni split - but when push comes to shove, the Islamic believer looks to the Book for the absolute word. The struggle is between the absolute truth and the believer’s ability to follow.

And here we are confronting each other - freedom vs. strict adherence to a 1,300-year-old book.


41 posted on 01/13/2008 3:05:42 PM PST by redpoll
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To: george76; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
anyone criticising even the most extreme proponents of the poison that beyond any doubt exists inside the Muslim "umma" in our country is criticising all Muslims
I can top that. Islam is medieval fascism and the Koran is a medieval Mein Kampf. The Moslems have been making war on the entire world for 1400+ years, and the world has had enough of them. Thanks george76.
42 posted on 01/13/2008 5:34:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: george76

Yes ; I can tell you from experience that they do .

When down in London for a trade fair , myself and a couple of colleagues decided to go for a curry in Brick Lane (a street in the East End 90% Bangladeshi ) . Walking up the lane we encountered whistles , shouts of ‘Kuffir’, etc , from groups of youths . I replied that we were looking for a decent curry house to spend our money in , and a leader type ‘offered’ to take us to a good one for a ‘fee’ of £10 each . We agreed , having little choice , and when this young savage took us to the place he said ‘sorry about some of our brothers - this is our area . Next time you come here ask for me and I’ll bring you up the lane no hassle .’

Another time in the Manningham area of Bradford , had just measured an empty shop for a prospective client , when a crowd of Paki/Kashmiri kids gathered . They started yelling abuse and threats as I got into my car . As I drove off a few of them threw things (including a firework ) and consequently I hit a minibus for disabled people in my haste to get away.
Once in the City Centre I phoned the police . At the station house they got me to fill in a statement and , when I had done so , they wanted to charge ME with leaving the scene of an accident !
Of course I was livid and asked them why they turned a blind eye to the way that the 3rd world savages behaved on their patch . The reply ? ‘Well sir , if people like you showed a bit more tolerance then perhaps they would behave a bit differently . It sounds to us that you did or said summat to provoke them .’

All this is happening with the full approval of this Government , by the way .


43 posted on 01/14/2008 5:27:52 AM PST by jabbermog
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To: pandoraou812; Fred Nerks; SunkenCiv; Beckwith

They are allowed to lie to us...

and the muslims are trained by their leaders how to do it.

Muslim Trojan Horses.


44 posted on 01/14/2008 7:55:00 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
IT'S TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO DENOUNCE EXTREMISTS

I would laugh, because the headline is soooooo PC, naive, absurd and far from understanding the nature of the beast, but in the end, we won't be laughing about this subject.
45 posted on 01/14/2008 7:57:10 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: redpoll; forkinsocket

Thanks :

The Koran allows no diversity. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened - look at the Shi’ite and Sunni split - but when push comes to shove, the Islamic believer looks to the Book for the absolute word. The struggle is between the absolute truth and the believer’s ability to follow.


Apparently Osama said that : after they killed all the Jews and Christians...they would go after the ‘heretic’ muslims.

( no link, just my old memory )


46 posted on 01/14/2008 7:59:14 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: F15Eagle

That title was funny and pathetic.


47 posted on 01/14/2008 8:01:28 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
They are allowed to lie to us... and the Muslims are trained by their leaders how to do it. Muslim Trojan Horses

Very true... Muslim Trojan horses, it works for me. I just wish more people would understand that giving into their demand is just BS. If they can't adapt to living here then send them go back to their own lands. I don't know why they want to be here, for the money or as Trojan horses...In all the pictures I have ever seen of Iraq , I've never seen a foot bath. so I want to know why they insist on them here.

48 posted on 01/14/2008 8:01:54 AM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't taunt the animal's at the zoo or they may bite YOU!)
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To: jabbermog; Candor7; UKrepublican; vimto; M. Espinola

Thanks for your report.

Amazing that the police are so brain washed. Is there anything to be done by the local voters to get their bosses ( politicans ? ) attention.


49 posted on 01/14/2008 8:05:13 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Taggart_D

Currently reading the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.

One of the basic tenets from muHAMed is that any Islamic law can be violated if the goal is to advance global Islam.

There is no negotiating with these people. Treaties are only entered into when the opposing force is too great, in order to allow time for the Islamists to gain enough strength to attack.


50 posted on 01/14/2008 8:05:32 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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