Posted on 01/14/2008 7:39:01 AM PST by Tolik
Hanson PUNK SLAPS that bitch Ghandi PING!
Its interesting to note that on a personal level liberal Hollywood has a dramatic increase of security personnel/bodyguards of former Israeli military personnel. (I gooogled it here: http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=307824). Liberal hypocrisy ?..
I knew Ghandi drank his own urine, but I didn’t know he dipped his pen in it too.
Breathtaking. I can only assume that Mr. Ghandi is willfully ignorant of the entirety of human history including that of his own country. How many Indian people have the Jews killed? How many have the Muslims killed?
Frankly the Jews aren't even the "biggest players" in violence within Israel itself. That is not the chorus of the international elite, of whom Mr. Ghandi is a member in good standing, but perhaps what is called for here is a little less groupthink and a whole lot more think. They might take his membership card away but it sure beats a gas chamber.
Of course the people of the world--all decent people everywhere and for all time--regret the Nazi holocaust. We regret all the horrors of the past and present: slavery, torture, injustice, genocide, child abuse, murder, rape, plague, famine--the list goes on and on--the trans-Atlantic slave trade, torture and death for public amusement in ancient Rome, child labor in the Industrial Revolution, slavery in ancient Greece, surgical procedures without anaesthesia on prisoners in China, American persecution of Indians, English persecution of the Irish, the Inquisition, slavery and torture and death by stoning in contemporary Islamic theocracites, "honor killings", the genocides in Rawanda, the Bataan Death March and inhuman treatment of prisoners of war under Imperial Japan, the Pol Pot regime...the list goes on and on and on...
Of course decent people regret such horrors. We regret injustice and all the horrors of life.
But we must not feel guilty about such things. Guilt, like pain, is useful only if it spurs us to meaningful action. Otherwise, guilt is self-defeating.
The first thing we must do is insist on truth and honesty--something that Leftists find difficult, and often impossible, to do.
Then we must resolve to do everything we can to prevent such things' happening again in the future--although, considering the past as prophesy, we must face the truth about the difficult of implementing this resolve.
And we must resolve that we--as individuals--will never participate in the implementation of such horrors.
There is as much good as evil in human nature--probably more--but we must never overlook the potential for evil within ourselves. Only by acknowledging it and resolving never to allow the evil within ourselves to become manifest can we prevent it.
Mother Teresa said that she decided to go to Calcutta when she looked inside herself and saw a Hitler lurking there.
This monster is within all of us, and only by recognizing it and resolving to prevent its becoming manifest in our actions can we save ourselves--and others--from the potential for evil.
The price of goodness--like liberty--is eternal vigilance.
And murky, sloppy logic and mendacity encourage--rather than discourage--evil.
Arun Gandhi, like his grandfather, is a political man, not a spiritual man - too wrapped up in the machinations of power and influence to be considered a credible commentator.
there were quite a few Indians killed under the british, not trying to defend the idiotic comments of Ghandi but to say that he was in no danger is not totally accurate.
As James D. Harris said on Charlie Sykes' show this morning, history doesn't really repeat, but it does rhyme.
In the course of two hundred plus years of British rule, with various uprisings and wars, plenty of Indians died.
But very few died at British hands during Gandhi's nonviolent resistance movement, and Gandhi himself ran no risk of being seized by British secret police and being gassed in an concentration camp.
Yep - if the Russians had won "The Great Game", the only thing that would have been accomplished by lying on the railroad tracks would have been to turn live Indians into dead ones.
"There is as much good as evil in human nature--probably more--but we must never overlook the potential for evil within ourselves. Only by acknowledging it and resolving never to allow the evil within ourselves to become manifest can we prevent it."
I see a usual response to the idea of the Jewish holocaust uniqueness - that a life is a life, and a Tutu, or a Cambodian, or a Gipsy, or anybody murdered by any -ism in the XX century is worthy a remembrance equally. Yes, true. Still, there is a reason why Jewish holocaust stands out among other evils. Its because it was perpetrated by a supposedly highly civilized society. There is only a handful of nations who could rival Germans in 1900 in the arena of human accomplishments: in business, science, music, industry, cinema, work ethic, comfort of living, arts - mixed and varied accomplishments. And then, before the eyes of one living generation, they perpetrated an industrial scale evil. I understand that its not PC and is a bigotry of low expectations that crimes of Japanese militarists, Khmer ruge, Hutus, Stalinists, Maoists, etc, etc might take a second place to German's first. IMHO, its that none of them were on the top of the world as high as Germans. How somebody so cultured is capable of such evil is mind-boggling. (like when a carrier criminal kills somebody its on page 12, if an upstanding citizen does - its page 1). Even from Jewish own experience in the WWI, German occupation forces in Ukraine, for example, were remarkably better than reds, whites, or miscellaneous local powers taking over during the Civil War there. Then in WWII they were totally different species.
Once again, the above is not to diminish sufferings of anybody else. To me, we need more reminder about all them, not less. My point is that the speed itself of Germans degrading from the top of the world, culturally and all, to the all infecting evil, is horrifying.
How true. Your comment reminded me of Dinesh D’Souza’s excellent book “What’s so great about America” were he remembers a history teacher he admired telling him that if Hitler had be running India, Gandhi would have been turned into a lampshade.
I hope I get the opportunity to use that line (”...lampshade”) on some peaceniks. Imagine the looks on their faces. It’s pretty much the reason why all the hypocritical peaceniks never march against the terrorists.
Nothing is more useless than a dead pacifist, except, perhaps, a live one.
I have lived in Germany. I have been to Dachau.
In the light of what you have said, Churchill's selection of the theme from Beethoven's Fifth Symphony was a stroke of genius.
For the exquisitely civilized German people to have degenerated into the horrors of the Third Reich exemplifies what I have said in post #25.
As much as we may deny it and wish it were not so, every on of us could repeat the horrors of the Nazis. To prevent it, we must recognize this potential and resolve that we will never allow it to happen.
Only by understanding that the monster that created the Nazi holocaust--and the millions exterminated by Marxism et al.--exists within each of us and resolving that it will never manifest its evil can each of us do what we can to prevent a recurrence of the horrors of the past.
Yes. The Nazi holocaust was unique.
When we are tempted to allow the monster within to express its evil, each of us must say no to it; each of us must tell Satan to go to hell; and each of us must submit to the love of God and allow this love to manifest itself.
I read at least one [and I think more] alternative history Sci Fi stories where Gandhi comes up against Nazi occupation of India. He doesn’t fare real well in those stories.
Dinesh D’sousa quoted one of his teachers in India who said that if Hitler had been running India as a colony, Gandhi would have been a lampshade [or words to that effect].
btt
A chicken terrorist.
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