Posted on 01/15/2008 6:18:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Those explanations do not satisfy Larry Kramer, founder of several AIDS advocacy groups. Mr. Kramer, 73 and a long-term survivor, said he had always suspected “it was only a matter of time before stuff like this happened” given the potency of the antiretroviral drugs. “How long will the human body be able to tolerate that constant bombardment?” he asked. “Well, we are now seeing that many bodies can’t. Once again, just as we thought we were out of the woods, sort of, we have good reason again to be really scared.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
GGG’s agenda was apparent, but his thought process was murky and not open to debate using reason. He was not willing to give any credence to other’s experiences. It was not worth my time to continue the discussion. Ping to GGG for courtesy.
jas3, please do no send messages to me anymore, and please do not follow me around from thread to thread. Thanks you—GGG
My mind is open to anything you are willing to discuss. I believe Duesberg to be correct because I believe he has discovered a profound scientific truth with respect to AIDS. If you are an honest person, then I welcome any questions/challenges you might have. And whatever you might think, one way or the other, this is most definately a conservative issue.
POLICY REVIEW (Hoover Inst.):
http://www.duesberg.com/about/pdpolicy.html
NATIONAL REVIEW:
http://www.duesberg.com/articles/tbcure.html
AMERICAN SPECTATOR
http://search.opinionarchives.com/Summary/AmericanSpectator/V25I5P18-1.htm
REASON MAGAZINE:
http://www.duesberg.com/articles/kmreason.html
REGNERY PUBLISHING (Largest conservative publisher in the USA)
Please stop following me from thread to thread, and please stop posting to me, jas3. Thank you.
It’s a curious philosophy that wants science “left to the free market” and then wants to be protected from the comptition.
Don’t do that again! By the time I got back from being this other person my dog had bitten me.
I am perfectly willing to discus this issue with anyone who has honest doubts or questions. This is a conservative issue. I will grant that it has not yet broken through to mainstream conservatives, but in order for it to do that it first has to have a chance to have it’s day in the sun. As I pointed out above, Duesberg’s challenge to the failed HIV-AIDS hypothesis has been published in National Review, Policy Review, American Spectator, Reason Magazine, World Magazine, and his book was published by Regnery, the largest conservative book publisher in the country. Surely that qualifies this issue to be discussed on FR????
couldn’t find a better choice of words huh?
Totally unconscious, but let’s face it....
Hah...looks like the dog bit post #130 too !
I wonder what was wrong with it?
:-/
jas3
The nuts and bolts of the science itself should be neither “liberal” nor “conservative”. It’s one thing to oppose someone else’s politicizing science to further a political agenda. It’s quite another to try and hijack the process for your own and claim it’s a matter of “principle”.
PS post #125 and look into the issue for yourself. If you have any questions or challenges, I am most willing to give it my best shot. If, on the other hand, your only interest is to belittle and poke fun, I’m not interested. The choice is up to you.
All the best—GGG
You are quite right. But if the science says one thing but the “experts” say something different, and the “experts” want to use said junk science to promote liberalism, then it most definitely is a conservative issue. Same goes for human caused global warming, etc.
There's more to establishing that to be the case than simply declaring the opposition to be wrong. If the guy's research and findings aren't withstanding peer review, the place to settle it is in the lab, not in th public square.
But what if the AIDS establishment has used its full weight to shut said scientist down. What if they have used their influence to take said scientist’s grants away? What if they have used their considerable influence to deny said scientists right to publish? What if they have used their influence to deny said scientists right of reply to science journal papers that have been published about him? What if they leaned on said scientist’s university to take away his grad-level courses? Where does said scientist to go then?
Actions have consequences, so do drugs....all of them including advil have side effects.
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