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Giant rat that once roamed the earth
Times Online ^
| January 15, 2008
| Lewis Smith
Posted on 01/15/2008 3:34:40 PM PST by Squidpup
The fossilised skull of a rat the size of a car has been unearthed. The creature lived about four million years ago, weighed about a tonne and ate mostly soft vegetation. It was so big that it probably spent much of its life semi-submerged in water, like a hippo, to reduce the stresses caused by its size.
Palaeontologists found the skull in rock deposits in Uruguay. It is believed to date back two to four million years to a time when giant wildlife was commonplace in South America.
The rodent, Josephoartigasia monesi, was uncovered by Andrés Rinderknecht and Ernesto Blanco. It has been nicknamed Mighty Mouse and is thought to have been similar to the capybara and pacarana, much smaller creatures that are still found in South America. Capybaras are the biggest living rodents at just over 60kg fully grown, while pacaranas weigh 15kg. The common rat weighs about 300g.
J. monesi is thought to have weighed about a tonne and the biggest specimens could have been more than 2.5 tonnes about the same as hippopotamuses, which range from 1.4 tonnes to 3.2 tonnes.
The rodent was estimated to be about 3m (10 feet) long and 1.5m tall. Its huge incisors were more than 30cm (12in) long, of which 10cm would have been exposed.
The incisors puzzled the researchers because they were much tougher than necessary for an animal that ate only soft plants. Dr Blanco suggested that they could have been used to fell trees like beavers do, or to fight off predators or courtship rivals.
It probably ate aquatic plants and fruits, and the environment probably was a forest near fresh water, Dr Blanco said. But much work is needed to have a definitive picture. We are working on biomechanical determination of the bite force to better understand this point.
It shared the Earth with sabre-tooth cats and giant predatory birds that did not fly but could run down prey at terrifying speeds. Its great bulk would have protected it from the killer birds, but its young would have been at risk.
The near-complete skull delighted palaeontologists studying giant South American rodents. Before, they had been limited to bone fragments.
Other teeth in the skull were too small to have allowed the animal to have chewed food well. Researchers concluded that it must have consumed soft vegetation, including fruit.
Rodents make up about 40 per cent of all mammals but the new South American species was still about twice the size of the next biggest, a South American species called Phoberomys.
The skull came from a type of rodent, known as dinomyids, that include todays pacaranas and which during the Miocene and Pliocene periods, from about 2 to 23 million years ago, underwent an evolutionary explosion creating many species in modern-day Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Venezuela, Bolivia and Colombia.
Dr Rinderknecht, of the National Museum of Natural History and Anthropology in Montevideo, the Uruguayan capital, and Dr Blanco, of the Institute of Physics in Montevideo, reported their findings in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.
TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: rat
of archeaological and political import
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:34:41 PM PST
by
Squidpup
To: blam
Rat the size of a car alert!
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:37:56 PM PST
by
JennysCool
(They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
To: Squidpup
ROUS Alert!
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:38:28 PM PST
by
batter
("Always take the offensive...Never Dig in." - Gen Patton)
To: Squidpup
...skull of a rat the size of a car has been unearthed.........It was so big that it probably spent much of its life semi-submerged in water, like a hippo, to reduce the stresses caused by its size.
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:38:43 PM PST
by
digger48
(http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
To: Squidpup
Rats the size of a car are nothing new. Ever been to Harlem?
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:04 PM PST
by
PeterFinn
(A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
To: JennysCool
And to think that cavemen once paid to see giant rats fight giant scorpions. < /sarcasm >
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:16 PM PST
by
weegee
(Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
To: Squidpup
The creature lived about four million years ago, weighed about a tonne and ate mostly soft vegetation. It was so big that it probably spent much of its life semi-submerged in water, like a hippo, to reduce the stresses caused by its size. OK, who's got the pics of Fat Ted (Drunken Murderer, MA) on the boat, with his huge belly & man-boobs? That's about the closest we'll get to an accurate representation of this RAT.
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:47 PM PST
by
Ancesthntr
(I’ve joined the Frederation.)
To: DaveLoneRanger
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:48 PM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: Squidpup
9
posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:51 PM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: Squidpup
10
posted on
01/15/2008 3:39:52 PM PST
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
To: Squidpup
I love this kind of stuff. Going out to my email list.
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:40:23 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Squidpup
To: digger48
You posted the pic while I was typing #7. Clearly, great minds think alike!
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:40:37 PM PST
by
Ancesthntr
(I’ve joined the Frederation.)
To: ElkGroveDan; digger48
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:41:12 PM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: Squidpup
Who else checked in just to see which Dem pictures would be posted?
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:41:22 PM PST
by
Cinnamon Girl
(OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:41:25 PM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:42:24 PM PST
by
Clay Moore
("My daddy says I'm this close to living in the yard." Ralph Wiggum)
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:43:45 PM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: digger48
Darn you digger48, you beat me to it! :)
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:44:05 PM PST
by
BigEdLB
(BigEd)
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:44:33 PM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: Squidpup

the Big Rat (brought to you by new york city unions).
The big loud rat, that is.
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:44:42 PM PST
by
the invisib1e hand
(if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
To: digger48
Thank you for posting someone from the other team before we get to the nasty internal bickering stuff
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:44:43 PM PST
by
Soliton
(McCain/Thompson 2008. Feingold for Secretary of the Treasury!)
To: PeterFinn
>>Rats the size of a car are nothing new. Ever been to Harlem<<
Ever been to New Orleans?
To: Squidpup
Giant Rat of Sumatra *ping*
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:45:15 PM PST
by
Bean Counter
(Stout Hearts...)
To: ElkGroveDan
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:46:15 PM PST
by
weegee
(Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
To: batter
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:47:26 PM PST
by
Uriah_lost
("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
To: Squidpup
The first democRAT, i bet.
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:52:26 PM PST
by
Waco
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:54:13 PM PST
by
Libloather
(Hillary donors find their way to the cover of Time. And the very next day they're doing it...)
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:54:44 PM PST
by
x
To: Squidpup
Henry Waxman’s long lost relative?
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:56:08 PM PST
by
SERKIT
("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
To: digger48
Damn if all the funny stuff hasn't been posted already. *sigh*
Doesn't pay to be late to the thread.
-Joan
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posted on
01/15/2008 3:58:24 PM PST
by
JoanVarga
("¿Por qué no te callas?")
To: Squidpup
"...the biggest specimens could have been more than 2.5 tonnes about the same as hippopotamuses"Hmm... Size of a hippopotamus? I think I have located one -
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:04:41 PM PST
by
Iron Munro
(Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
To: x; Squidpup; digger48; ElkGroveDan
To: Squidpup
The fossilised skull of a rat the size of a car has been unearthed. The creature lived about four million years agoI didn't know they had cars four million years ago.
To: batter
I don’t think they really exist.
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:06:49 PM PST
by
LexBaird
(Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
To: Squidpup; Slings and Arrows
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:06:57 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: GreenHornet
I didn't know they had cars four million years ago. Of course they did. What else could have caused the globe to be so warm?
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:09:04 PM PST
by
LexBaird
(Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
To: Squidpup
“ROOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!”
[ “Here, kitty, kitty!!!” ]
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:09:09 PM PST
by
RichInOC
(No! BAD Rich!)
To: Squidpup
"Giant rat that once roamed the earth"
?
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:17:22 PM PST
by
Jedi Master Pikachu
( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
To: ElkGroveDan
Arg. Another freeper already posted him.
Rats. .
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posted on
01/15/2008 4:18:31 PM PST
by
Jedi Master Pikachu
( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
To: Squidpup
Ted Kennedy is a giant RAT.
To: Squidpup
Sounds more like a giant nutria.........
To: digger48
That’s the first picture that came to my head!
To: Squidpup
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posted on
01/15/2008 8:29:24 PM PST
by
ARE SOLE
(Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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