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"It sucks being in Iraq"
Warwick (RI) Beacon ^ | 01/15/2008 | RUSSELL J. MOORE

Posted on 01/15/2008 3:54:16 PM PST by got_moab?

Albert Jordan, 21, isn’t one to hold back, especially when he describes what it’s like being a soldier in Iraq.

“It sucks…It’s definitely an experience, but it sucks being in Iraq,” said Jordan, a U.S. Army Specialist, during an interview with the Beacon, a day after returning home from his first tour of duty.

“At first it’s kind of exciting because you’re doing different things. You’re doing what you see in video games, but then a couple of IED’s [improvised explosive devices] go off or a couple of bullets go by your head and you go, ‘Whoa, what is this I got myself into?’ And then you start thinking too much.”

The 21-year-old 2004 Pilgrim graduate who lives on Parkview Avenue joined the Army in May of 2005, and was sent to Baghdad, the world’s most dangerous city, in 2006. He spent both his 20th and 21st birthday in Baghdad.

To illustrate the extreme danger soldiers face on a daily basis, Jordan told a story.

One afternoon in Baghdad, Jordan and his comrades were on patrol. They noticed a mound of fresh dirt in the yard of a residence—a telltale sign of a hidden weapons cache. After affirming their suspicions and finding barrels full of weapons, the group followed protocol and checked the lot next door.

Jordan, a staff sergeant and an interpreter approached an Iraqi man in the next house and began to question him.

“We were just kind of standing around, and then we heard a single crack and the wall, just a few feet away from my face, exploded. It went Ka-boom,” said Jordan.

He was the target of a sniper.

“We didn’t know where it was coming from, but someone’s not just going to shoot randomly…We got out of there and I was like ‘Wow, I almost got shot in the face,’” he said.

The story isn’t an isolated incident. It’s one of many that Jordan chose randomly.

That’s the reality of being an Army Specialist in Baghdad. The threat of a sniper’s bullet, an explosion of an improvised bomb or even a drive-by shooting, is as pervasive as the sand during a windstorm.

“You go out and you say to yourself, ‘Is this going to be the last day that I woke up,’” said Jordan.

How does one deal with the reality that death could realistically come at any given second?

“You just don’t think about it. You try not to as hard as you can,” said Jordan.

As time passed, Jordan began to question the purpose of the mission.

“Every day someone is getting killed, and we’d ask ourselves, ‘What is this for,’” Jordan said.

Jordan granted that while he doesn’t like being in a war zone, it does come with the territory. What makes the Iraq war an even harder pill for him to swallow is the fact that he doesn’t understand the rationale for it. After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes.

Some will argue that America is establishing democracy in the Middle East, but Jordan counters that democracy is something that must come from within, it can’t be imposed.

Most troubling, he said, is the fact that since the invasion, the military has acted less and less like a military and more like police.

“We’re not police officers. We’re trained to go and kill people in battles, not keep them in line,” said Jordan.

Like many in the private sector, while he doesn’t agree with the mission set up by his superiors, he follows orders dutifully.

Jordan said he believes the surge has been successful in reducing violence over the last year, but notes that it also increases the likelihood of soldiers being killed because with more American troops comes more targets for the Iraqi insurgents.

And although he doesn’t agree with the war, he rejects the notion of setting timetables for withdrawals, as some prominent Democrats have suggested. It wouldn’t be wise, Jordan said, to tell an enemy when you plan on retreating.

He believes the U.S. will treat Iraq like South Korea, Japan and Germany and remain there indefinitely.

Jordan joined the Army for a number of reasons.

First and foremost, he comes from a military family. His sister, Shannon Wyatt, is also a member of the Army. His older brother, Don Moyer, a Warwick lawyer, was also in the military before becoming a lawyer.

As a child, Jordan always wanted to become a career military man. But he didn’t get around to joining the Army until a couple years after graduating from Pilgrim. He lacked direction, and decided to do his country a favor by enlisting in the Army.

After completing his first stint in Iraq, Jordan said he has no intention of becoming a career military man.

Despite his distaste for the current war, Jordan deeply respects the military, and is thankful for the benefits of being a soldier. The tax-free pay he receives as a soldier is better than that he earned at his last job before enlisting—he worked at Ocean State Job Lot. Also, before he enlisted in the Army, he was in debt. Now he’s debt free.

When he completes his service, he hopes to either parlay his military experience into a position at a local police department, or attend college.

He fully expects to get sent back to Iraq sometime next year, but he isn’t looking forward to it.

“I’m not happy over there. I’m not happy,” said Jordan.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: Rhode Island; War on Terror
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I hate to think ill of a guy who chooses to fight, but as the relative of someone over there now, all I can think is WTF????
1 posted on 01/15/2008 3:54:18 PM PST by got_moab?
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To: got_moab?; All

“I’m not happy over there. I’m not happy,” said Jordan.

Then why the hell did you sign up during war time?

Where the hell did you think they were going to send you kid?


2 posted on 01/15/2008 3:56:20 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: got_moab?
What makes the Iraq war an even harder pill for him to swallow is the fact that he doesn’t understand the rationale for it. After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes.

He'll be a democrat in congress here soon. And he'll be the dem nominee for president in 2024.

3 posted on 01/15/2008 3:58:01 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: got_moab?
As my platoon sergeant used to say (but not to me!), "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it."
4 posted on 01/15/2008 3:58:46 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: got_moab?; SandRat; jazusamo; jveritas

Good frickin grief. This coupled with the NY Times article on deranged vets is all the MSM has to offer in coverage of this heroic mission. **** them.


5 posted on 01/15/2008 3:59:36 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: clintonh8r

Mine told me that I couldn’t really complain because I volunteered to join. LOL!


6 posted on 01/15/2008 3:59:42 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: got_moab?
135,000 on active duty, and they have to track down "Bobby Boo-Hoo" ?????
7 posted on 01/15/2008 3:59:42 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: got_moab?
"And although he doesn’t agree with the war, "

Moron for joining.

8 posted on 01/15/2008 4:00:53 PM PST by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: got_moab?

Every soldier I’ve ever known, complains. The food, the CO, the enemy, the quarters...it’s an art form:)

This guy though, is whining- not complaining. BIG difference.


9 posted on 01/15/2008 4:03:00 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: got_moab?
"As a child, Jordan always wanted to become a career military man. But he didn’t get around to joining the Army until a couple years after graduating from Pilgrim. He lacked direction, and decided to do his country a favor take advantage of his country by enlisting in the Army."

There...fixed it

10 posted on 01/15/2008 4:03:04 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: got_moab?

We don’t need to criticize him. If this gets out to the guys he serves with he will get a raft of sh*t, at the very least.


11 posted on 01/15/2008 4:04:09 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: txradioguy

I don’t blame him for a word he said. I am sure nobody LIKES being in Iraq. But he didn’t run away to Canada or shoot himself in the foot. He remained and did his duty as he was called to do. He also never spewed any left wing “its all about oil” crap. Nobody on here wants to take sniper fire at work tommorow. Give the guy a break. He did his duty and it sounds like when he is called, he will do it again.


12 posted on 01/15/2008 4:04:27 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: got_moab?
Of course it sucks being in Iraq. It sucked being at Guadalcanal or Bastogne or the Chosin Reservoir. It sucked being at Valley Forge.
13 posted on 01/15/2008 4:04:39 PM PST by quadrant
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To: got_moab?
That’s the reality of being an Army Specialist in Baghdad. The threat of a sniper’s bullet, .............

Yah, sorta like living in any U.S. inner city...

14 posted on 01/15/2008 4:05:20 PM PST by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: got_moab?
He lacked direction, and decided to do his country a favor by enlisting in the Army.

favors and duty rarely coincide,but the reporter has his slant....sit down talk with a kid,let the kid talk, and print your story....see thats what the kid said, see, see...and Newt Gingrich's mom is still right, she is a bitch, ain't that right Connie?

15 posted on 01/15/2008 4:05:52 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: txradioguy

He was recruited by his video games. If his enlistment isn’t up, he’ll regret this when he gets back to his unit.


16 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:16 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: txradioguy

My next question is: how many soldiers did they have to ask, “hey, do you hate being stuck over here in Iraq?” before they got the answer they wanted.


17 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:18 PM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: pissant

This guys a sniveler. There’s always going to be some, even in an all volunteer Army. The enemedia has a talent for finding them.


18 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:24 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Riodacat

More Americans were killed in Detroit by enemy fire last month than Baghdad.


19 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:36 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: got_moab?
...then a couple of IED’s [improvised explosive devices] go off or a couple of bullets go by your head and you go, ‘Whoa, what is this I got myself into?’ And then you start thinking too much.”

I don't like to criticize any serviceman or woman, so all I'll say is: Wow, seems like the boy matured in the blink of an eye.

20 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:50 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: txradioguy

And he’s an INTERPRETER???? I would NOT have him dealing with ANY LOCALS! BEWARE.


21 posted on 01/15/2008 4:06:53 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: got_moab?

Wow, a soldier not happy in a war zone, that has probably never happened before President Bush was CIC.


22 posted on 01/15/2008 4:07:57 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: got_moab?
Hey, it sucked and he did it and from what he says he'll do it again. If I see him I'll buy him a drink.

Soldiers do it even when it sucks, the kid is a soldier.

23 posted on 01/15/2008 4:09:27 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: got_moab?

It’s every soldier’s God given right to gripe. I thought Vietnam sucked. In 1945, my Dad thought the South Pacific sucked. In 1943, my uncle thought Europe, viewed from a B-25, sucked. It’s not a pleasant job, and no one has to pretend it is; it just has to be done. Even when it’s FUBAR.


24 posted on 01/15/2008 4:10:12 PM PST by Spok
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To: got_moab?; Travis McGee; Lurker; river rat; hiredhand; MileHi

Dear Jordan.....

You bitch whine and complain all you want while yer in harms way. It’s a GI’s right too do so .......just be careful ya vent too .....just other GI’s and not the public.

Then ya become something I do not condone at all !

Thanks for taking your turn in the barrel Jordan. I didn’t like SEA, SWA, Grenada, Panama, Beirut or Mogadishu etc etc either...bitched like it was the 28th day every day and it did me no good but piss off my team and those around me so I quit when I learned that hard lesson.

Suck it up troop and get even , not mad. If ya want to make it a career ya have to get yer head straight NOW !

Stay Safe !!


25 posted on 01/15/2008 4:10:51 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Doogle

this is my feeling too, this reporter has an agenda (you can tell by reading some other recent news stories he penned in the Beacon) and he uses this kid to give that agenda some street cred. I just felt kind of bad reading it, almost like the kid didn’t know what he was getting into (when he gave this interview)..


26 posted on 01/15/2008 4:11:10 PM PST by got_moab? (got_moab? now comes complete with 50% MORE Hyper-conservatism!!)
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To: jazusamo

They use anecdotal snivelers to paint the mission.


27 posted on 01/15/2008 4:11:15 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Ann Archy

IMHO...he got a job with a fat bonus that he thought would keep him safe away form the front lines.

The recruiter probably had some hand in fostering that idea.


28 posted on 01/15/2008 4:12:01 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: got_moab?
"What makes the Iraq war an even harder pill for him to swallow is the fact that he doesn’t understand the rationale for it. After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes."

The Hussein regime never honored the armistice/surrender agreement.

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29 posted on 01/15/2008 4:12:14 PM PST by avacado
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To: Uriah_lost
We don’t need to criticize him. If this gets out to the guys he serves with he will get a raft of sh*t, at the very least.

What, do you think he's the only guy over there with those opinions? Most likely everyone in his unit feels the same way. They sit around between patrols saying to each other, "God, this place sucks!"

30 posted on 01/15/2008 4:12:20 PM PST by Drew68
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To: got_moab?
We were just kind of standing around, and then we heard a single crack and the wall, just a few feet away from my face, exploded. It went Ka-boom,” said Jordan. He was the target of a sniper

Yeah, I've heard that, that in a war zone there's a good chance someone might shoot at you. Where'd this guy get his training, Miss Prim's Finishing School? WTF indeed.

31 posted on 01/15/2008 4:12:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: jazusamo; pissant
This guy's a sniveler.

Yep, if Patton were still around he'd probably slap him, too... /grin

There’s always going to be some, even in an all volunteer Army. The enemedia has a talent for finding them.

Which is why we need to go back to the tried and true system of military control and censorship of the press in a war zone which was imposed and enforced by the Democrat administrations of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman.

32 posted on 01/15/2008 4:13:09 PM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: got_moab?

Not a chance in hell I’m trusting a reporter who writes as this one does to give any soldier an honest quotation. This story drips with agenda. IMHO.


33 posted on 01/15/2008 4:14:34 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SAMS
My next question is: how many soldiers did they have to ask, “hey, do you hate being stuck over here in Iraq?” before they got the answer they wanted.

Probably one. Try finding guys to say, "I love it over here! This place is awesome!" Good luck with that.

Man, there's a lot of delusional people over here lately.

34 posted on 01/15/2008 4:14:38 PM PST by Drew68
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To: pissant

Blue State Media Blather.


35 posted on 01/15/2008 4:15:16 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: When do we get liberated?

“I don’t blame him for a word he said.”

I do. It was a left-wing political speech based on left-wing nonsense. America didn’t ‘impose’ democracy on Iraq, as he accuses. The Iraqis freely choose democracy, despite death threats from Al Qaeda. The elections exceeded international stadards and they elected a pro-western government.


36 posted on 01/15/2008 4:15:48 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: tarheelswamprat

I’m fine with that.


37 posted on 01/15/2008 4:15:54 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: got_moab?

It wouldn’t surprise me if this guy completely made up the story about even going to Iraq, or even being in the military.


38 posted on 01/15/2008 4:16:02 PM PST by GOPyouth ("It's Back-to-Basics time for American Conservatism!" - Rush Limbaugh 01-04-08)
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To: got_moab?

After reading this and noting the agenda of the reporter I wonder how many of the quotes that are attributed to this soldier are accurate? Every time I have been associated with a news story they end up putting words in my mouth that I didn’t say!


39 posted on 01/15/2008 4:16:37 PM PST by landerwy (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness!)
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To: txradioguy
Image hosted by Photobucket.com ya don't have to like it... ya just gotta do it!!!

did he really think he would LIKE being in Iraq when he joined???

40 posted on 01/15/2008 4:17:24 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: got_moab?

Don’t get me wrong, but ... He gets paid to do what he does and I am VERY grateful for EVERYTHING!

My boss requires me to produce results and not to complain.

This guy has a hidden agenda and it STINKS!


41 posted on 01/15/2008 4:17:30 PM PST by Dacula (So long and thanks for all the fish!)
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To: Doogle

"..well Scooter,when ya get back to your Unit, ya might wanna leave this reporter conversation on the back burner"

42 posted on 01/15/2008 4:20:09 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: got_moab?

“The 21-year-old 2004 Pilgrim graduate who lives on Parkview Avenue joined the Army in May of 2005....As time passed, Jordan began to question the purpose of the mission......What makes the Iraq war an even harder pill for him to swallow is the fact that he doesn’t understand the rationale for it. After all, Iraq never attacked America, he notes.....”

hate to say it...this is like a vegetarian going to McDonalds, ordering three Big Macs, then complaining about eating meat after digesting them all....


43 posted on 01/15/2008 4:20:16 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Chode

Not sure what he was thinking. Iraq wasn’t my first combat deployment...I knew it would suck going in...didn’t change my opinion of the importance of the mission or the job that needed to be done.


44 posted on 01/15/2008 4:21:05 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: quadrant

You, Sir, understand.


45 posted on 01/15/2008 4:21:08 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: got_moab?
Well I hope this POS finds happiness working at a drive through window at McDonald's...


46 posted on 01/15/2008 4:23:28 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: got_moab?

The “Iraq never attacked the US” quote is pure anti-war dogma. I suspect a “winter soldier” aspect to this story.


47 posted on 01/15/2008 4:23:30 PM PST by pfflier
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To: got_moab?
As time passed, Jordan began to question the purpose of the mission. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thats when he became a liberal-appeaser.

"An appeaser is someone who wants to feed everyone else to the crocodile, hoping that he will be eaten last."-Winston Churchill.

F'n Cowherd.

STFU and walk the line.

48 posted on 01/15/2008 4:24:48 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: pfflier; All

This is one of those instances where I’d love to have the full power of Lexis/Nexis to find out how may thimes the NY Slimes has quoted this kid before.


49 posted on 01/15/2008 4:26:48 PM PST by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: tarheelswamprat

I tend to agree with that, there’s no excuse for the enemedia aiding the enemy.


50 posted on 01/15/2008 4:28:09 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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