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HUCK, THE CONSTITUTION AND 'GOD'S STANDARDS'
MSNBC ^ | January 15, 2008 | MSNBC

Posted on 01/15/2008 4:59:40 PM PST by america4vr

Huckabee's closing argument to voters here this evening featured a few new stories and two prolonged sections on illegal immigration and Christian values.

These two topics usually feature prominently in Huckabee's stump speech, but last night he got specific, promising to build a border fence within 18 months if elected and elaborating on his belief that the constitution needs to be amended.

"[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that's what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards," Huckabee said, referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

Huckabee often refers to the need to amend the constitution on these grounds, but he has never so specifically called for the Constitution to be brought within "God's standards," which are themselves debated amongst religious scholars. As a closing statement he asked the room of nearly 500 supporters to "pray and then work hard, and in that order," to help him secure a victory in Tuesday's GOP primary.

Tomorrow Huckabee will visit two polling places in the morning before taking off for South Carolina where he will watch Michigan's returns come in.

(Excerpt) Read more at firstread.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christian; christianworldview; christianwrldviewnot; huckabee
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No matter how he phrases it, Huckabee surely knows that his desire to amend the Constitution to reflect practices, beliefs he calls God's Standards violates the separation of Church and State and that being unconstitutional has zero chance of ever getting out of the gate. So why does he even bother to make such foolish statements?
1 posted on 01/15/2008 4:59:41 PM PST by america4vr
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Because he continues to undertake a maximal effort to dupe evengelicals into voting for him. He’s the Manchurian Candidate. I wonder if he like Slick, is, not only another man from Hope, but also, is taking ChiCOM money?


2 posted on 01/15/2008 5:02:21 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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“So why does he even bother to make such foolish statements?”

Same reason he says he’s in favor of the Fair Tax. He knows it will swing some emotional votes his way, then if he ever actually won he would never have to go through with it because it would never pass.

Trying to have it both ways, according to his Clintonesqe nature.


3 posted on 01/15/2008 5:03:33 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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This one statement, ONE STATEMENT, will be the downfall of Huckabee if he gets the nod.

And it will also be the downfall of Christianity in the United States, as well as all Christians.

As if Christians already didn't have stereotypes to fight against.

4 posted on 01/15/2008 5:04:01 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: america4vr

I think this guy is Hillary’s big plant designed to make Christians look really, really bad.


5 posted on 01/15/2008 5:07:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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The liberals love this kind of stuff. The left wing blogs can use his comments out of context to imply conservatives want a theocracy. Huck is a really a moron.


6 posted on 01/15/2008 5:07:43 PM PST by camerakid400
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And it will also be the downfall of Christianity in the United States, as well as all Christians.

get some chicken soup and curl up with a nice book.

7 posted on 01/15/2008 5:09:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can't stand the heat, get out of the melting pot.)
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The man from Hope promises false hope.

To make such a promise as he does is ludicrous.
For people to buy into it is alarming.


8 posted on 01/15/2008 5:09:34 PM PST by donnab (ordinary men and women do extraordinary things....watch us.)
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“So why does he even bother to make such foolish statements?”

Because he’s a fool.


9 posted on 01/15/2008 5:10:41 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: the invisib1e hand

Nope, I’m fighting, because I know Huckabee does not represent me as a Christian. And I certainly want nothing to do with his charlatan ways.


10 posted on 01/15/2008 5:10:56 PM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: america4vr

Oh, brother.


11 posted on 01/15/2008 5:11:27 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: the invisib1e hand

“I think this guy is Hillary’s big plant designed to make Christians look really, really bad.”

It’s working.


12 posted on 01/15/2008 5:12:48 PM PST by EEDUDE
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No matter how he phrases it, Huckabee surely knows that his desire to amend the Constitution to reflect practices, beliefs he calls God's Standards violates the separation of Church and State and that being unconstitutional has zero chance of ever getting out of the gate. So why does he even bother to make such foolish statements?

Actually, amending the Constitution doesn't violate the separation of Church and State because that Constitutional provision is directed to Congress against cutting one church a special deal not given to others or against prohibiting the free exercise of religion. Let's not lose sight of what the Constitution actually says in favor of loony extrapolations.
13 posted on 01/15/2008 5:14:05 PM PST by aruanan
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No matter how he phrases it, Huckabee surely knows that his desire to amend the Constitution to reflect practices, beliefs he calls God's Standards violates the separation of Church and State and that being unconstitutional has zero chance of ever getting out of the gate. So why does he even bother to make such foolish statements?

Nonsense.

Huckabee shouldn't be the nominee of our party but that doesn't give you license to spout crap. Huckabees motivations for amendming the Constitution are not unconstituional. It's called freedom of religion.

14 posted on 01/15/2008 5:14:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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It does sound as if Huckabee wants to establish a theocracy. That is sufficient reason to oppose his candidacy. We do not want to establish a theocracy, no matter which religion is in charge. The inevitable result of establishing a theocracy is the establishment of an unholy inquisition. I call it unholy, because it not really concerned with serving God, it is simply a way to extort money out of people. An inquisition is also a delight for sick, sadistic bastards, because it gives them a legally sanctioned way to indulge in torture.


15 posted on 01/15/2008 5:14:53 PM PST by punster
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I do, though, believe that Huck is some kind of dumb thing that rhymes with his abbreviation for suggesting it in his typical pandering way. That in itself is an abuse of religion for his own personal and political gain.


16 posted on 01/15/2008 5:16:09 PM PST by aruanan
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No matter how he phrases it, Huckabee surely knows that his desire to amend the Constitution to reflect practices, beliefs he calls God's Standards violates the separation of Church and State and that being unconstitutional has zero chance of ever getting out of the gate.

"Endowed by the Creator" probably upsets you too. One, an amendment to the constitution can't be unconstitutional by definition. Two, a religious motivation even for a bill in congress isn't unconstitutional unless it contains language establishing a state religion.

17 posted on 01/15/2008 5:18:17 PM PST by Soliton (McCain/Thompson 2008. Feingold for Secretary of the Treasury!)
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"[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution

Just the ones who... you know, actually respect the Constitution.

Time to say good-bye to this clown.

18 posted on 01/15/2008 5:18:39 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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Nothing wrong with THE CONSTITUTION, Huck, leave it alone!
Compared to the minds that drafted THE CONSTITUTION, Huck, you are a cretin, or a craven politician, oops, did I just say something redundant?


19 posted on 01/15/2008 5:19:47 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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Michael Dale Huckabee uses religion
to cover up his liberal, nanny state,
open border record.

Total fraud!


20 posted on 01/15/2008 5:22:49 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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