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Found Objects: Katie's Big Night in New Hampshire (Must See)
MyDamnChannel ^ | 01/15/08 | Couric-CBS Raw Footage

Posted on 01/15/2008 6:24:44 PM PST by torchthemummy

Drudge had this linked so I want to give him credit but the link is directly to the site with the clip. Must See TV!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anchor; cbsnews; couric; election; katietheclown; newhampshire; nh2008
This is one of the most illuminating and fascinating bits of behind-the-scene clips of an anchor I have ever seen. It consists of snippets of Couric during broadcast breaks on the night of the NH primary. According to Harry Shearer (of Simpson's fame) this is Couric's first anchoring job on an election night. I'm not sure about that but this collection of moments is raw and eye-opening in regards to Couric's complete lack of knowledge on the very basics of the status of the key players in the primary fights. You can't expect an anchor to know everything but it is clear that Couric needs all the help she can get and needs some filling in on the most basic of facts that she surely reported on just nights before (the Obama surge shown in polls for example) and is a must see.
1 posted on 01/15/2008 6:24:45 PM PST by torchthemummy
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To: torchthemummy

I thought it showed Katie as quite personable. I expected her to be a total witch with a capital B, but she was actually somewhat likeable. And completely ignorant!


2 posted on 01/15/2008 6:27:06 PM PST by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: torchthemummy
She is the poster girl for the concept of "Empty Vessel"

And I'll wager that Dan Rather isn't one bit smarter

3 posted on 01/15/2008 6:28:02 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: torchthemummy

self ping


4 posted on 01/15/2008 6:28:34 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: pianomikey

agree. the video was tame. not much to see there.


5 posted on 01/15/2008 6:28:36 PM PST by robomatik (thompson/hunter '08 or hunter/thompson '08)
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To: torchthemummy

bttt 4later


6 posted on 01/15/2008 6:28:47 PM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: basil

Page holder for tomorrow.


7 posted on 01/15/2008 6:28:54 PM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: torchthemummy

I recall couric going into an extreme hissy fit during the florida voting debacle.


8 posted on 01/15/2008 6:29:17 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: torchthemummy

I thought it was stupid and illuminated nothing. I clicked away after a minute or two. I’m thinking they release this stuff on purpose to show people she’s real and not actually a total bitch. But who f-in cares??


9 posted on 01/15/2008 6:31:16 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: pianomikey
I thought it showed Katie as quite personable. I expected her to be a total witch with a capital B, but she was actually somewhat likeable. And completely ignorant!

I agree. In fact I think the headline on Drudge was unfair. Other than a light bitch about the mic she was relatively likeable.

Katie is not a complete lightweight in regards to HOW she appears - she did Today for years so she has more broadcast time than others combined. But if you ever saw the movie "Broadcast News" she comes across as the William Hurt character - attractive and on-camera savy but lacking the most basic knowledge of the subjects they are reporting on.

10 posted on 01/15/2008 6:32:31 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: pianomikey
And completely ignorant!

Well, when you are “perky”, ignorance is ok. ;-)

11 posted on 01/15/2008 6:33:19 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: torchthemummy

What a waste of time. There’s nothing interesting there. She’s just working.


12 posted on 01/15/2008 6:33:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: torchthemummy

Very unprofessional and lacking of decent comportment. Self-absorbed and second-rate...on display.


13 posted on 01/15/2008 6:33:50 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: torchthemummy

The only fun thing was hearing Katie Couric swear.


14 posted on 01/15/2008 6:38:00 PM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Huck
I'm just one of the guys video. Yea Right
15 posted on 01/15/2008 6:38:56 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: torchthemummy
"Can't I say "dramatic" Pentagon papers? Can't we make it more "dramatic?"

"And Rudy's DEAD [throat-slitting hand motion.]"

CLAAssy.

16 posted on 01/15/2008 6:39:09 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Huck
I thought it was stupid and illuminated nothing. I clicked away after a minute or two. I’m thinking they release this stuff on purpose to show people she’s real and not actually a total bitch. But who f-in cares??

If you had seen the whole thing you would have seen the complete feeding of basic facts she should already know. She confers with presumably her producers on how to make the coverage more dramatic, in essence showing an editorial instinct that happens to push the view to the left somewhat.

Anyhow - you didn't see the whole thing so why am I even trying to respond to your "stupid and illuminated nothing" viewpoint. I guess since you didn't see the whole thing - and in the parlance of your own post - "who f-in cares" about your opinion on the clip?

17 posted on 01/15/2008 6:40:13 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: Miss Behave

It sounded like, at first, she was pronouncing PentagOn as PentagEen. Could have been the “cold” I suppose.


18 posted on 01/15/2008 6:42:42 PM PST by AFreeBird (Fred 08)
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To: ClearCase_guy
What a waste of time. There’s nothing interesting there. She’s just working.

Sorry. I thought the clip showed clearly that a big-time player in the left-leaning MSM, with 24/7 to learn about the biggest story of the year in progress, showed an amazing lack of knowledge on a subject she reports on daily. The News Anchor Empress Wears No Clothes.

19 posted on 01/15/2008 6:44:23 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: Miss Behave
"Can't I say "dramatic" Pentagon papers? Can't we make it more "dramatic?"Exactly! That was such an illuminating moment that shows the power an anchor has. A single word such as "dramatic" places a complete different emphasis on the story. I'm not even saying it is a wrong characterization - I'm just saying it illustrates the power of a word and the power of the person that has the last say in whether it is inserted/used or not.
20 posted on 01/15/2008 6:48:04 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: torchthemummy

Thanks for this insight.

News anchors are not journalists but actors—chosen for their looks, broadcast voice and “personality”—who read a script someone else has written in front of a camera.


21 posted on 01/15/2008 6:49:32 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: torchthemummy

i don’t think that it’s a requirement for anchors to carry a mensa membership card. just the ability to read text and apply foundation. :)


22 posted on 01/15/2008 6:49:42 PM PST by robomatik (thompson/hunter '08 or hunter/thompson '08)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Would that we could all be paid a ton of money for being a damned Buffoon. I am actually embarrassed for the Twit!


23 posted on 01/15/2008 6:50:02 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

beat me by 10 secs.


24 posted on 01/15/2008 6:50:19 PM PST by robomatik (thompson/hunter '08 or hunter/thompson '08)
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To: torchthemummy

I watched this this morning and think the picture they had of her on Drudge was not representative of the clip. Katie came across as amusing and got along well with her staff- that said... she still give me a migraine. The clip also goes to show how “talking heads” are really just that “talking heads.”


25 posted on 01/15/2008 6:52:48 PM PST by zadox
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To: doc1019

“Well, when you are “perky”, ignorance is ok. ;-)”

And another thing in her favor: Back in her glory days on the TODAY Show, she was really slick at putting a condom on a cucumber. What a lady!


26 posted on 01/15/2008 6:53:49 PM PST by Tucker39 (Just because I'm paranoid is no sign they're not really out to get me!)
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To: torchthemummy
Geez ... I thought you could place Katie in Sid Blumenthals rental car when he was pulled over and arrested on a aggravated DUI charge at 0130 on the Monday prior to the Tuesday NH primary. That would explain the media blackout on the incident.
27 posted on 01/15/2008 6:53:50 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: AFreeBird
Yeah, she had trouble with it twice. This was the real Katie--not nearly as "bright" as she likes to be viewed when on-camera.

Why does she always act like a perpetual pre-teen, stuck in that stage of emotional development?

She and it are tiresome.

28 posted on 01/15/2008 6:54:23 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Kirkwood

I remember that. I specifically remember her slamming something down on the desk and saying “I thought Gore already won, this isn’t right!!!”


29 posted on 01/15/2008 6:56:32 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: torchthemummy
Why should she know anything? That's not her job. Her job is to look good, speak clearly, and anchor the news(toss it off to field reporters, narrate transitions, etc.

I know it's easy sport to harp on Couric. I'm no fan. But this is just silly.

30 posted on 01/15/2008 6:57:24 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: pianomikey

bump


31 posted on 01/15/2008 6:57:51 PM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: robomatik
Dan Rather is the classic example. Wikepedia (Free Republic mentioned):

On September 8, 2004, Rather reported on 60 Minutes Wednesday that a series of memos critical of President George W. Bush’s Texas Air National Guard service record had been discovered in the personal files of Lt. Bush’s former commanding officer, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian. The authenticity of these documents, initially based on their being proportionally printed, was quickly called into question by a small group of conservative bloggers, leading to claims that the memos were forgeries. The accusations then spread over the following days into mainstream media outlets including The Washington Post, The New York Times[6], and the Chicago Sun-Times.

Rather and CBS initially defended the story, insisting that the documents had been authenticated by experts. CBS was contradicted by some of the experts it originally cited, of the four experts they claimed, they all retracted later. CBS later reported that their source for the documents, former Texas Army National Guard officer Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, had misled the network about how he had obtained them.

On September 20, CBS retracted the story. Rather stated, “if I knew then what I know now, I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question.”The controversy has been referred to by some as “Memogate” and “Rathergate.”

Following an investigation commissioned by CBS, CBS fired story producer Mary Mapes and asked three other producers connected with the story to resign. Many believe Rather’s retirement was hastened by this incident. (Mapes had been in contact with the Kerry Campaign during preparation of the story and gave them copies of the fabricated documents.)

Conservative blog sites, especially the Free Republic and Little Green Footballs,widely believe and have repeatedly claimed that the documents are forgeries that were created in Microsoft Word and then repeatedly photocopied or faxed to make them look aged. On Thursday, September 20, 2007, Rather was interviewed on Larry King Live commenting “Nobody has proved that they were fraudulent, much less a forgery. ... The truth of this story stands up to this day.”

32 posted on 01/15/2008 6:58:28 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: torchthemummy
And she obviously wanted to add "dramatic" to have the ADDED INTEREST element in *her* as the reader.

Yeah, Katie, it's all about you. Right. Think highly of yourself much?

33 posted on 01/15/2008 6:59:48 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: torchthemummy
From 45 years of TV news experience, I can tell you that this is very normal. That is very good... and very bad.

First, the good. Despite a heavy cold, she is relaxed, having fun with the staff, not a prima-donna. If you, the anchor, are having “fun” so are the viewers, and that is good.

The bad. She obviously does not know or understand the most basic elements of the story, the WSTVC (Why Should The Viewers Care) the backstory, the "whatsnext," or even any understanding of the whole process. She does not even know the simple facts, such as dates.

Peter Jennings would have been very briefed before the show started. With a few updates from the results desk, he could have gone on for six hours hours.... without repeating himself.

Want to see how good it can be? Watch the tape of Jim McKay, a sportscaster (!), doing the ONLY live coverage of the Munich Olympic massacre. Watch Jennings on 9/11 or Challenger. Watch any of us on Nov 22, 63. Watch my old Gulf of Tonkin tapes (only guy on air at 2:00 AM, with every other reporter drunk after the close of 64 Republican Convention.) We were good. She is a talking head ditz.

34 posted on 01/15/2008 7:03:01 PM PST by MindBender26 (Is FR worth our time anymore? All the "fun" seems to be gone ?)
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To: Reagan79

“I remember that. I specifically remember her slamming something down on the desk and saying “I thought Gore already won, this isn’t right!!!”

Well, that’s not what I recall at all. It was more of a lot of sulking, pouting, head shaking, and refusing to even discuss that Bush was winning the state.


35 posted on 01/15/2008 7:05:44 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Tucker39

Not to mention the ole flashlight up the butt (endoscopy), on national TV, program. Yes, what a lady.


36 posted on 01/15/2008 7:05:59 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: Huck
I know it's easy sport to harp on Couric. I'm no fan. But this is just silly.

Obviously what you say is true in the clinical sense of her job. It's not that this isn't stating the obvious reality of her job but at the same time someone that reads thew news should KEEP UP with the news. I don't care if it is understood that an anchor doesn't need to - I think it is imperative that the anchor goes in with a basic sense of the story they are going to cover live. I dare say (while throwing-up in my mouth) that Peter Jennings and Tom Brokaw and, yes, even Dan Rather would have relatively up to speed on the general story.

Also - whether you believe it or not - many people on this forum have not necessarily seen such an extensive collection of behing-the-scenes moments by a "biggie" anchor. It is illuminating on a variety of levels. So you found it boring and a waste of time - fine. Now could you prove how useless this whole excercise apparently was and ignore the thread, Sport?

37 posted on 01/15/2008 7:09:21 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: doc1019; All
Katie wasn't even competent when she was an intern on WMAL630am in good ole DC. Hey Mod-guy, your spell-check blew up!!!
38 posted on 01/15/2008 7:11:53 PM PST by junkman72 (just another day at the junkyard)
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To: torchthemummy
Now could you prove how useless this whole excercise apparently was and ignore the thread, Sport?

Ah well, listen. I saw the drudge link. I watched some of the video. I saw it posted here and commented on it. Nothing personal. Just stating my opinion. It's a slow night. Sorry.

39 posted on 01/15/2008 7:11:53 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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Talk dirty to me, Katie...yeah, baby....


40 posted on 01/15/2008 7:13:22 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: MindBender26
From 45 years of TV news experience, I can tell you that this is very normal. That is very good... and very bad.

Thanks for your insight. Your post essentially nailed what I was trying to say. I have to admit I had never seen such an extensive behind-the-scenes footage of an anchor or general newscaster. You can't do everything but surely one is going to fail at such a job if there isn't at least a reasonable amount of self-study. The up-to-the-minute data of course she needs to be fed but...well you know what I'm saying.

41 posted on 01/15/2008 7:14:53 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: MindBender26
She is a talking head ditz.

She should get a job with FOX News. Oh wait, she's not blonde. Interesting post.

42 posted on 01/15/2008 7:17:24 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: Huck
Ah well, listen. I saw the drudge link. I watched some of the video. I saw it posted here and commented on it. Nothing personal. Just stating my opinion. It's a slow night. Sorry.

It's cool. I 'll admit I need to keep things in perspective and not be quite so thin-skinned.

43 posted on 01/15/2008 7:19:32 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: torchthemummy
I can't believe this tape was released without Katie/SeeBS permission.

They need something/anything to get viewers. Any publicity is good publicity.

44 posted on 01/15/2008 7:50:42 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


45 posted on 01/15/2008 8:02:58 PM PST by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: Brad from Tennessee
And here's the rest of that story: Bloggers Run Rings Around The Partisan, Lazy Old Media

Amazing how that unfolded in real time. Anyone who has participated in a live thread knows the spontaneity of the comments and the collective acumen of FReepers. Rather didn't stand a chance with his fabrication.

46 posted on 01/15/2008 8:46:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: NonValueAdded
Thanks.

I was here then but it’s great to revisit those days. I remember seeing a post here the morning after the 60 Minutes show. I decided to try the experiment myself so I printed out one of the CBS fabrications then retyped it in Microsoft Word. I don’t have a copier so I went to the Post Office and recopied the thing about six times until it matched the CBS memo. At lunch I passed around the two “documents” at a table with about six guys I know. They were flabbergasted.

47 posted on 01/15/2008 10:27:14 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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