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General Motors CEO: oil has peaked
Energy Bulletin ^ | 14 Jan 2008 | Joshua Dowling

Posted on 01/16/2008 12:35:46 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald

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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Darn....I thought he meant the PRICE of oil has peaked.
81 posted on 01/16/2008 12:49:25 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The oil supply has “peaked” only in that we have locked up vast sources of new oil and will not permit it to be produced.
Luddites Rule!


82 posted on 01/16/2008 12:54:16 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: green iguana
Indiana almost solved that problem.

In 1897 H.B. 246 was unanimously passed by the State House of Representatives to set the value of Pi at exactly 3.2

The bill was assigned to the Senate Committee on Temperance where (thankfully) it died.

83 posted on 01/16/2008 1:22:08 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: xzins

Unfortunately in the late ‘80s when the gubment was selecting which course to take-ethanol or methanol ADM threw a ton of money at congress to steer us toward ethanol-and it worked. ADM won, and the American people lost.


84 posted on 01/16/2008 1:31:41 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: thackney; NVDave

Your corn yield is low. This past year it was 151 bushels per acre.

Your mustard yield is WAY high. This past year it was 10 bushels per acre.


Uh oh! I made a BIG mistake - I skipped the lbs/bushel conversion and used it for the bushel/acre and blew my numbers!

What an idiot am I!


85 posted on 01/16/2008 1:45:29 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

There is more oil on this planet than human beings could ever use in the next 1000 years.


86 posted on 01/16/2008 1:56:17 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
There is more oil on this planet than human beings could ever use in the next 1000 years.

At what rate? Right now production is on the order of 100 million barrels per day, and proven reserves are approx. 1 trillion barrels, giving about 30 years until exhaustion.

87 posted on 01/16/2008 2:02:33 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

How are the reserves “proven” - and what precludes more oil from existing besides that which is proven?

It’s not there because we haven’t found it?

We haven’t looked in some places because of the cost and/or regulations that prohibit looking there or developing there.


88 posted on 01/16/2008 2:05:07 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: azhenfud
No problem. I started to do the same myself. I could not find a consistent conversion of lbs to bushels. They ranged from 53~60 lbs/bushel.
89 posted on 01/16/2008 2:06:31 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: aroundabout
200 years of coal we have right here in the good old US of A

Except that Clinton tied it up as a national monument so that his campaign donors, who happen to be sitting on the only other known low sulfur deposit in the world, could have a near monopoly on coal sales.

90 posted on 01/16/2008 2:07:07 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Reserve is a dual use term. It means, commonly, how much oil might be left in the ground that is produceable, and technically how much more could be produced right now today. Arabia has oil in the ground to last 1000 years, but no reserve capacity.


91 posted on 01/16/2008 2:07:57 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
proven reserves are approx. 1 trillion barrels

Proved reserves do not include ANWR, most of NPRA, most of OCS and many, many other areas. They do not include Oil Shale and only recently included a portion of oil sands despite 4 decades of production from them.

92 posted on 01/16/2008 2:08:13 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Ethanol as a viable FUEL in quantity is an interim JOKE. Now bring me another beer!


93 posted on 01/16/2008 2:08:20 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: MrB
what precludes more oil from existing besides that which is proven?

There's always exploration going on, and who knows what will be found - but future planning has to be based on what we know for sure. I'm sure the Saudis - and we - have worst case scenerios to ponder.

94 posted on 01/16/2008 2:10:58 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: RightWhale
" Arabia has oil in the ground to last 1000 years, but no reserve capacity."

what is that in barrels?

95 posted on 01/16/2008 2:12:01 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

400 billion in the ground.


96 posted on 01/16/2008 2:15:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: thackney
"Proved reserves do not include ANWR"

the estimates i've seen for ANWR are 3-16 billion barrels

97 posted on 01/16/2008 2:15:33 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: mrmargaritaville

Methanol fuel derived from renewable sources receives the same tax treatment as ethanol fuel.


98 posted on 01/16/2008 2:28:50 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

I’ve never seen an ANWR estimate as low as 3 BBls.

USGS says 5.7 to 16.0 based upon technology of the 1990’s. Mean value of 10.4 billion barrels. NPRA ranging from 6.7 to 15.0 billion barrels, with a mean value of 10.6 billion barrels. OCS is probably at least 85.9 billion barrels.

Utah is believed to have 19.2 billion barrels in oil sands.

The Green River Formation in Utah, Colorado and Wyoming are estimated to have 1,200 to 1,800 billion barrels in oil shale. More than 2,000 billion barrels across the nation.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-0028-01/fs-0028-01.pdf

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2002/fs045-02/

http://www.mms.gov/revaldiv/PDFs/2006NationalAssessmentBrochure.pdf

http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/tarsands/index.cfm

http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/oilshale/index.cfm

http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/npr/npr_oil_shale_program.html


99 posted on 01/16/2008 2:33:39 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MrB

What was tied can be untied. All it will take is enough of an emergency.


100 posted on 01/16/2008 2:35:47 PM PST by aroundabout
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