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Romney Gets the Gold But he isn't the frontrunner. (Fred Barnes chides MSM)
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 16, 2008 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 01/16/2008 2:17:59 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008

MITT ROMNEY HAD A light home field advantage in the Michigan primary since he grew up in Detroit and his dad was a three-term governor. But that's not why he won. Romney defeated John McCain because the economy is emerging as the overriding issue in the 2008 presidential race, and Romney's message on the subject is stronger than McCain's. And Romney is far more comfortable and persuasive in talking about the economy.

So McCain needs to make an adjustment in his campaign. His strength is still national security and the idea that he could step in as "commander in chief on day one." But he can't expect to win the Republican nomination if he treats the economic issue as a marginal concern.

There's plenty he can focus on. McCain has proposed to repeal the alternative minimum tax (AMT). He wants to make it easier for individuals and families to buy health insurance and get a $5,000 (families) or $2,500 (individuals) tax credit for doing so. And he wants to cut taxes for research and development, plus make the Bush tax cuts permanent.

But McCain has two problems in discussing economic issues. One, he keeps insisting his votes in 2001 and 2003 against Bush tax cuts were not a mistake. When he says that, it drives conservatives crazy and it's their votes he needs. Two, he now says he's for a bipartisan commission to deal with Social Security solvency. Conservatives regard the commission option as a way to force Republicans to raise taxes.

The most alarming thing for McCain in Michigan is that Romney beat him handily among Republicans. (McCain won independents.) One reason is his tendency, which McCain refuses to curb, to mention Democratic-sounding positions favorably, like opposition to oil drilling in ANWR and unease over global warming.

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Mitt leads in delegates, won 2 out of 4 states, finished in top 2 in every contest, has the most popular votes, is chosen by more Republicans, and yet he is still not the front runner? Yeah, the MSM hates Mitt.
1 posted on 01/16/2008 2:18:02 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Romneyfor President2008
And what did Mitt do for the Massachusetts economy? Raised fees, forced health care, driving the residents to look at other states to move to. Mitt is a Liberal, has been and always will be.
2 posted on 01/16/2008 2:30:14 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

Fed Barnes is a watch-fobbed, top-hat and tails Republican who would be just peachy with ManiacMcCain. He’s so out of touch with the soul of his party it’s laughable.


3 posted on 01/16/2008 2:31:47 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Romneyfor President2008

Fred Barnes, one of the “Beltway Boys”, has opinions that are too close to Washington. He’s definitely a DC wonk.


4 posted on 01/16/2008 2:36:31 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: Romneyfor President2008
The race for the 2008 GOP nomination shakes up in this order for candidates so far, needed to nominate in Minnesota:

1) Romney

2) Huckabee

3) McCain

4) Thompson

5) Hunter

and

with NO DELEGATES, tied for 6th: Giuliani and Paul.

5 posted on 01/16/2008 2:37:26 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Why should RINOs ask for my vote in November when they & MSM screwed True Conservatives?)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
In case you hadn't noticed, the media loathes Romney and likes McCain. Reporters think Romney is a stiff and a phony. They give McCain credit for straight talk, though not as much credit as they gave him in 2000.
Obviously Barnes is one of those in the media who likes McCain. Much the worse for him.

And by the way, Mr. Barnes, the reason you and your fellow Troskyists like McCain is not because of his "straight talk" but because of his lousy positions on the issues. What's your personal favorite, Mr. Barnes, the bill of rights for terrorists, or the clamping down on free speech of Americans?

6 posted on 01/16/2008 3:04:33 AM PST by samtheman
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To: tiger-one
And what did Mitt do for the Massachusetts economy? Raised fees, forced health care, driving the residents to look at other states to move to. Mitt is a Liberal, has been and always will be

You make it sound like he was a dictator, not a governor. Every governor and president who has ever run a county or state where the dems control the congress or state house, has had to cave in on several bill to be able to get some of their own things passed. Overall, Massachusetts is better off because he was the governor and would be in even worse shape if someone from the democrat's side had been there during his stay.

7 posted on 01/16/2008 4:06:44 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
I see Fred Barnes is all dressed up in his little cheeleader outfit (pom pom's & all) cheering McCain! McCain! Rah Rah Rah


Not a pretty vision.

8 posted on 01/16/2008 4:07:20 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: tiger-one
As you may know from my posts, I'm a huge Fred backer. That said, if Fred isn't our nominee and I hope it's Mitt. Given the alternatives of Huckster and McShame I'll take him any day over those con artists. McShame has continously stabbed us conservatives in the back and spit in our eyes. Huckster is clearly a liberal as well as a fake and fraud representative of Christians just as Jimmy Swaggert and Jim Baker were.

GO FRED!!!

9 posted on 01/16/2008 4:08:34 AM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Overall, Massachusetts is better off because he was the governor and would be in even worse shape if someone from the democrat's side had been there during his stay.

Mitt forgot the veto, lacks leadership, and supports the liberal agenda. His replacement "Coupe Deval" is not any worse.

Living in NH, we see Mitt's continued socialistic actions in Massachusetts.

10 posted on 01/16/2008 4:15:24 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one

hat’s true, McCain is the best candidate.


11 posted on 01/16/2008 4:37:58 AM PST by a77
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To: Romneyfor President2008
Romney defeated John McCain because the economy is emerging as the overriding issue in the 2008 presidential race, and Romney's message on the subject is stronger than McCain's. And Romney is far more comfortable and persuasive in talking about the economy.

And so is Her Heinous are which is why the Clintonistas instructed their MSM minions to focus on the economy now. As more than one person in these parts has predicted, the worst economy since Herbert Hoover page of the Klintoon playbook will be read from quite soon.

12 posted on 01/16/2008 4:42:54 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: tiger-one

I’ll be voting for Republican who wins the nomination no matter who it is. If it happens to be McCain, standing in line on voting day will be one of the most depressing times of my life, but I will stick it out and vote against the Democrats.


13 posted on 01/16/2008 4:48:12 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Fred’s supporters were pulling for Romney in Michigan to open up the race and eliminate any feeling that McCain’s nomination was inevitable.

Now Romney’s supporters are hoping that Fred finishes in 4th behind Romney. If he does, then a large percentage of Fred supporters will probably begrudingly vote for Romney believing that Fred cannot possibly win the nomination.

If Fred finishes second, behind McCain, then who knows what will happen?


14 posted on 01/16/2008 4:51:48 AM PST by Rumierules
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To: Rumierules

I’m a Romney supporter, and I hope Thompson wins in South Carolina. I realize Romney won’t win there, so I want the best choice out of the rest of the field to win, and take out a couple of the poor choices.


15 posted on 01/16/2008 5:10:26 AM PST by gruna
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To: Romneyfor President2008

‘Romney defeated John McCain because the economy is emerging as the overriding issue in the 2008 presidential race, and Romney’s message on the subject is stronger than McCain’s. And Romney is far more comfortable and persuasive in talking about the economy.’

Just another example of Fred Barnes being a Beltway creature. Just as he completely misread the McCain/Kennedy AMNESTY BILL, he’s misreading the results here.

Its not so much the ‘economy’ as it is REPUBLICANS rejected McCain once again last night.

McCain can’t win a GOP primary without DEMOCRATS voting for him, folks.

Think about it. Then consider just how many pieces of legislation Conseravatives HATE that McCain has co sponsored with DEMOCRATS.


16 posted on 01/16/2008 5:20:59 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Dixie Yooper
I’ll be voting for Republican who wins the nomination no matter who it is.

Same here.

17 posted on 01/16/2008 6:20:24 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

Fred Barnes is pro-illegal immigration, and supported the McKennedy Amnesty sell-out. He is supposed to be the “conservative” half of the Beltway Boys, but his positions aren’t usually much different than Kondrake’s.


18 posted on 01/16/2008 7:11:52 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: Romneyfor President2008

The MSM prefers McLame to Mitt, the MSM prefers liberals.


19 posted on 01/16/2008 7:14:09 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Mogollon

Fred Barnes’ backing of that terrible amnesty bill was a bad, bad, midjudgement by him.


20 posted on 01/16/2008 7:14:43 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Romneyfor President2008
In case you hadn't noticed, the media loathes Romney and likes McCain. Reporters think Romney is a stiff and a phony.

Lol, If those Troskyites hate him, he's a friend of mine!

21 posted on 01/16/2008 8:00:17 AM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

He has nearly twice as many delegates as the two democrats running as republicans. He’s polling in at least second place in almost every state coming up. It’s ridiculous.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 8:21:06 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Thompson/Romney '08)
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To: johnny7

I had a coffee this morning, grabbed the paper and took a Fred Barnes.


23 posted on 01/16/2008 8:22:38 AM PST by toddlintown (Build More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: tiger-one

“lacks leadership”

Ok, you’ve lost all credibility, seriously.


24 posted on 01/16/2008 8:22:47 AM PST by enough_idiocy (Thompson/Romney '08)
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To: a77

“McCain is the best candidate” for a trip to Bellvue.


25 posted on 01/16/2008 8:24:00 AM PST by toddlintown (Build More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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To: Mogollon
He is supposed to be the “conservative” half of the Beltway Boys, but his positions aren’t usually much different than Kondrake’s.

Both of them, no doubt, consider themselves "common sense moderates".

26 posted on 01/16/2008 8:34:09 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Badeye
McCain can’t win a GOP primary without DEMOCRATS voting for him, folks.

McCain has never won a plurality of Republicans in a presidential primary. Not in 2008. Not in 2000.

And I'm guessing that record is going to go unbroken throughout the 2008 process.

John McCain will not be the GOP nominee for President in 2008. Or ever.

27 posted on 01/16/2008 8:37:57 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Exactly.


28 posted on 01/16/2008 8:41:29 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
Rush Limbaugh says Romney IS the front runner.
29 posted on 01/16/2008 12:05:06 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Abbeville Conservative; americanophile; asparagus; Austin1; bcbuster; bethtopaz; BlueAngel; ...

Mitt PING!


30 posted on 01/16/2008 12:49:44 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Unite 4 Mitt - Stop Huck, McCain & Rudy)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Not to worry, it will be a very short line.


31 posted on 01/16/2008 1:10:10 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: tiger-one
Living in NH, we see Mitt's continued socialistic actions in Massachusetts.

NH is a joke. Are you guys convinced yet that your primary matters not?

32 posted on 01/16/2008 1:14:31 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: samtheman
the bill of rights for terrorists, or the clamping down on free speech of Americans?

You've hit on one of my biggest problems with McStrain. He would project a stong military posture, but continue to tie the hands of our military and clap them in irons for doing their jobs.

33 posted on 01/16/2008 1:17:25 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

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How can they say Mitt isn't the front Runner?


Mitt leads in delegates, won 2 out of 4 states, finished in top 2 in every contest, has the most popular votes, is chosen by more Republicans, and yet he is still not the front runner? Yeah, the MSM hates Mitt

34 posted on 01/16/2008 1:22:42 PM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: All

The mathematics say Romney retains the lead up to Feb 5th PROVIDED there are no changes to the current Florida rules for delegate award that says they are NOT statewide WTA.

If they change, then the winner will jump into the lead. If they do not change, odds are extremely high that Romney will retain the lead up to Feb 5th.


35 posted on 01/16/2008 1:49:48 PM PST by Owen
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To: toddlintown

ROFLAMO!!!!!!

Thank you!


36 posted on 01/16/2008 2:01:17 PM PST by Scarchin (Romney/Thompson 2008)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

37 posted on 01/16/2008 2:34:31 PM PST by Spiff
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To: restornu

See post #37. Your numbers are somewhat dated.


38 posted on 01/16/2008 2:35:42 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Romneyfor President2008

Well I don’t hate Governor Romney but he won’t be getting my vote.

Being less ‘moderate’ than Senator McCain is like being the most virtuous whore in the room - it’s not hard to do and I wouldn’t brag about it.

Conservative don’t want government run, managed, or mandated health care.
Conservative don’t think the Boy Scouts of America should be forced to let in leaders who don’t meet their moral criteria.
Conservatives don’t sit on popular consensus as a reason to fight for the status quo on anything, especially RTL. Conservatives articulate ideas and lead!
Conservatives don’t think the AWB is a good idea.
Conservatives don’t attend Planned Parenthood fundraisers.
Conservatives stand up and fight for strong judges instead of nominating ‘moderates’ who are easier to get through the approval process.
Conservatives don’t hide tax increases as fees.


39 posted on 01/16/2008 2:42:04 PM PST by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: johnny7
Fed Barnes is a watch-fobbed, top-hat and tails Republican who would be just peachy with ManiacMcCain. He’s so out of touch with the soul of his party it’s laughable.

He hasn't said anything worthwhile for a long time. He's jumped the shark, as has the unlistenable Medved. And I suspect Bennett's still pimping for McCain.
40 posted on 01/16/2008 2:50:06 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: tiger-one
>Mitt forgot the veto...Living in NH, we see Mitt's continued socialistic actions in Massachusetts.

Mitt had over 800 vetoes in MASS. If Bush had done the same we wouldn't have lost in 06. Methinks you don't know too much about your neighbor Mitt. So is it ignorance, notwthstanding your "geographic proximity", or are you just intentionally lying?

41 posted on 01/16/2008 2:52:49 PM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Dixie Yooper
"I’ll be voting for Republican who wins the nomination no matter who it is. If it happens to be McCain, standing in line on voting day will be one of the most depressing times of my life, but I will stick it out and vote against the Democrats.

McCain might as well be a democrat. I believe you are a liberal and vote democrat anyways.

42 posted on 01/16/2008 2:58:27 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Rameumptom

After reading his article, I’ve concluded that Barnes is an idiot. My 18 year old autistic son would have formed more substantive views.


43 posted on 01/16/2008 3:01:09 PM PST by egginanest (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups)
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To: tiger-one

Have you ever met Mitt? Sat down & had a discussion w/ him? Do you really know who he is & what he stands for, or have you just read what’s been written in the MSM, & made your conclusions from that?

There have been MANY bastions of conservatism that have met w/ Mitt & then either supported or endorsed him, or openly called him a conservative. Now, who are we to believe? Those who have studied his record, met w/ him personally, & then concluded his conservative credentials, or believe some here who have never even met the man & just repeat what’s been reported in the conservative annals such as the Boston Globe?/sarc.

If you’re thinking about a retort that would include his perceived record in Ma., please also include your feelings & evidence of Reagan’s record in Ca. as Governor. Reagan raised taxes by 1 billion as Governor. Hardly conservative by most standards. Would that mean that Reagan wasn’t a conservative? NO! Reagan came from one of the most liberal states in the union & was an actor to boot! He did a lot of compromising in Cali. just as he did as POTUS. But yet, Reagan is often considered the standard bearer of conservatism, & rightly so.

Many had to meet w/ Reagan personally after his Governorship in Ca. before they were converted to his commitment to the cause. Many have had to do likewise w/ Romney, & have come away converted in like manner.

Now, I’m NOT calling Romney a Reagan. But many whom I trust to carry the conservative banner have said he is conservative. Forgive me, but I trust them more than the armchair qb’s here. They’ve actually met the man! The flips don’t ever bother me as much as flops. Many of my views have evolved over the years as my perspective has changed. Mitt has stated likewise. I admire a man more who is willing to admit mistakes & change, than a man who realizes his mistakes but won’t change due to pride or political expediency.

I hope to meet Mitt upon his next visit here. Until then I will trust those who have a better perspective of the man than I do after having met w/ him, those whom I’ve trusted over the years. Makes more sense to me than the MSM attitude that is often so pervasive here. I’m disappointed Fred isn’t doing more in this election cycle, so a lot of my eggs are in the Romney basket at this point. I hope both kick butt in SC. This nation can ill afford McCain or Huckabee.


44 posted on 01/16/2008 3:04:44 PM PST by Reno232
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To: gruna
I’m a Romney supporter, and I hope Thompson wins in South Carolina. I realize Romney won’t win there, so I want the best choice out of the rest of the field to win, and take out a couple of the poor choices.

I think Mitt is going to focus on Nevada rather than South Carolina where he can't win. In that case a strong showing from Fred would be good for both campaigns and good for the party. McCain or Huckabee are both disasters.

45 posted on 01/16/2008 3:18:14 PM PST by sandude
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To: Owen
The mathematics say Romney retains the lead up to Feb 5th PROVIDED there are no changes to the current Florida rules for delegate award that says they are NOT statewide WTA.

Apparently, the FL GOP made rule changes in August. See this article. However, I have not found an official site that quotes the rule, just several news articles referring to it. The rule change was referred to as "Article M".

46 posted on 01/16/2008 3:21:09 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: Spiff

Thank you I guess the list I looked at was not updated!


47 posted on 01/16/2008 3:21:19 PM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: Owen

Florida already says the winner takes all according to RealPolitics. 2nd place gets nothing in Florida.


48 posted on 01/16/2008 4:06:55 PM PST by jerry557
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To: jerry557

See, this kind of stuff is for unfunded candidates. A proper organization can fight in all 50 states and win delegates in all of them. Weak organizations try to grab all the delegates in a few states and become President of Florida instead of the US.

We’ll see. Wikipedia makes changes like that quickly. They still show it as non statewide WTA so . . . there were stories of Michigan and SC being WTA too, but the wiki said no and was right.


49 posted on 01/16/2008 5:07:31 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

Okay I have just checked the articles referenced above.

They say the all or nothing scenario COULD unfold. They do not say it has already been decided.


50 posted on 01/16/2008 5:13:08 PM PST by Owen
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