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ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private
Yahoo News ^ | 1/16/2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/16/2008 5:05:44 AM PST by IronKros

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Journalist Moving from Paper to ACLU: A 'Continuation of Her Work'
41 posted on 01/16/2008 7:28:41 AM PST by CedarDave (The only access <s>Hillary</s>Richardson-care will bring is access to a waiting list.)
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To: ml/nj
How 'bout the folks who want to use this public facility for its intended purpose? What sort of reasonable expectations do they have?

Maybe they should pass an law that colons are "Exit Only" devices in all public restrooms.

42 posted on 01/16/2008 7:41:29 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper
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To: IronKros

Remember when degenerates were simply called degenerates?


43 posted on 01/16/2008 7:42:21 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: IronKros

Here is the crux of the ACLU’s argument:
“..sexual intimacy [that] would not have called attention to itself in a closed stall in the public restroom.”

And it’s just plain wrong. If you were in the next stall doing what the public toilet was designed for, you couldn’t help but know what was going on. Not to mention waiting for an open stall and wondering what was taking so long.


44 posted on 01/16/2008 7:49:02 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: IronKros; steve-b

No doubt, our big-government liberaltarian friends will be along any minute to tell us why the ACLU is right here.


45 posted on 01/16/2008 7:51:19 AM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: IronKros

You won’t find it in either a public restroom or an ACLU meeting.


46 posted on 01/16/2008 8:00:57 AM PST by .cnI redruM (New Republic? Same old Left.)
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To: IronKros

“Expectation of privacy” for perversion, in a public place!!!???

What they SHOULD worry about is the expectation of grievous bodily harm.

Make a pass at me or worse yet, one of my grandsons, PRIVACY will be the LAST thing on their perverted minds.


47 posted on 01/16/2008 8:35:46 AM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Hunter, Romney.)
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To: WL-law

I guess I should have said there was no evidence that he was planning on having sex in the stalls. I certainly have no idea if he really was signalling for sex, or that if he was where he thought that would occur.


48 posted on 01/16/2008 8:45:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Unam Sanctam
People should have no expectation of privacy when engaging in sexual activity in public bathrooms, parks, etc. Get a room if you have to!

In my 39 years on this planet I have never, and I repeat NEVER, walked into a public restroom found to be occupied by men having sex.

Is it conceivable that gay men go into stalls, tap their feet and then exchange contact information with the purpose of meeting later at a more private location?

49 posted on 01/16/2008 8:53:47 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Wil H
How 'bout the folks who want to use this public facility for its intended purpose? What sort of reasonable expectations do they have?

This is the key issue. We're not talking about peeking through the cracks nor cameras in the stalls nor any of that big brother stuff.

We're talking about common decency to allow public facilities to be used for the purpose which they are designed.

Some homeless wino is not allowed to set up housekeeping in a public restroom. Nor can I pitch a tent and overnight in a highway rest area. Why should the perverts have the right to change an intended purpose of the public facility?

50 posted on 01/16/2008 9:03:32 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Drew68

you’ve never been to the University of Minnesota...


51 posted on 01/16/2008 9:18:12 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (I think I'll buy everyone a carbon credit for Christmas.)
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To: IronKros
The folks who told us sex was a private matter are attempting to make it a public matter.

This is no surprise. They choose one side to win an argument one moment and, after that, choose the other side to win an argument.

52 posted on 01/16/2008 9:23:55 AM PST by syriacus (HUCKIAVELLIAN : (adj.) hypocritical; slick; glib; charming and, yet, sneakily nasty.)
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To: IronKros

how about a reasonable expectation of an ass kicking?
where does that come in?
can I initiate an ass kicking after being forced to see these pervs or would that then be a hate crime?


53 posted on 01/16/2008 9:28:09 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (I think I'll buy everyone a carbon credit for Christmas.)
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To: day10

A judge in MA (where else) ruled that sex, out in the open mind you, at Rest Stops along MA highways was part of Gay Culture and ordered the State Police to stop harassing them.


54 posted on 01/16/2008 9:37:35 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: IronKros

So we own public toilet stalls while we’re in them?

Do we own ACLU offices if we eneter those?


55 posted on 01/16/2008 9:39:16 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: IronKros

This is because so many of their membership engage in it!

ACLU = Aberrational Coital Lavatory Usage


56 posted on 01/16/2008 9:40:01 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: samtheman

The ACLU also gets the added bonus of running a republican through the mud... This story is all but dead so now the ACLU will try to breath new life into it..


57 posted on 01/16/2008 10:17:48 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Vigilanteman
How 'bout the folks who want to use this public facility for its intended purpose? What sort of reasonable expectations do they have?

You are absolutely correct, no argument there. If someone is disturbing the general population by what they are doing in a stall then they should be held accountable.

BUT, There is surely a basic expectation of privacy when you enter a stall. 99% of the nation don't want to poop in public and expect to not be disturbed, spied on, or photographed while doing what they have to do. Ergo - "an expectation of privacy".

That expectation evaporates when they start doing something that attracts other's attention, such as two people in a stall, or making some kind of commotion, etc.

In Craig's case he was reaching under the partition into the next stall - ZAP! There goes his "expectation of privacy" and he is violating that of his neighbor

58 posted on 01/16/2008 10:21:55 AM PST by Wil H
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To: agrace
I remember when my boys were younger, my husband told me that no decent man in the men's restroom would bat an eye at a mom (me) opening the door and going in to look for her son. I never, ever had a problem with it, either.

FWIW, I'm glad that all my boys are bigger then me now; I don't worry nearly as much.
59 posted on 01/16/2008 10:24:30 AM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (((( Bleu)))) Gone to where all good dogs go.)
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To: IronKros

ACLU has taken a wide stance on this.


60 posted on 01/16/2008 10:28:49 AM PST by AU72
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