Yeah, and it's so great you lose in the first round of the playoffs despite having the highest payroll in professional baseball.
Posted on 01/16/2008 10:05:04 AM PST by Lovebloggers
When you looked out at the football field in the indoor bubble at Boston College's Alumni Stadium yesterday, you saw the reason why many Red Sox fans don't want to make the Johan Santana trade.
related content gallery Photos from Tuesday's workout Sox prospects learn to deal with trade rumors more stories like thisYou saw a confident, personable, Derek Lowe-like Justin Masterson and shortstop-of-the-future Jed Lowrie, both of whom have been mentioned in a possible trade for Santana. You saw a bulked-up, maturing Clay Buchholz, who may be the Red Sox' lone untouchable, though he may not even break camp with them, given the depth of their rotation.
The talent on the field - invited guests to the Red Sox' annual rookie development program - was a testament to how far the system has come. Baseball America, the bible of minor league baseball, ranks the Red Sox farm system second overall (Tampa Bay is first). But farm director Mike Hazen isn't getting carried away.
"We don't put too much stock in those things," Hazen said. "We know our job is to continue to push forward and help each guy maximize his potential."
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You are ranting. Stealing the catchers signals from second base is part of the game. Installing a TV set in your own bull pen is not.
And you are delirious if you believe attacking the Yankees record will fly except with the brainless SAWX fans. The NYY have won 27, that’s TWENTY SEVEN WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHOPS. How many have the SAWX won? LOL, they’ve won twice in 3 years, fine but the Yankees have won as many as FIVE IN A ROW and 3 in a row twice. The SAWX have about a hundred years of success to go before they can even carry a Yankee jock strap.
BC is renting the football field out to the Sox and they’re jacking up the parking for football games plus the extrotion for the Flynn Fund?
Yeah, and it's so great you lose in the first round of the playoffs despite having the highest payroll in professional baseball.
Funny how $200 million can't buy what it used to back in the old days. But then, money has never been an adequate substitute for talent evaluation, as the two dim-witted Sons of Steinbrenner can't quite seem to grasp. The Sox have a farm system stocked with talent that the Yankees would kill for. Last century was last century: it's gone, old and faded as the pennants waving over the soon-to-be-demolished Bronx monument to excess (soon to be replaced by an even bigger model, paid for in true New York style, largely at taxpayer expense).
The Red Sox are loaded to the gills with talent (not steroids) and will compete effectively for years to come. After years of poor management, they've got a team of executives who actually care about winning - and who have now done so repeatedly. Even during the "bad old days", we had Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Pesky, Bobby Doerr - not to mention the single greatest hitter who ever lived - Ted Williams.
Misspells the chucklehead from Joisie.
The State is a moral swamp. Have You ever been to Provincetown in the summer?
FUHGEDDEDABOUDIT!!!!
You are not a New Yorker, for sure, but you sound exactly like a New england sports fanatic.
Typical blow hard sox fan. You’ll be eating your words soon enough. here’s a fact. Manny Ramirez goes and your team finishes no higher then 4th. Without the production of both of them the sox are mediocre at best. And if either one goes the other is pitched around and you guys are done.
When you guys can compile a won lost record and the number of Championships even CLOSE to the Yankess then come back and maybe you’ll get some respect. Until then it wasn’t me that invented the term MASSHOLE but it’s telling that no matter where you go they know exactly what it means.
Finally it WAS a big deal when the SAWX put a a TV in their own BP because it WAS ILLEGAL. Had the DAWX offered to do the same for the visitor it would have been fine, but they didn’t. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know why they didn’t.
I do agree the Yankees suck, but GO PHILLIES.
I know how many years it’s been, yah yah yah I can take the heat. Damnit to hell, you can have one dynasty team, now it looks like you may have 3. Who’s gonna stock up the Bruins? (GO FLYERS!!!!!)
Still, gay marriage makes (M)assachusetts the laughing stock.
Mr. Tim Wakefield.
who at best is erratic but has the benefit of being able to pitch almost everyday due to the almost total lack of wear and tear on his arm from throwing the floater.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Wakefield was down for more than a few weeks last year due to shoulder and back problems.
After that it gets a bit dicey for the sox as far as starters.
I guess you've never heard of John Lester or Clay Buccholtz . . . or Johan Santana, when we get him.
In the bull pen they have Papelbon, who was supposed to be a starter but developed arm trouble and was made a closer and a sparsely used one at that due to concerns about how he will hold up under extreme use say like NYY closer Mariano Riviera has.
Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Papelbon started his major league career with the Red Sox in the pen, came in as a closer when Foulke couldn't get the job done, and did so well he took the job from Foulke for the rest of the year. He was shut down late in the season when he developed arm problems due to over-use; at the beginning of this season, he projected as a starter in order to put less stress on his arm, but his arm became a non-issue, and he returned to his role as a lights-out closer.
The word is he is a pitch away from mediocrity.
Your most fervent wish.
Here's the problem. It's no secret Manny wants out of Boston
This hasn't been an issue for nearly two years now. Try and keep up.
1. Manny isn't going anywhere.
2. Even if he does, the Sox would replace him with someone who puts up Manny-like numbers. Duquette isn't in charge anymore, you know.
Hey, the Phils aren’t that far off. Not a bad team to root for in the NL East.
nope......The Diamond Backs do followed by the Dodgers...................it is written
And all the broken records are as a result of cheating - - I’d like to share some of what you’re doin - - LOL!
LOL, Manny is on the record as talking to NYY players about his desire to play with the Yankees. He’s from the Bronx and wants to return. Personally I wouldn’t take him anyway. The Yankees have the best offense in baseball as it is.
Wakefield, aside from last year hasn’t had an injury ‘problem’ at all and that’s what I was referring to. And wasn’t he out in 2006 not 07. I recall a back and rib cage thing that year.
Bucholtz has a total of 21 innings in the bigs and is already an injury problem as of Sept last year. It is far to early to call him a sure thing’
Lester is the kid who came back from cancer. God bless him for that. He has parts of 2 seasons with the sox and has an era in the mid to high 4’s, not overly impressive and he is erratic at times and according to the book on him he can be surprisingly easy for left handers to hit. Not a good thing if you are a left handed pitcher yourself. With this young man the future is unknown due to his illness.
Papelbon is a strange case. He was recently resigned in, I think, March of 07 to a 1 year contract at about $450,000. This “phenom” is just 27 years old and they offer him a ONE YEAR contract at a lousy $450,000? Geez, there are guys who make that in a week. Mariano Rivera is 38 years old and the NYY resigned him for 3 years. Somethings going on here and it doesn’t bode well for the SAWX. If Papelbon was ok as you seem to think they would have locked him up for at least 7 years. The fact they did not indicates they believe he has a limited future.
Ramirez’s HR and RBI production is in steady decline since 2005 with each of the past three seasons showing him being less productive in all areas.
For what you will have to give up to get him, I hope the SAWX are dumb enough to do the deal. Frankly though I think he will go to either the Mets or if they really want him the Yankees will get him. But with their current staff of young firebrands waiting to step up, they don’t need him.
Which records are you talking about?
LOL, just replace him? No problem, right? Geez, what are YOU smokin’
This thread has been quite enjoyable. Your something in the water voodoo conspiracy theories are testament that NY has gone over the edge (which just makes it all the more enjoyable of course).
A-fraud Sucks in the playoffs. New England danced in the streets when Mr. April received his ridiculous over-the-top Yankee contract (y’all should have placed his incentives on playoff performance, not attention whoring regular season stats — MORONS).
The rest of your line up really didn’t do so much for you last year did they? Red Sox own your 3 year contract closer, his number was punched years ago.
Schilling is with the Sox to groom the youngsters, which he was stellar in doing with Beckett, and is further bringing Dice-K along nicely.
We are all set here in the sports capital of the word thanks.
We will check for your pulse when we sign Santana — and will giggle our asses off if the Yankees do, as that farm system that has your chest all puffed out over? Hank the flip flipper will have sold that “farm” to get him.
HA. HA. HA. HA. HA.
Patriots. Celtics. Red Sox......... mommy make the monsters go away!
Oh and on Papelbon’s contract?
CONTRACT INFO: 2008: Near Minimum, 2009-11: Arb. Eligible, 2012: Free Agent
You do know what this means right?
Of course I know what it means. It means the sox are willing to basically keep him on the cheap as long as they can rather then lock him up NOW because they haven’t a clue what he will have left in a couple of years. You make it sound like every team lets the clock run out before signing prospects, good ones, to big money contracts. This is not so because when a player is strong and putting up BIG numbers the team must pay top dollar. In Papalbons case his numbers are ok but he has only had 1 outstanding year and I think they could get him cheaper now then they will, in 2 years if he has outstanding years. They are NOT doing this because they know his future is in question.
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