Posted on 01/16/2008 11:10:02 AM PST by TitansAFC
Hey, Mike Huckabee wasn't the only one speaking in church Sunday. Barack Obama was in Vegas speaking at a church there, and Rudy Giuliani spoke at a huge mega-church in Florida. Read below from The Associated Press:
With his plan for winning the GOP presidential nomination riding largely on a Florida victory at the end of the month, Rudy Giuliani asked an evangelical congregation for prayers instead of votes Sunday and quoted scripture to evoke a message of hope and perseverance.
"I'm not coming here to ask for your vote," he said. "That's up to you and it's not the right place. But I am coming here to ask you for something very special and more important: I'm asking for your prayers."
While other Republican candidates are focused on Tuesday's Michigan primary, Giuliani is following a strategy of pushing for a January 29 victory in Florida he hopes will propel him toward a dominant showing on February 5, when more than 20 states hold primaries and caucuses, and then on to the nomination.
Once a strong front-runner in national polls, the former New York City mayor has fallen well behind the three candidates jockeying for a victory in Michigan, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.
"I've faced odds that were at times seemingly impossible, situations where people had given up hope, but we didn't listen to the doubters, we didn't listen to the naysayers," Giuliani told several thousand worshippers at El Rey Jesus Church in Miami.
"Fear not, be strong, and of good courage," he added, quoting the Bible. The church, which has a congregation of 10,000 people, was his first stop on a three-day bus tour through Florida.
OK. I know all you Giuliani bashers see Giuliani speaking at a church and have all these unkind thoughts. Repent!
Seriously though…whatever you think of Giuliani and some of his personal issues, when he says he needs people's prayers, I'm sure he's being very genuine. When it comes to winning in Florida, he could sure use some answered prayer.
Giuliani's biggest threat could be a steamrolling John McCain. Think about it. Giuliani has based his campaign on fighting terrorism and electability. John McCain can match him on both of those items. But if McCain wins in Michigan and South Carolina, it may be so much momentum that Giuliani all of a sudden gets into a world of trouble with McCain in Florida and Feb. 5.
Thanks for that link - Looks like Rooty has some 'splaining to do :-)
BUT there's more there on the 1st page, links to Rooty's other 'Illegal Issues'.
(gotta run, will be off line till tomorrow)
If Rudy the RINO is the model Catholic then that church really does have more problems then just buggering.
What is wrong with the Catholic church in that they allow abortion supporters to continue with the Catholic Sacraments?
Are they afraid of losing their tax exempt status?
I think Jimmy Carter was less hostile to religious people than Giuliani and overall more sincere in his faith. Bottom line: it doesn’t mean much when choosing a President. His beliefs on issues, however, mean a lot. (He fails on most counts)
Ahhh... another one, huh?
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0752,barrett,78709,2.html
Likes Rudy, Likes Booty
(snip)
And then there’s the saga of Ed Norris, who rose to deputy commissioner for operations at the NYPD in his mid-30s under Giuliani and became Baltimore’s police commissioner in 2000.
Norris, who was still at NYPD headquarters when the Judi Nathan adventure began in 1999, pled guilty to federal charges in 2004 that he had used a supplemental police fund in Baltimore as if it were his own ATM, “financing romantic encounters with several different women.” The original indictment referred to eight women entertained by the police chief . . .
(snip)
Norris was an NYPD deputy commissioner for nearly five years under Giuliani, in charge of developing and implementing anti-crime strategies. “I met with Rudy every Thursday,” briefing him on the week’s crime data, Norris said in a Voice interview. As recently as late 2006, Norris saw Giuliani at a political fundraiser for Ehrlich, who is the mid-Atlantic chair for Giuliani’s presidential campaign. “I was emceeing the event,” says Norris. “Rudy gave me a big hug. He was very happy for me.” Fresh from prison at the time, Norris was still on parole . . .
I agree that it is the issues that matter. To me, hostility towards religion in general, evangelicals in particular, is an issue that would cause me to never vote for the candidate.
Giuliani isn't swaying them in Florida LA Times | 01/15/08 | Louise Roug
FR Posted 01/15/2008 by advance_copy
EXCERPT For an hour Monday, Rudolph W. Giuliani passionately made his case to voters seated in the Shell Point retirement community chapel. He talked of tax cuts and terrorist attacks, of building up the military and cracking down on illegal immigration. But in the end, he didn't seem to close the deal.
Dozens of the more than 1,000 who attended the town hall event took off before Giuliani finished his speech, leaving rows of seats empty. "I didn't hear anything I hadn't heard before," said Barbara Vitello, 71. "It's the first time ever I'm going into the [presidential] election not knowing who I'll vote for," she said. Her 79-year-old husband, Joe, agreed. Read more at latimes.com ...
>>I disagree with you about Carter being all that sincere...
I used it in a relative sense. Relative to Giuliani, that is.
>>Now I would say he is hostile to religious conservatives.
As is Giuliani.
Married Carter lusted in his heart.
Married Rudy lusted and porked his mistress on the taxpayers' dime then hid the theft of public services in obscure city agencies. Tax-paid NYPD drivers and cops stood around and watched while Rooty got sexually blitzed by his mistress.
Keep in mind---Rooty's campaign strategy from the getgo was to kick social conservatives and believers to the curb. He and his power-mad liberal handlers wanted complete control of the Repub party.
Rooty's stupid plan was based on the ignorant assumption that conservatives were gonna roll over and play dead.
That ain't happening.
Rooty worships at “The Church of Whatever Works For Me.”
Schwarzenegger did the same thing. His strategy was that he didn't need the folks on the right as he would capture the great middle.
I kept asking the ArnoldBots what the political platform of the great middle was (a little bit of socialism? an average amount of property rights? etc). I never got an answer. Go figure! ;-)
I guess Guiliani (like Arnie being forced to cut Cali services) is learning the hard way----too bad (/sarc).
He won't end up cutting much of anything. What you are seeing now in the headlines is just all the whining and victimhood that will support the argument for raising taxes. When push comes to shove, I think Arnie will be raising (more) "fees" and selling/leasing off assets and revenue generating operations in the form of Public Private Partnerships (toll roads, etc.) in exchange for boatloads of cash from private interests.
You may be right about Guiliani but I haven’t seen evidence of it myself. I have to see it to react. The deal is, I am not voting for Guiliani based on his political positions so the hostility issue has no deal to break.
Positively Hillaryesque. What an unspeakable scumbag.
What’s he got to lose? He’s going to burn in hell anyway.
Hope Auhnold likes his new nickname------"Fifi."
If your house was built in the last 10 years, I think chances are pretty good an illegal worked on it.
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