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Constitution Party Courts Ron Paul as Candidate
Old Glory Radio ^ | 01/16/08 | Old Glory Media

Posted on 01/16/2008 1:15:09 PM PST by locke22

EUREKA Ca: 01/167/08 Old Glory Media - Mary Starrett, Communications Director of the Constitution Party, announced today, in conjunction with her radio interview with Old Glory Radio 16 Jan 08, that the Constitution Party has drafted a resolution encouraging current Republican Presidential Candidate Ron Paul to run as the Constitution Party candidate for President in the 2008 Election.

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Starret stated in a follow up interview “his positions are 100% in line with the Constitution Party platform” The formal CP convention is being held April 23-26 in Kansas City.
1 posted on 01/16/2008 1:15:10 PM PST by locke22
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To: locke22
Translation: "If Ron Paul wants to donate a million or so of those Neo-Nazi, Code Pink, 9/11 Truther dollars he's raised over the past few months, we will sell him the Constitution Party nomination."
2 posted on 01/16/2008 1:17:47 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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3 posted on 01/16/2008 1:18:45 PM PST by Constitution Day (Get over yourselves!)
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To: locke22

He wont get any votes from liberals because they don’t respect the constitution. His votes could only come from conservatives who don’t like the GOP nominee. Smells like Perot from ‘92.


4 posted on 01/16/2008 1:18:51 PM PST by kdot
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To: Constitution Day

lolz


5 posted on 01/16/2008 1:19:44 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: locke22

Awww man, and I was considering them as a fallback position should the GOP nominate someone completely unacceptable. There goes that.


6 posted on 01/16/2008 1:19:49 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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To: locke22

If Paul and say Bloomie run ya gotta think they take away from the nut job dems much more then the Pubbies.
Run Ron Paul as an constitution candidate ya nutjob.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 1:20:02 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: locke22

If Hillary is the Dem candidate, ElRon as a third party candidate would pull more votes from the left than from the right.

All the “disaffected yoots” who are basically socialists but distrust Hillary, like, for sure would vote for ElRon.

So, in that case, GO FOR IT, ELRON!

(Against Obama, I’m not so sure.)


8 posted on 01/16/2008 1:20:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: kdot
I completely disagree. I think he gets a lot of his support from anti-war lefties who don't see the Democrats as willing to surrender fast enough. I see him as much Nader as Perot.
9 posted on 01/16/2008 1:22:58 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Jokelahoma

Excellent point!


10 posted on 01/16/2008 1:25:08 PM PST by kdot
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To: locke22

Well, Well... Let me say it again, “ROn Paul will run on a third party ticket”. I’ve said it over and over, and people keep telling me “He isn’t going to, he said so”.

Ever heard a politician, especially one that has already LIED a dozen or more times publicly whose lips were moving that WASN’T lying???????


11 posted on 01/16/2008 1:25:20 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: wideawake; mnehrling

An excellent fit for Paul which I’ve suggested several times in the past. They’re virulently antiwar, and they’ll be willing to embrace the less savory elements amongst his supporters. Nothing to prevent him from running on the Libertarian slate as well. Between the two, you could be looking at upwards of a half percent.


12 posted on 01/16/2008 1:26:12 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: locke22

The Constitution Party just nail their own coffin shut.


13 posted on 01/16/2008 1:26:28 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: kdot; All; tiggs

The folks I personally know who are supporting him (disclosure: 3 of them) are folks I formerly would have considered to be pseudo-reliable Republicans, in the Pat Buchanan isolationist mold. Not entirely sure who they might end up supporting in ‘08 in a 3rd party Paul candidacy, but I know it won’t be any of the current crop of Democrats. So of course I am somewhat interested.


14 posted on 01/16/2008 1:28:18 PM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: SJackson
The CP is actually doing a good job of positioning themselves toward the left.

They've already expelled the hard pro-life wing from the party by banishing former nominee Michael Peroutka and they are really pushing the anti-war, anti-PATRIOT Act, pro-Palestinian stuff lately.

Meanwhile they maintain their links to the racist fringe via their alliance with The League Of The South.

So Ron Paul, with his Truther-Nazi-Code Pink coalition should fit nicely.

15 posted on 01/16/2008 1:32:02 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: locke22

He’s perfect for that position. Do it Ron!


16 posted on 01/16/2008 1:40:47 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Fred Thompson's Federalism is right on.)
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To: wideawake
Wasn't aware they were dropping the pro-life line. That should help with the anti-war left.

Couple of old threads, on the war and immigration, which is their selling point.

The Constitution Party on the War on Terror

Constitution Party on Immigration

And of course an interview with Peroutka, by Mark Danoff (he's a fit, wonder if he wrote any newsletters), and to my knowledge published no where by al Jazeera. Sounds a lot like Paul.

U.S Constitution Party An Interview With the Presidential Candidate Michael Peroutka

17 posted on 01/16/2008 1:43:39 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: wideawake
hey've already expelled the hard pro-life wing from the party by banishing former nominee Michael Peroutka,

That's interesting. I actually know one of the CP bigwigs ... a founding member, in fact. Her excuse for the whole thing is based on the Republicans being insufficiently pro-life.

18 posted on 01/16/2008 1:45:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: locke22
Well in SC, Paul’s Republican credentials were challenged. He is not wanted in today’s GOP.
19 posted on 01/16/2008 1:46:15 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: SJackson
Wasn't aware they were dropping the pro-life line.

The Nevada party ran a pro-abort locally and Peroutka demanded that the national party disaffiliate the soft-on-abortion NV party.

Peroutka was overruled and his MD party wound up breaking off from the national CP while the NV party stayed with the CP.

Technically, the antional party claims to be pro-life, but the NV situation shows how flexible they are in practice.

Like most third parties and fringe groups, the CP are more about separating suckers from their disposable income than internal discipline.

20 posted on 01/16/2008 1:47:32 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: ArrogantBustard
See post 20.

The CP believes in having their cake and eating it too.

21 posted on 01/16/2008 1:48:24 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: locke22

The Constitution Party received about 5% of the vote in the 2006 Oregon Governors race(Mary Starrett was the candidate). After the election, she became the darling of the antiIraqwar chowderheads and her 3 lectures in Portland drew 50-100 each of the more feverent BDS practioners. Interestingly, her entire campaign was directed at economic policies/governmental interference...not once did she mention Iraq or isolationism.
Not Ross Perot numbers, but,combined with the other 3rd parties, could siphon off enough votes to give some western states to Queen Hillary.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 1:50:48 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: wideawake
Interesting ... I'll have to bring that up in conversation, some time.

That should be amusing.

23 posted on 01/16/2008 1:51:40 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: wideawake; SJackson
>Meanwhile they maintain their links to the racist fringe via their alliance with The League Of The South.

Umm. No. - from your link:

Q: What is the LS position regarding blacks in the South?

A: The LS disavows a spirit of malice and extends an offer of good will and cooperation to Southern blacks in areas where we can work together as Christians to make life better for all people in the South.

We affirm that, while historically the interests of Southern blacks and whites have been in part antagonistic, true Constitutional government would provide protection to all law-abiding citizens — not just to government-sponsored victim groups.

24 posted on 01/16/2008 1:57:04 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: locke22

Cool - is this a trade?
Do we get a conservative to be named later?
A fifth round draft pick?


25 posted on 01/16/2008 1:58:05 PM PST by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: locke22

Well, so much for any interest I had in the Constitution Party.


26 posted on 01/16/2008 1:58:08 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: bill1952
The modern, Duke-era Klan makes similar claims about its purpose and expresses support for black nationalist groups.

That doesn't change their membership or their donors.

27 posted on 01/16/2008 1:59:07 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: kdot
"Smells like Perot from ‘92."

BINGO !

Soros money and moonbats rallying to prop him up in the phoney on-line polls just so he could suck fool votes from "Libertarian"-leaning Republicans.

What a plan (surprising how many even on FR buy into this fringe crap).

28 posted on 01/16/2008 2:02:01 PM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: locke22
Well, well, well isn’t that special.
The (alleged) constitution party is courting RP.
But I thought RP said he would never run as a third party candidate. So what is there to court?
29 posted on 01/16/2008 2:02:13 PM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: locke22

If nothing else it’ll be interesting to see what happens when the folks who define libertarianism according the platform of the Libertarian Party try shoe-horning this into their political word processor.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 2:02:54 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: locke22
The Constitution Party will have some unexpected political allies if it accepts Ron Paul as its candidate. MUSLIMS ENDORSE RON PAUL
31 posted on 01/16/2008 2:04:10 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: bill1952
I didn't bring up the League of the South, but their objective is an independent Southern nation, secession. That qualifies as fringe.

They run candidates like Mark Dankoff, certainly fringe, but right back to the Willis Carto/Ron Paul connection. Dankoff contributes to the American Free Press, and is on Republicradio.

To what extent they're serious versus peddling code I don't know, but the Constitution isn't based on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the CP is mistaken. We are not governed by biblical law, they're wrong on that too. And we haven't in the past and present offered asylum to non-Christians. We actually let non-Christians be American citizens, have since our founding. They should at least include the future.

Paul will be a fit, and the CP will have no problem at all with his nutball supporters.

32 posted on 01/16/2008 2:04:17 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson
racist fringe

Sorry, but I’m not disputing “Fringe” - That may not even be an insult after looking carefully at the modern political parties. 8^)

I am disputing the pejorative term “racist.”

33 posted on 01/16/2008 2:07:32 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: bill1952

I don’t think I brought them up, I’m not that familiar with their position on blacks, certainly racists associate with them, but I don’t know if their proposals for a new Southern nation are racially exclusive. My impression is that they are religiously exclusive. I’m comfortable describing them as fringe, and that the CP won’t have any particular concerns with Paul’s racist support.


34 posted on 01/16/2008 2:15:20 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

You didn’t bring them up.
It was bought up to you in a reply by another poster and so I added your name to the poster’s.

I actually never heard of them before today, and I live in Florida.

Associating with RP will bring no group anything that they want as far as I can see.


35 posted on 01/16/2008 2:19:31 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Joe Boucher
If Paul and say Bloomie run ya gotta think they take away from the nut job dems much more then the Pubbies. Run Ron Paul as an constitution candidate ya nutjob.

Couldn't agree more.

Ron Paul's motto: "Sometimes you feel like a nut and I am one!" Paul is a nutjob extraordinaire!

36 posted on 01/16/2008 2:30:14 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: Jokelahoma
I think he gets a lot of his support from anti-war lefties who don't see the Democrats as willing to surrender fast enough.

Then why aren't they voting for him in the primaries? I keep hearing the "he's a Democrat plant" conspiracy theory being whined, but no one's ever been able to produce anything to back it up. Where are the hordes of liberal cross-overs the anti-Paul nuts keep hallucinating about?

37 posted on 01/16/2008 2:32:33 PM PST by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Mike Huckabee's speech was better in the original Russian.)
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To: locke22

There goes my respect for the Constitution Party.


38 posted on 01/16/2008 2:33:17 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: locke22

If Paul’s positions are 100% in line with the CP, then I’ve misread the CP platform. Now I’m really depressed.


39 posted on 01/16/2008 2:39:02 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: wideawake

“They’ve already expelled the hard pro-life wing from the party by banishing former nominee Michael Peroutka and they are really pushing the anti-war, anti-PATRIOT Act, pro-Palestinian stuff lately.”


Anti-war in the context of modern reasoning for war is not leftist. Anti-United Nations-mandated wars is not leftist. Anti-”wars-to-end-all-wars” is not leftist. Anti-”nation-building” wars is not leftist. Anti-”perpetual-war-for-perpetual-peace” wars. Anti-wars where the press gets planning briefings is not leftist.

Not all people who express concerns about personal liberties (re: Patriot Act) are leftist on that account.


40 posted on 01/16/2008 2:40:30 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: savedbygrace

It very well may be time for a new party. A truly conservative party that is motivated by restoring the foundation of American liberty.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 2:45:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Cut the heart out of the GOP platform, and the party will be nothing but "a Weekend at Bernie's...)
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To: wideawake
Peroutka was overruled and his MD party wound up breaking off from the national CP while the NV party stayed with the CP.

I believe that Peroutka (and his running mate in 2004 Chuck Baldwin) endorsed Ron Paul

42 posted on 01/16/2008 3:19:45 PM PST by estimator (Defeat the illegal aliens' 3 Amigos--i.e. McCain, Huckleberry & Frooty)
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To: bill1952
Associating with RP will bring no group anything that they want as far as I can see.

He brings two things. A name, fringe parties usually don't have a shot at a Congressman, much less one with a high profile, and as I noted the negative aspects of that profile won't be a put off for the CP. Equally important, he has a lot of $$$$. Whether he'll spend it, that will be an interesting future topic, is another issue.

43 posted on 01/16/2008 3:24:20 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson
He does bring those things, and if that recognition is not off putting, then good luck to them.
44 posted on 01/16/2008 3:27:51 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: SJackson

So when the GOP loses the general election, there won’t be any of this “thanks to all of you cut-and-run conservatives” and “stupid Losertarians” rants on this Forum, right?


45 posted on 01/16/2008 3:36:35 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Man50D
MUSLIMS ENDORSE RON PAUL

Does Dr. Paul endorse them though. That's the $64,000 question.

46 posted on 01/16/2008 3:38:52 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So when the GOP loses the general election, there won’t be any of this “thanks to all of you cut-and-run conservatives” and “stupid Losertarians” rants on this Forum, right?

You comment makes no sense.

I don't share your contempt for the GOP, nor do I expect them to lose.

I certainly wouldn't blame cut-and-run conservatives and stupid Losertarians, presuming you're referring to Paul supporters. They're far outside the platform of the Republican Party, classic RINOs. If you're not supportive of the Republican platform in the first place, you really can't desert.

Besides, they'll have their own fringe party to support.

47 posted on 01/16/2008 3:44:12 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: kdot
Smells like Perot from ‘92.

From the 'nut-job' aspect yes. From a vote stealing aspect, not a chance in hell!

48 posted on 01/16/2008 3:47:37 PM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
MUSLIMS ENDORSE RON PAUL...Does Dr. Paul endorse them though. That's the $64,000 question.

He's been clear that there's no ideological component to terrorism, and that the 9/11 terrorists were actually thugs. I'm sure he's sympathetic with the mischaracterization of Islam.

He spoke at the Arab American Institute in Dearborn on the heels of what I presume were unauthorized anti-Israel ads paid for by supporters which he forgot to correct, so why wouldn't Dr. Paul be comfortable with an endorsement from a Muslim paper?

49 posted on 01/16/2008 3:50:10 PM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: locke22

Why are both the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party so “open borders” when it comes to the illegal immigration issue? This is only one of the many issues that truly prevents a majority of conservatives from ever joining, supporting, and/or voting for either the Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party at any political level.


50 posted on 01/16/2008 3:53:43 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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