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Audio of an Honor Killing, Sarah Said slowly dying
http://www.courier-gazette.com/articles/2008/01/16/breaking_news/61.tnv ^

Posted on 01/16/2008 2:46:15 PM PST by CaliFReeper1

An update in regards to the recent honor killings in Texas of Sarah Said, 17, and Aminah Said 18.

This makes you sick, the audio shows that Sarah just sat there suffering until she slowly died, with her sister most likely already dead in the cab with her. This is the result of Islam, this is what an honor killing sounds like:
http://www.courier-gazette.com/articles/2008/01/16/breaking_news/61.tnv



Sarah & Aminah Said RIP, may we make sure others don't suffer the same fate

The story:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323265,00.html


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: diversity; honorkilling; islam; muslimwomen; rop; ropma; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 01/16/2008 2:46:16 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: CaliFReeper1

Thanks for posting but I don’t think I have it in me to listen.
I thought the thread worth clicking though as this murderous cultural clash is something that must be dealt with in a swift and serious manner.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 2:51:26 PM PST by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: CaliFReeper1
Wow, they were hot!

I hope I don't come off as callous noticing that.

Oh, and yes, islam is the enemy of freedom and goodness wherever it rears it's head.

I will even term it a "gutter religion", a term that got me banned from FR around 2002.

3 posted on 01/16/2008 2:52:11 PM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: CaliFReeper1
There is a very primitive part of my brain that would go to extreme measures to save children.

This incident (and a few other things) makes that part of me want to take all children away from Muslims the minute they are born.
4 posted on 01/16/2008 2:53:10 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: CaliFReeper1

“this is the result of Islam”

That phrase is heavy with meaning and truth.

The murderous nature of this `religion’ is summed up in only six words.


5 posted on 01/16/2008 2:53:18 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: JerseyDvl

This just makes me so sick, I hate the jihadists so much, we have to fight them, we have to beat them and we have to win


6 posted on 01/16/2008 2:53:29 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: JerseyDvl

Mark Twain said that every man is ignorant about something. Could anyone enlighten me about what an “honor killing” is?


7 posted on 01/16/2008 2:53:40 PM PST by gbscott1954 (Go Fred Go!)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Wow. This and the tOM cRUSE video prove that the devil is attacking us from all angles.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 2:55:53 PM PST by Edgar3 (Steve Spurrier for President!)
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To: gbscott1954

In Islam, if a woman does something to bring ‘shame’ to the family, the father or her brothers will kill the daughter. This is meant to restore the family ‘honor’. Sometimes, an honor killing is done for such transgressions as being raped, refusing to wear the hijab, living as a westerner, or refusing an arranged marriage.


10 posted on 01/16/2008 2:56:39 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
Wow, they were hot!

I can't believe you said that out loud. Now their male relatives will be coming after you.

11 posted on 01/16/2008 2:58:41 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Hey McCain! How about a game of solitaire? Betcha can't find the Queen of Diamonds.)
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To: gbscott1954

from Wikipedia...

“An honor killing is the murder due to perceived loss, of wider family status owing to the actions or status of the victim. In West, honour killing is almost exclusively associated with killing of female by close family members with the aim of undoing the loss for actions seen to be offense to their culture particularly in term of sexually immodesty ranging from adultery , refusing to accept forced/arranged marriage, being victim of rape to merely refusing to adhere to hijab dress code. If victims are male, then the perpetrator is likely to be the family of woman whom the victim are accused having (adulterous) relationship.”

I’ve never seen a news report of an honor killing of a male, always a female. So these 2 girls ‘dishonored’ their family in some way that ‘justified’ their deaths.

Honor killings are very common in Europe now. I thought it would take longer for them to spread to the US. :-(


12 posted on 01/16/2008 3:00:00 PM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: gbscott1954

The gist of it: An honor killing is an Islamic practice done by a family member to someone in the family that they deem has insulted Islam


13 posted on 01/16/2008 3:01:01 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: CaliFReeper1

I’m not going to listen to this, either. But people should know about it.


14 posted on 01/16/2008 3:02:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Such pretty girls. The monster needs to be shot and left for dead but unfortunately, a “civilized” society won’t do that.

Has CAIR issued a declaration of support for the mudering father, calling for Americans to respect diversity?


15 posted on 01/16/2008 3:03:11 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Lawyer Jay Grodner stands accused of keying a Marine's car because he hates the military.)
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To: gbscott1954

In this case the “honor killing” was because they were associating with non-Muslim boys, this cult is so sick it has to be stopped at all costs


16 posted on 01/16/2008 3:03:25 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: CaliFReeper1

Keyword acronym added.


17 posted on 01/16/2008 3:04:02 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Heard about this on Glenn Beck. Tese barbarians are not the least bit civilized. The father and the brother should both be charged in these murders. What is sad is that some bone head lawyer may try to defend this scum....


18 posted on 01/16/2008 3:04:30 PM PST by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: CaliFReeper1

The “father” - monster.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321806,00.html


20 posted on 01/16/2008 3:05:25 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: CaliFReeper1
What a couple of beautiful girls.



May their so-called 'Father' burn in hell for all eternity.
21 posted on 01/16/2008 3:13:27 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Weird psychological with Muslim men regarding women. A lot of Muslim boys are abused by Muslim men. Got to wonder if there is some deep self-loathing that causes them to hate women.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 3:25:53 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: txflake

I expect he’s back in Turdistan by now being treated with other by his moron co-religionists.


23 posted on 01/16/2008 3:29:18 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: txflake

I expect he’s back in Turdistan by now being treated with honor by his moron co-religionists. Sorry.


24 posted on 01/16/2008 3:30:25 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: CatQuilt
I’ve never seen a news report of an honor killing of a male, always a female.

Females get pregnant, males do not.

25 posted on 01/16/2008 3:31:21 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: CaliFReeper1

Hmmm. He’s 50, the mother is 36 and the eldest daughter 18. The math tells me he married this woman in his early thirties while she was probably 16-17 at best. Where were the parents? Were they both from Egypt or was she an American Muslim?

Do women think these bastards will change?

“Women marry men hoping they’ll change. Men marry women hoping they’ll never change. They both end up frustrated and disappointed.”


26 posted on 01/16/2008 3:31:47 PM PST by Bob J
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To: CaliFReeper1

I live in the area. It’s not really clear if this was Islam-related or not. The girls had two funeral services, Christian and Muslim. It appears that the family was not particularly religious.

From what I’ve read, it may just be a case of a very, very evil man, perhaps wanting to keep the girls for himself.


27 posted on 01/16/2008 3:36:15 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: reagan_fanatic

They dont look like sisters to me..... The features are different,,, what do I know..


28 posted on 01/16/2008 3:36:43 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: All

It would be my “honor” to pull the switch on that murderous bastard...


29 posted on 01/16/2008 3:37:57 PM PST by CitadelArmyJag ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions" G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JerseyDvl

I am sitting here asking myself what kind of no good sorry SOB could kill his own children let alone tape it too? I hope Texas fries his ass, no needles for this ca$tard.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 3:47:36 PM PST by Americanexpat
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To: CaliFReeper1
We should stop all legal immigration of Muslims in this country. What’s bad is we are allowing Muslim Iraqis to immigrate here and I think that’s a bad idea. There’s no doubt there will be some bad people in that bunch.

We should have learned something after the Vietnam war. Look at the problems we have with Vietnamese gangs in certain areas.

http://www.fred08.com/index.aspx

31 posted on 01/16/2008 3:52:22 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Fred Thompson 2008 - www.fred08.com)
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To: Americanexpat

He didn’t tape it... one of the girls called 911 screaming that her dad just shot her and “i’m dying”... then it seems she dropped the phone and stopped responding to the 911 operator. very hard to listen to.


32 posted on 01/16/2008 3:52:28 PM PST by California74
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To: reagan_fanatic

Not only were they beautiful in their appearance, they look like two fun-loving sisters that enyoyed each others company. May they spend it in joy together in eternity.


33 posted on 01/16/2008 3:53:38 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory. ------ www.gohunter08.com ------)
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To: CaliFReeper1
A CAPITAL murder warrant has been issued for Said.

GOD BLESS TEXAS.

34 posted on 01/16/2008 3:58:30 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
NO doubt about it: no more Muslims allowed here!

Just as we would not knowingly let communists into the US during the heyday of International Communism/Cols war—we should not be letting these enemies in.

35 posted on 01/16/2008 4:01:45 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: California74

“very hard to listen to.”

When I was on a Grand Jury I had to listen to someone die on a store surveillance tape. I think I’ll pass on this one.


36 posted on 01/16/2008 4:05:16 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Islam is utterly, transparently incompatible with our culture. Any western country that permits Islamic immigration, after all we have learned about this miserable cult, has a death wish.


37 posted on 01/16/2008 4:05:33 PM PST by joe.fralick
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To: stinkerpot65
Weird psychological with Muslim men regarding women. A lot of Muslim boys are abused by Muslim men. Got to wonder if there is some deep self-loathing that causes them to hate women.

Actually, I read an interesting article in one of those Psychology magazines... The article tried to explain why so many young muslim men are willing to blow themselves up.

You see, in the Muslim society powerful and rich men marry more than one woman. Therefore, most of the poor men have no hope of getting married and having kids. So they are enticed by the act of dying for Islam and getting their rewards of 72 virgins...

38 posted on 01/16/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: ALPAPilot

Amen! God Bless Texas!

Dead Sandie walkin’.

Wise up folks. When someone says they want you dead... best you believe it. When someone kill their own children and says it... go figure.

You thought werewolves were bad... ain’t seen nothin yet.


39 posted on 01/16/2008 4:09:43 PM PST by Bubba (IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER... IT'S WHAT YOU SPREAD.)
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To: CaliFReeper1
This is the result of Islam,...

As opposed to what? The thousands of kids killed or injured each year by their parents for wetting the bed, breaking curfew, or just in the way?

40 posted on 01/16/2008 4:20:04 PM PST by AmusedBystander (American by birth, Republican by choice.)
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To: CaliFReeper1

Fox news’ Shepherd Smith aired the story a few minutes ago. No mention of an Islamic connection whatsoever.


41 posted on 01/16/2008 4:35:26 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: JerseyDvl

One of the things you hear is a 911 Operator not getting an address right away.

In Texas we have the death penalty. The Murderer may be facing it fairly soon.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 4:41:37 PM PST by e_castillo
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Sarah called 911 from a cell phone, making the location much more difficult to determine than had she called from a landline. Sadly, by the time emergency crews found the girls, they were dead.


43 posted on 01/16/2008 4:44:54 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: vetvetdoug

This guy had a record of multiple run-ins with police, most of them regarding domestic violence. He was/is a creep, through and through. His religion, in this case, may or may not have been a contributing factor, but it certainly wasn’t the whole story.


44 posted on 01/16/2008 4:47:38 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Jedidah wrote: “I live in the area. It’s not really clear if this was Islam-related or not. The girls had two funeral services, Christian and Muslim. It appears that the family was not particularly religious.

From what I’ve read, it may just be a case of a very, very evil man, perhaps wanting to keep the girls for himself.

What is wrong with you Jedidah??? The sister’s aunt said “This was an honor killing.” and you are lying about the two funerals, they had an Islamic funeral where they were buried facing Mecca and then the school had a memorial service. Freaking Muslims like you will lie over anything, sick, purely sick.


45 posted on 01/16/2008 4:52:26 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: Americanexpat

Americanexpat: He shot them and then left them to bleed to death, one of them was alive long enough to call 911 which is the tape that you hear, you can hear her life slowly fade away. This is so sick, Islam is so evil


46 posted on 01/16/2008 4:54:30 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: Jedidah

“Sarah called 911 from a cell phone”

I made that assumption thats why I mentioned that the Operator should have obtained a location first. He should have seen there was a problem with his system.

Maybe it would have helped who knows now...


47 posted on 01/16/2008 4:54:37 PM PST by e_castillo
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To: Jedidah

Jedidah wote:
“This guy had a record of multiple run-ins with police, most of them regarding domestic violence. He was/is a creep, through and through. His religion, in this case, may or may not have been a contributing factor, but it certainly wasn’t the whole story.”

Jedidah just shut up you apologist, SHUT...UP. You are no better than the girls father. You are actually worse because you cover up for the jihadists. The girls aunt said hersef QUOTE “This was an honor killing.”, the family (other than the girls Jihadist brother) all says the dispute was over the girls associating with non-Muslims and their refusal to wear a hijab. Why don’t you get out of America if you are going to side with our enemies the way you do


48 posted on 01/16/2008 5:01:25 PM PST by CaliFReeper1
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To: JerseyDvl

The Taliban is in our midst, and we can thank the liberals for it. Those poor girls never had a chance.


49 posted on 01/16/2008 5:06:41 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: CatQuilt; gbscott1954
I’ve never seen a news report of an honor killing of a male, always a female. So these 2 girls ‘dishonored’ their family in some way that ‘justified’ their deaths.

After a lot of study on the subject, the explanation I come up with is this:

In Islamic culture, women are the property of some man -- father, husband, brother. When your property disrespects you by defying you, that lowers your status in the eyes of your peers. The only way you can recover your status is by demonstrating that you will react violently, lethally, to any source of "disrespect"

Such violent behavior is necessary in uncivilized, predatory cultures because if you appear weak, then you are prey. Survival depends on not appearing weak

Noticing the similarities between Islamic culture and our domestic "inner city" culture, it's not surprising that both cultures deem it necessary to respond with extreme violence to being "disrespected".When you examine Arab culture, it is even more dysfunctional than our inner cities, in that the men ARE weak. They kill their women rather than risk fighting another male who makes a disparaging remark

Doctor Sanity's blog has a nice article on the subject as well SHAME, THE ARAB PSYCHE, AND ISLAM

50 posted on 01/16/2008 5:25:37 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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