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Hillary's Spiritual Formation (book excerpt)
Christianity (Astray) Today ^ | 12/11/07 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 01/16/2008 4:11:49 PM PST by Terriergal

For much of Hillary's youth, [her father] Hugh was the only male influence on her life that had any real bearing. Her views, her political ideas, her religion—all this was filtered through Hugh, as he helped shape her sense of the world and her sense of self. But all that changed dramatically when she was thirteen, and the Reverend Don Jones, a Methodist minister, entered her life.

She began dropping by Jones's office after school or during summer afternoons, eager to talk about ideas or insights she culled from the youth minister and his sermons. According to Roger Morris, biographer of the Clintons, Jones had her read Tillich, Niebuhr, Soren Kierkegaard, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and they had lengthy, increasingly serious discussions. "She was curious," says Jones. "She was just insatiable."

Jones took from Hillary's study of his good works, adding this important insight: "She is very much the sort of Christian who understands that the use of power to achieve social good is legitimate."

(Excerpt) Read more at christianitytoday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alinsky; dncfalseprophets; election; evil; hillary; hillaryandgod; newage; religiousleft; spiritualformation; umc
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Jones took from Hillary's study of his good works, adding this important insight: "She is very much the sort of Christian who understands that the use of power to achieve social good is legitimate."

That's scary. So is Christianity Astray trying to help Hillary out now?

they had lengthy, increasingly serious discussions. "She was curious," says Jones. "She was just insatiable."

I dunno... insatiable teenage girl frequently visiting youth pastor's office?

1 posted on 01/16/2008 4:11:50 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!! Christ taught us all that we should give willingly. Give to the state what is the states, but give willingly. A forced or coerced giving is not giving at all.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 4:15:38 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: vpintheak

At 13, she was reading Philosphy books??...Me thinks not..


3 posted on 01/16/2008 4:27:52 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Terriergal
...her quest to express her faith through social action.

And damn anyone who got in her way.

4 posted on 01/16/2008 4:27:53 PM PST by stayathomemom
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To: vpintheak

Yup!

You will notice that much of Christendom is starting to buy this lie though!


5 posted on 01/16/2008 4:30:08 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Sacajaweau
At 13, she was reading Philosphy books??...Me thinks not..

She's the smartest woman in the world isn't she??? /sarc

6 posted on 01/16/2008 4:30:37 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: stayathomemom

Hey that’s the standard M.O. for lots of Christian leaders these days, so apparently she figures she’s in good company. I wouldn’t doubt if Rick Warren personally helped her be more ‘purpose driven’ while she was out at Saddleback for that AIDS conference.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 4:31:28 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
"She is very much the sort of Christian who understands that the use of power to achieve social good is legitimate."

How is this, in practice, any different to Islam and it's political/religious intertwining?

8 posted on 01/16/2008 4:34:44 PM PST by stayathomemom
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To: Terriergal

He “embraced her?” Hm, and what did she do to him?

I wouldn’t put anything past Hillary.

Surprised that she wasn’t a follower of Marxist Jim Jones of Jonestown massacre fame. One of her Communist Party lawyer friends was, Charles R. Gary, along with another attorney and CPUSA supporter, if not member, Mark Lane.

Yes, Hillary really knows how to pick her mentors. Alinsky (I’ve met him); Gary (I met his buddy Kunstler); Soros (may he drop dead yesterday); Morton Halperin (not on our side); Johnetta Cole (a Castro propagandist and possible DGI operative); Rev. Benjamin Chavis (once a UCC Christian; then a Black Moslem under Calypso Louie) and a VP of a major CPUSA front, the National Alliance Against Racist & Political Repression). And the list goes on!!


9 posted on 01/16/2008 4:39:02 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: Sacajaweau

At 13, she was reading Philosphy books??...Me thinks not..

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, it is not impossible, I am personally acquainted with one thirteen year old MAN who looks at first glance to be at least eighteen and acts more mature than most 30 year olds I know.


10 posted on 01/16/2008 5:10:48 PM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Terriergal

Hmmmm. Robert Johnson’s Spiritual Formation. Dorian Gray’s Spiritual Formation. HRC’s Spiritual Formation.


11 posted on 01/16/2008 5:10:49 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Terriergal

I suspect she was just fishing for buzz-words, ways to phrase things etc that would appeal to Christians. Plus, she got a fawning article.


12 posted on 01/16/2008 5:19:26 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: RipSawyer
Hillary is not a particularly religious person which is what gives me grave doubts. And discussing it with the pastor....in private...gives me greater doubt.

I think I'd be pretty upset if my 13 year old said she was going to the pastor's house to talk about philosophy....In fact, it wouldn't happen.

13 posted on 01/16/2008 5:21:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Terriergal

“Christianity Astray”! Ha - I love it! That’s about the funniest thing I’ve read in a week. It’s the magazine for those who think “The Message” is Scripture. Good grief.


14 posted on 01/16/2008 5:29:55 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Terriergal

Social good is like pudding; you have to be outside the bowl to see it.


15 posted on 01/16/2008 5:35:55 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Terriergal; Liberty Valance

“Jones took from Hillary’s study of his good works, adding this important insight: ‘She is very much the sort of Christian who understands that the use of power to achieve social good is legitimate.’”

May the real God protect us from bastards like Hillary and Jones.


16 posted on 01/16/2008 5:40:14 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Terriergal

Interesting article.
The Reverend Don Jones really invested a lot in philosophical exploration with the young Hillary.

Funny, he never mentioned Jesus once in the article. Not once.

That’s the man who said, “No man comes to The Father but by men.”


17 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:26 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Terriergal
"She was bi-curious," says Jones. "She was just insatiable."
18 posted on 01/16/2008 6:54:49 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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For a couple of years starting when Clinton was 13, Jones tutored her and about 60 other teenagers every Sunday and Thursday night on e.e. cummings and T.S. Eliot, Dostoyevsky and Bob Dylan. He called his lessons "the University of Life."

The Boston Globe

19 posted on 01/16/2008 7:24:09 PM PST by pjsbro
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"I thought of all the youth, she was probably the most open-minded," recalled the minister, Don Jones, now 76.

Uhuh... which, translated, means "she was the least interested in what the Bible ACTUALLY says."

Seems to me I recall a good pastor around here having gone through a real disillusionment at that time because his methodist pastor was telling him the Bible was just fairytales. I wonder if that happened to Swillary's bunch?

20 posted on 01/16/2008 7:31:29 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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