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Warming up to the idea of corn stoves?
Maryland Community Newspapers ^ | Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2008 | Mike Meno

Posted on 01/16/2008 4:33:19 PM PST by spanalot

For the past five years, a group of area residents have heated their homes with stoves that burn corn, an energy source they say is cheaper and more environmentally friendly than gas, oil or electricity, and one they hope others also will use.

Almost 70 families in the Takoma Park Silver Spring Cornburners Cooperative use corn-burning stoves that produce a clean-burning fuel to heat their homes.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.net ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: corn; energy; environment; heat; oil
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Don't get mad - get even.

F the Mussies and Russians and spend your fuel dollars in the US

1 posted on 01/16/2008 4:33:21 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot

We should import corn to Alaska so we can run corn stoves. Right.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 4:35:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: spanalot

Corn? When did I heat my home with corn?


3 posted on 01/16/2008 4:36:09 PM PST by skipper18 (Fred or Bust)
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To: spanalot

I hope they mean corn “cobs”.


4 posted on 01/16/2008 4:37:46 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: spanalot
more environmentally friendly

I question that. It may be cleaner to burn but not cleaner overall when you take into account land being used, clear cut, run off, pesticides used etc...how much land would have to be used to sustain this for everyone? would we have room to grow other foods?

Too many (liberals especially) are ideologues who have no clue of unintended consequences.
5 posted on 01/16/2008 4:38:52 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: spanalot

Wood pellets are much cheaper. I looked at these stoves at Tractor Supply—interesting!


6 posted on 01/16/2008 4:38:57 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: All

... erm, and, then, we can all eat coal, as it becomes 10 times cheaper than food.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 4:39:34 PM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: spanalot
Stoves can be heated with electricity from coal, nuclear, or renewables.

Biofuels should be reserved for the trickier cases such as for transportation.

8 posted on 01/16/2008 4:40:23 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: spanalot
[They] "use corn-burning stoves that produce a clean-burning fuel to heat their homes."

Is this like a breeder reactor?

9 posted on 01/16/2008 4:42:19 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Road Trip!)
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To: spanalot
"Wolf said he spends between $125 to $150 a month on enough corn to heat his house — compared to the $600 a month he said he paid before getting the corn stove.

I dont know wether to laff er cry......and then the global warmin comment....

10 posted on 01/16/2008 4:42:40 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: southernerwithanattitude
You know, out here in cotton country, couldn’t they compress the gin trash to make pellets? I guess you may have to take pesticide residue into consideration, but it sounds like a good idea.
11 posted on 01/16/2008 4:45:23 PM PST by Stegall Tx (Road Trip!)
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To: Stegall Tx

If you live in Alaska and eat enough corn on the cob to feed the corn stove as your sole source of heat, you will weigh about a ton within a year.


12 posted on 01/16/2008 4:45:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: spanalot

When bourbon goes to the roof in price, people will know who threw the corn in their stoves for heat.


13 posted on 01/16/2008 4:46:14 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: southernerwithanattitude

with the auto feeders they are cool.....cheaper to throw another log on the fire yerself though,the remote burners several of my friends use are awesome.With those you dont have the insurance hassle of wood burners in the house...but you have to put on yer slippers and walk ootside in yer t-shirt and undies when it’s -20 though ;-)


14 posted on 01/16/2008 4:46:59 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: mamelukesabre
I hope they mean corn “cobs”.

Nope, they are saving the cobs for the outhouses.

15 posted on 01/16/2008 4:48:08 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: RightWhale

you could burn your septic tank contents? ;-)


16 posted on 01/16/2008 4:48:23 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: RightWhale

you want wood pellets in alaska - almost as cheap.

http://energy.cas.psu.edu/energyselector/cornpellet.html


17 posted on 01/16/2008 4:50:09 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: Minnesoootan

A friend of mine has one of those. It heats water and pumps it through a coil over fan set up. Its computer controlled and he loves it! I just don’t like the going outside to feed it thing.


18 posted on 01/16/2008 4:51:19 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: mamelukesabre

no cobs - its #2 feed corn kernels

http://burncorn.cas.psu.edu/quality.html


19 posted on 01/16/2008 4:53:05 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: All

This is only tangentially related- but it seemed like it might be a good place to ask:

I am looking at a house this weekend. It seems from the listing to be a bit deficient in the heating appliance department, although I don’t know for sure yet.

I would love to get a large, glass-front woodburning stove (yes, wood-burning in particular) as a means of adding to the household heating arrangements. A friend had one that I fell in love with. It was his sole means of heating, and it was hugely effective. It’d heat you out of the house on a cold night in under an hour.

Anybody know roughly what it costs to buy one and especially to have it put in? Just a ballpark-y figure?


20 posted on 01/16/2008 4:53:15 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: spanalot

I find chunks of tree about 3 inches diameter and 15 inches in length fit my wood stove just right. Large pellets. There are a lot of trees that diameter in my yard. About 50 years ago a forest fire burned all that, and it will probably happen again, but in the meantime they are growing faster than I need them for the stove.


21 posted on 01/16/2008 4:53:43 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Stegall Tx

I wonder about kudzu. If you grew that stuff in a field and bailed it just imagine how much you could harvest in one summer.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 4:54:02 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: mamelukesabre
I hope they mean corn “cobs”.

No, actually, they mean corn kernals that have been removed from the cob by the combine. It does have to be extra clean of debris though. The stove we are putting in our new house burns corn. Since we grow corn, it is going to be huge savings for us. Very efficient as well ... the corn leaves very little ash residue, and the ash makes a good soil amendment in the garden.

23 posted on 01/16/2008 4:54:33 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: socialismisinsidious

...how much land would have to be used to sustain this for everyone?

About 2 acres per household.

I voted for Reagan in 1972 and I heat my house with 7000 lbs a year. My money goes down the road to a local farmer and not to some offshore terrorist.

I AM LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK, TOO.


24 posted on 01/16/2008 4:55:41 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: Riley

You have to do some work to the building such as fireproofing the wall and other structure near the fireplace. It will cost some thousands to have it done.


25 posted on 01/16/2008 4:55:50 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: spanalot

If we’re gonna be doing all this new crap with corn we better figure out something else to feed cows.


26 posted on 01/16/2008 4:56:45 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: southernerwithanattitude

“Wood pellets are much cheaper.”

Not for me - I buy from the farm direct at the mercantile wholesale price = it was $3.90/ bushel in Oct when I filled up my silo.


27 posted on 01/16/2008 4:58:08 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: farlander

“we can all eat coal,”

coals is too dusty and too much ash.


28 posted on 01/16/2008 4:58:47 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: spanalot

Deer corn is $14.00 per 100lbs around here right now. How much ash is left over? Do you have to clean it out every day?


29 posted on 01/16/2008 4:59:54 PM PST by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: spanalot
Actually these are very efficient units.

They burn dry, whole corn kernals which are feed-lot grade - not corncobs. One of the side benefits is that the corn provides a perfect amount of moisture as it combusts, relieving the problem of dry forced air.

I have also seen the same technology used as the heating element of a barbeque grill - absolutely the best grill I have ever cooked on.

30 posted on 01/16/2008 4:59:57 PM PST by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

“Biofuels should be reserved for the trickier cases such as for transportation.”

why wait - I have saved $12,000 in last 4 years.


31 posted on 01/16/2008 5:00:14 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

That’s what kids are for! ;-)


32 posted on 01/16/2008 5:01:13 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: Minnesoootan

“I dont know wether to laff er cry”

get a stove and laff all the way to the bank.


33 posted on 01/16/2008 5:01:40 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: Riley

Talk to your insurance prospect first....


34 posted on 01/16/2008 5:03:13 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: Stegall Tx

“Is this like a breeder reactor?”

actually its more like a catalytic heater where the gasses are drawn through the hot embers and burns with little flame.

thats why it is so effiecient and clean - no smoke, no odor, no vapor.


35 posted on 01/16/2008 5:03:39 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: Stegall Tx

“couldn’t they compress the gin trash to make pellets? “

sounds feasible - these stove also burn cherry pits, soybean, pistacchio shells, etc.


36 posted on 01/16/2008 5:04:48 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Very black oily soot from corn. Your field corn moisture percentage will be too high unless you run it thru a grain dryer at considerable expense. A good compromise is to mix 1/2 corn with 1/2 pellets. I've switched to cordwood since I cut about 10 cords every year just clearing limbs that extend out into my fields. Still run the pellet/corn mix in the pellet stove just for charm.

One woodstove in the garage/workshop. One in the living room. One in the upstairs hall. I've got a patch of eight acres of old mixed hardwoods which I have not even touched. Just clearing the fallen/dead stuff could heat my house for a decade.

37 posted on 01/16/2008 5:04:50 PM PST by blackdog
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To: spanalot

Referring to if this person would just insulate it’s drafty hooose....


38 posted on 01/16/2008 5:05:12 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: socialismisinsidious

Corn cobs. Otherwise wasted.


39 posted on 01/16/2008 5:05:55 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

I have a central vacuum dedicated to drawing the corn from the silo and it brings it right to the stove where I fill up buckets - 5 gallon twice a day.


40 posted on 01/16/2008 5:06:11 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: spanalot

So do the math...how many households times 2 acres..so we will need what? 200+ million acres for corn? Just to burn; not to eat...is that even possible?


41 posted on 01/16/2008 5:07:07 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Riley

$4-5000 but chopping wood is a full time job - corn is so easy and so cheap - 2 buckets a day and one chunk of clinker cleaned out every 3 or 4 days.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 5:07:56 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

sure - kudzo is gudzo and I know this is being done in NC


43 posted on 01/16/2008 5:09:12 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: blackdog
Just clearing the fallen/dead stuff could heat my house for a decade.

I do the same when hunting,pickup load of good deadfall now and then and my garage is toasty all winter

44 posted on 01/16/2008 5:09:49 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Tractor Supply is an awesome store. I went with a regular wood stove though. the fuel is cheap. I got it in my back yard, tons of it.


45 posted on 01/16/2008 5:09:56 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: RightWhale

I was expecting something in that range. That’s good to know. I grew up with a big stone fireplace in the house as a source of heat; I really, really miss having a fire going in the evening. It’d be worth it to me.

Woodstoves are great- especially in the rural setting where the house is. There are all kinds of sources of free wood, and wood at the cost of a little sweat. “That old tree came down in the wind last night? Don’t know how to get it out of the way? I’ll be over with a truck and a chainsaw tomorrow after work to make it go away, neighbor.”


46 posted on 01/16/2008 5:10:32 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: RightWhale
Ahh, a wood burner.

Vermont Castings, Vigilant.

I averaged 5 cord a season. I loaded it up and the catalytic do the work. Hardly any smoke and it would burn for 10 hours on a load.

I was a lot thinner too then cuttin’ and splittin’ with a chain saw and maul.

47 posted on 01/16/2008 5:11:09 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Beef.)
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To: spanalot
$4-5000 but chopping wood is a full time job

Done it before, I can do it again. Looking forward to it. :-)

48 posted on 01/16/2008 5:12:20 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: RightWhale

“You have to do some work to the building such as fireproofing the wall and other structure near the fireplace”

No - the stove is so efficient it is only warm to touch - it needs a few inches of clearance to get in the side panels for annual cleaning - also 9 sq ft of granite or whatnot from home depot for $35. - you do need a special stainless vent - about $200.


49 posted on 01/16/2008 5:12:27 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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To: spanalot

Where is this corn burning stove..?,,,We grow 5-10 acres a year to eat and feed the deer..


50 posted on 01/16/2008 5:13:29 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,,and I Vote...)
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