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A “study” claims guns being stored unsafely: what would Mark Twain say?
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/2008/01/16/a-study-claims-guns-being-stored-unsafely-what-would-mark-twain-say/ ^ | WM Briggs

Posted on 01/17/2008 3:27:11 AM PST by mattstat

Another one of those “studies” showing that guns might be unsafe (who knew?) has come out. Here’s a quote: “Over 70 percent of families surveyed reported not storing their firearms safely in their residence,” said Robert DuRant of the Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center. “This concerns us a great deal because having guns in the home increases the likelihood that they will be used in a suicide or unintentional injury.”

The good doctor would have also wanted to point out, I am sure, that, if a family didn’t have a gun in the house, then of course that missing gun would not be very dangerous. Indeed, one of the “study’s” most prescient conclusions was that the “safest practice would be to remove guns from the house.”

These guys, these “researchers”, never seem to remember that Mark Twain was ahead of all of them, warning people way back in 1882 about the inherent dangerousness of guns in the house:

Don’t meddle with old unloaded firearms. They are the most deadly and unerring things that have ever been created by man...

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KEYWORDS: banglist; gunsafety; marktwain
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To: mattstat
My kids can access their firearms if they wish.

Mine are mostly in a different gun safe.

Some are sitting around here and there.

I’m sure my house would be considered “unsafe” to some but having a rifle on a rack over the door is normal to my kids. They don’t “Oooooo, aaahhhhh” when they see one.

My kids parents see the weapons as they step in the front door. None have grabbed their kids hands, turned around and walked out.

21 posted on 01/17/2008 4:38:25 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: mattstat
Who in their right mind would even tell a stranger, on the phone, you have a gun in your home in the first damn place?

Hello! AQ calling!

22 posted on 01/17/2008 4:40:17 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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To: mattstat

Please define “unsafe storage” thanks.


23 posted on 01/17/2008 4:49:37 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: mattstat

I had a nightmare just last night that a burglar broke in, but even though I got to my gun, every time I pulled the trigger it just clicked, because I had forgotten to load it. This is NOT a problem I have in real life.


24 posted on 01/17/2008 5:21:37 AM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: mattstat

“Safely” means stored so that the owner can’t possibly get his gun unstored, loaded, and in use before the home invaders have raped and strangled his wife and daughter, stolen the silver and the 60 inch TV and bludgeoned the owner. A homeowner successfully driving off or killing a home-invader with a gun is proof that the gun was not stored safely. It is, of course, the felon’s safety that is the cause of so much concern.


25 posted on 01/17/2008 5:22:34 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

““Science” is discrediting itself on a daily basis with these “studies”.”

Many of these number crunching studies in Medicine are...”choose your own word.” The problem is that the data is frequently forced to fit a preconceived notion.


26 posted on 01/17/2008 5:41:00 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: ksen

For most of these dolts, I would guess having any type firearm in a person’s residence constitutes unsafe storage. To them firearms are a total mystery, and as such can only be handled by certain specific individuals serving in specific official capacities. They’ve most likely lived their entire lives in suburban settings and everything they know about guns they’ve learned from the MSM. They’re only exposure to guns in the real world is seeing one strapped on a policeman’s side.

Their fear is very real but it’s based on a virtual reality created by the media. In their world guns are very dangerous and unpredictable therefore ordinary citizens should be denied ownership. The medical establishment bought into this lie some time ago along with the teacher’s unions, politically motivated leo groups and countless other professional organizations.


27 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:23 AM PST by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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To: bereanway

I agree with what you wrote.

In my mind a gun is being unsafely stored if it is stored in such a way that it becomes useless if you need to get to it in an emergency.


28 posted on 01/17/2008 5:59:45 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: joe fonebone

safe storage: stored in a clean, dry, climate controlled area where they are safe from moisture, rust, dust and extreme changes in temperature?


29 posted on 01/17/2008 6:16:21 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: ksen

Proper storage means:

A: if unloaded and/or not under my personal control (in my hand or attached to my person), then in my gun safe.

B: Loaded, holstered and on my person.

A firearm, under any other circumstances, loaded or not,is not a wise thing. The “nightstand” gun is the vehicle by which most thugs arm themselves.

The only responsible method of storing a loaded gun is always to insure it under your personal control. Yes, I carry virtually from the moment I arise to the moment I lay down. I’d guess the only time I violate my rule is when I am in the shower and the holstered, loaded firearm is on the commode seat...

When I lay down for the night, that same loaded firearm goes into the pistol locker secured to my bed frame-three pushes of the LED buttons and it springs open.

It is the “bearing” of Arms that has virtue, “keeping” is collecting.

As always, God Bless!


30 posted on 01/17/2008 7:04:43 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US Army, Retired)
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To: bill1952
What is meant by “stored?”

To the Left? Unloaded, trigger-locked, inside a locked steel gun-safe...
in other words, utterly useless in an emergency situation, which is 95% of the usefulness of the firearm.

31 posted on 01/17/2008 7:10:09 AM PST by Teacher317 (Eta kuram na smekh)
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To: samtheman; mattstat
"Do you believe that, on the grounds of unsafe storage, you should be forced to give up your gun?"

Well, that and they probably didn't ask "Do you store your guns safely?", they asked specific questions like "Is the ammo in a separate room, also under lock and key?", so an honest title would be "70% of guns not stored safely as defined by gun-hating. rights-hating, pantywaist Brady liberals.", which would sound much different.

They think they get to define what's safe.

32 posted on 01/17/2008 7:26:26 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking
All my firearms are locked, as in “lock & Load” and ready to fire for effect.
barbra ann
33 posted on 01/17/2008 8:45:42 AM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: PeteB570

Your kids friend’s parents?


34 posted on 01/17/2008 9:44:40 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: bereanway

Well said, to most of the MSM having a gun in the home ranks right up there with having a pet tiger.


35 posted on 01/17/2008 12:03:17 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: wastedyears

Yeah, I was typing fast.

Some of the kid’s parents are lib leaning but none have run away.

The first one they see is a .58 muzzle loader and then the gun rack at the back of the foyer.

Teacher asks “OK children, what did we do this past weekend?” My kids answer “Went out to the rifle range and blew off a couple hundred AK rounds.”


36 posted on 01/17/2008 3:43:03 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: mattstat

“not storing their firearms safely in their residence”

I had no idea there was a scientific standard for “safe”. This is nothing but a liberal’s idea and to them no gun is “safe”.


37 posted on 01/17/2008 3:44:43 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: Manly Warrior

“Yes, I carry virtually from the moment I arise to the moment I lay down. I’d guess the only time I violate my rule is when I am in the shower and the holstered, loaded firearm is on the commode seat...”

Well - there are some right pretty stainless steel handguns looking for a good owner. Ever think of adopting one?

:-)


38 posted on 01/17/2008 3:47:28 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: mattstat

The correct storage location for the rifle is over the door so you and the bigger kids can grab it on the way out. This is how it was done during the winning of the West and there are still wolves and grizzlies out there.


39 posted on 01/17/2008 3:49:34 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: RightWhale

I liked the reply a Freeper posted on a previous thread answering a health providers invasive questions.

We just spread the guns and ammo on the floor and the first kid that matches the correct ammo to the correct gun gets to shoot someone.


40 posted on 01/17/2008 4:03:29 PM PST by Cold Heart
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