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Romney Seeks Momentum in South Carolina
NPR.org ^ | 1/16/2008 | All Things Considered

Posted on 01/17/2008 5:27:36 AM PST by tortdog

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who won the primary in Michigan on Tuesday, faces a far tougher challenge this weekend, at Saturday's primary in South Carolina. The former Massachusetts governor is among the candidates turning their attention to the Palmetto State, where the GOP race is wide open.

He is stressing a message of economic optimism.

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NPR challenges Mitt on his proposal to invest in new energy technology, demanding to know where the money is going to come from. And it hits him saying that he will have to raise taxes or cut programs that will hurt Americans.

Romney does not duck, answers the challenge convincingly, and persuaded me that he is the best man to lead America through the economic challenges for the next four years. Excellent interview. A must hear.

1 posted on 01/17/2008 5:27:38 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog

I think if there’s one lesson from both parties’ primaries/caucuses so far, it’s that nobody who wins gets momentum for the next contest.


2 posted on 01/17/2008 5:33:43 AM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: tortdog

Romney is a fraud.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 5:34:23 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: Numbers Guy

I think Romney has a very long road ahead of him. Being in Texas, my vote might actually count this year. I still have serious reservations due to the anti-Mormon vote out there. Not sure a Mormon can win a national election.


4 posted on 01/17/2008 5:35:39 AM PST by tortdog
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To: jdm

I fail to see how you can listen to that interview and state that.


5 posted on 01/17/2008 5:36:13 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog

Breaking News???


6 posted on 01/17/2008 5:36:21 AM PST by waimea.man
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To: tortdog; Admin Moderator

Breaking News?


7 posted on 01/17/2008 5:38:40 AM PST by mmichaels1970 ("all of a sudden it was clear he was the one” - Mr. Berenberk)
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To: waimea.man

Maybe I don’t understand what that topic is for. Since this was released just last night, I thought so. My apologies if I err.


8 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:13 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
I still have serious reservations due to the anti-Mormon vote out there. Not sure a Mormon can win a national election.

If he's a Mormon like he's a conservative he should be okay.

9 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:19 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: tortdog

Why is Fred Thompson truly not doing better in the polls in South Carolina?


10 posted on 01/17/2008 5:41:10 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: tortdog

I don’t need to listen to it. I already listened to Romney’s never ending series of ridiculous, shameless flip-flops the past two or three years. That was plenty.


11 posted on 01/17/2008 5:41:24 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Two words: Media Manipulation.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 5:43:20 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

ROTFLMAO!!!!!


13 posted on 01/17/2008 5:43:54 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: tortdog

Romney has enough cash to go negative against McCain effectively and I don’t think he can count on the others to do it. I’m all for it because it’s the right thing to do, it helps my guy, Thompson, as well as Romney, hurts RINO McCain, and from Romney’s perspective keeps the McCain delegate count down.


14 posted on 01/17/2008 5:44:13 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: Numbers Guy
I think if there’s one lesson from both parties’ primaries/caucuses so far, it’s that nobody who wins gets momentum for the next contest.

And Romney will not win South Carolina (which the author of this piece almost certainly knows). Romney doesn't think he'll win South Carolina. So I'm not sure of the point of the piece other than someone had a blank space in the newspaper and they gave someone else a deadline to fill it.

15 posted on 01/17/2008 5:45:12 AM PST by the808bass
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To: jdm

Who do want to see come out of the primary for the Republicans, Thompson?

If so, who is your second (more realistic) choice?


16 posted on 01/17/2008 5:45:19 AM PST by Rumierules
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

ROTFLMAO!!!!!


17 posted on 01/17/2008 5:45:34 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

There’s a lot of competition. Every candidate has a core group.

McCain = veterans, military
Huck = Christian evangelicals
Romney = businessmen, professionals

I am not sure what is Fred’s core group, so I’ll accept whatever you say it is.


18 posted on 01/17/2008 5:45:51 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: tortdog

liberal media starting to promote Romney as he would get crushed in national election.


19 posted on 01/17/2008 5:46:11 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Thompson gained two points today in the Rueters/Zogby poll, which is good movement. Continued movement by Saturday could yield him a second place since Huckabee is also losing. Let’s hope the polling is as screwed up as it was in New Hampshire and McCain’s lead is bogus.


20 posted on 01/17/2008 5:47:22 AM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: Rumierules
Who do want to see come out of the primary for the Republicans, Thompson?

Yes.

If so, who is your second (more realistic) choice?

There is no second choice.
21 posted on 01/17/2008 5:47:30 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: jdm

Two words: Media Manipulation

They love Fred since the debate. He is on every show, everyday, practically every hour. He is getting max air time which should help him in South Carolina. If he loses, he can’t blame media this time. They are helping him out big time. He has been on every talk show there is.


22 posted on 01/17/2008 5:48:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: FreedomProtector

I read Ann Coulter’s new article this morning. She’s coming out in favor of Romney. Go figure.


23 posted on 01/17/2008 5:49:35 AM PST by redlocks322
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To: tortdog
Romney could win in Nevada, and end up winning the most delegates on Saturday, overall.

ARG has him up by 7% over McCain: Rudy and Huck are fading.

24 posted on 01/17/2008 5:49:58 AM PST by period end of story (Oh life, it's bigger, it's bigger than you.)
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To: Rumierules

Check out this thread. FRed08 is whooping the others in web traffic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953779/posts


25 posted on 01/17/2008 5:50:45 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: redlocks322
I read Ann Coulter’s new article this morning. She’s coming out in favor of Romney. Go figure.

She knows a winner when she sees one.

26 posted on 01/17/2008 5:51:03 AM PST by period end of story (Oh life, it's bigger, it's bigger than you.)
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To: FreedomProtector
liberal media starting to promote Romney as he would get crushed in national election.

He will beat Hillary.

27 posted on 01/17/2008 5:53:03 AM PST by period end of story (Oh life, it's bigger, it's bigger than you.)
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To: jdm

Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College


28 posted on 01/17/2008 5:53:41 AM PST by tortdog
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To: the808bass

I think that Romney is in South Carolina because:

(i) he will win Nevada (more delegates than SC by far but not the media exposure for the GOP);

(ii) he wants to have a decent showing in SC since it will give him delegates and prevents suggestions that Michigan was a fluke; and

(iii) its proximity to Florida.


29 posted on 01/17/2008 5:55:53 AM PST by tortdog
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To: FreedomProtector

I don’t think that you listened to the interview or read the article. NPR was attacking Romney on several fronts.

Romney 1 - NPR 0


30 posted on 01/17/2008 5:56:55 AM PST by tortdog
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To: period end of story

Sure, even if you don’t count NV, even if McCain took all 24 delegates in SC, which is highly unlikely, Romney will still lead McCain. If Huck took all 24 delegates, then I think Huck will lead Mitt by several delegates. Thank goodness, McCain and Huck, and hopefully Mitt, will dilute the delegates awarded on Saturday. So most likely, even if Mitt doesn’t win delegates, if both Huck and McCain do well, Mitt will still lead in delegates. Counting NV, which Mitt could win big, Mitt will again have the substantial lead in delegates. So most likely, Mitt will have a substantial lead in delegates going into FL. The key was that Mitt was the only candidate who achieved a top 2 spot in the first 4 contests.


31 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:09 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: tortdog
I think that Romney is in South Carolina because...

I think you're right on all those. I don't think it's bad for him to be in South Carolina, I just think the article is a straw man (not intended to help Romney). "Well, he was looking for momentum, but he came in 3rd." When in reality 3rd wouldn't be a bad finish for him in South Carolina.

32 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:28 AM PST by the808bass
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To: tortdog

Mitt has mormentum.

33 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:44 AM PST by yellowhammer ( Mitt Romney '08)
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To: Romneyfor President2008

The huge military vote will give the state to McCain. Romney doesn’t expect to do well in SC. Evangelicals there are just like my pastor who rails against Mormons. Makes me want to change churches.


34 posted on 01/17/2008 5:58:11 AM PST by Hattie
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To: tortdog

” I still have serious reservations due to the anti-Mormon vote out there.”

And the anti-liberal vote out there as well.


35 posted on 01/17/2008 5:58:48 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Rumierules
If so, who is your second (more realistic) choice?

Who do you want to win the Presidency in 2008? If Romney, who is your second (more realistic) choice?

Dang, this is funner than I thought!

36 posted on 01/17/2008 5:58:51 AM PST by the808bass
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To: Hattie

Nice to hear your view on that. I’ve often wondered about churches that rail on other faiths how they are doing such a great job that they do not need to concentrate on their own flock as opposed to attacking the flock next door.


37 posted on 01/17/2008 6:00:43 AM PST by tortdog
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To: jdm

The Left said the same thing about Reagan, and the current President Bush.

Romney might not be your choice, but he’s not a ‘fraud’.


38 posted on 01/17/2008 6:00:57 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: Romneyfor President2008
I am not sure what is Fred’s core group, so I’ll accept whatever you say it is.

Where I come from, they're called conservatives.

39 posted on 01/17/2008 6:01:13 AM PST by the808bass
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To: napscoordinator
They love Fred since the debate. He is on every show, everyday, practically every hour. He is getting max air time which should help him in South Carolina. If he loses, he can’t blame media this time. They are helping him out big time. He has been on every talk show there is.

If Fred can't muster a very strong showing in SC, it can't be blamed on anything but his own image/shortcomings as a candidate. He says all the right things, but he must be able to draw votes.

40 posted on 01/17/2008 6:02:03 AM PST by CASchack
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To: Romneyfor President2008

McCain = veterans, military
Huck = Christian evangelicals
Romney = businessmen, professionals

I am not sure what is Fred’s core group, so I’ll accept whatever you say it is.

Romney is the best suited to bring those divergent groups together in the end.

Its what businessmen do to get things done,.


41 posted on 01/17/2008 6:02:25 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: redlocks322

‘I read Ann Coulter’s new article this morning. She’s coming out in favor of Romney. Go figure’

Its not surprising. He’s the front runner, has the cash.


42 posted on 01/17/2008 6:03:08 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: tortdog

I think that Romney is in South Carolina because:

(i) he will win Nevada (more delegates than SC by far but not the media exposure for the GOP);

(ii) he wants to have a decent showing in SC since it will give him delegates and prevents suggestions that Michigan was a fluke; and

(iii) its proximity to Florida.

Exactly. He finishes third in SC or better, its a win under the circumstances, and if he wins Nevada, he has a commanding lead in the delegate count.


43 posted on 01/17/2008 6:04:12 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: CASchack

I am from SC. Thompson is doing poorly in the polls mainly b/c he is seemingly sluggish and he got started too late. On top of that, his comments about him not taking his election bid seriously have hurt him. People in SC are warming to Romney quickly.


44 posted on 01/17/2008 6:05:35 AM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: Badeye
Its what businessmen do to get things done.

And he's a WINNER. In time they shall all see the light.

45 posted on 01/17/2008 6:07:08 AM PST by period end of story (Oh life, it's bigger, it's bigger than you.)
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To: Hattie

‘The huge military vote will give the state to McCain.’

That theory was disproved in 2000, and I strongly suspect it will happen again this time around.

Retired military like tax cuts. McCain voted against them. Retired military like secure borders (obviously) McCain voted against THAT as well, and whats worse offered Amnesty to those that broke into our country - another thing military types take a dim view on.

McCain has a ‘base’ made up of the MSM, Dems that like to play games in GOP primaries, and those weak minded folks that can’t choose between either party til sixty seconds before they begin punching holes in ballots.

Thats it.


46 posted on 01/17/2008 6:07:17 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: period end of story

Yep.

Romney/Thompson would be a tough ticket for the Dems to beat, no matter who is on their ticket.


47 posted on 01/17/2008 6:08:15 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: conservativeinferno

No way Romney wins in SC. IF Romney does win, then this race is over.

But it won’t happen.


48 posted on 01/17/2008 6:08:53 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
He advocates increasing federal investments in energy

Investments, Liberal Speak

To pay for these investments, Romney says he will "dramatically" reduce the amount of discretionary nonmilitary funds.

In June 2007 he says, http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/06/16/romney-increase-the-size-of-military/ June 16, 2007 Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Saturday that if he's elected, he wants "to carry the big stick" by increasing the size of the nation's military. The former Massachusetts governor said his plans include boosting the size of the military by at least 100,000 troops and increasing the military budget.

So which is it Mitt?

49 posted on 01/17/2008 6:09:46 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Hattie
Are Democrats and Indies allowed to vote in the Republican Primary as they were in Iowa, New Hampshire and Michigan? Is that being factored into the South Carolina polls? The fact that McCain did so well among Democrats in the previous open primary/caucus states makes one wonder: (1)would they reallt vote for him in a general election? or (2)are they trying to select the weakest possible opponent?

Ann Coulter's column was a real eye opener, but I'm still pulling for Fred in SC because I'd like to see the McCain-Huckabee tag team out of the race more than anything.

50 posted on 01/17/2008 6:11:25 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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